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Applications / Re: XWP v1.0.12 Beta 1
« on: December 24, 2017, 01:40:11 pm »
I have attached a new transparent boot logo. See what you think.  This is far more advanced than the others I have uploaded. This has been a learning experience.

Applications / Re: XWP v1.0.12 Beta 1
« on: December 23, 2017, 05:53:31 pm »
I played around with making XWP Boot Logos and have them attached to this post.  I learned quite a bit.

First, transparency does not work for all logos.  As a result, special care must be taken when making the bitmap logo.

Second, as near as I can tell, there is no size limitation on the bitmap.

Third, both Windows and Os/2 bitmaps can be used.

What looks good as a transparency may not look good as a blow up and vise versa.

These logos are named beginning with a BU_ for Blow-up or T_ for transparency.  The transparent ones also have green borders for easy identification when selecting. 


I had to reupload it again.  I found one bitmap that sneaked by my quick testing.

Multimedia / Re: Saving OS/2 icons - OS/2 icon format in 2017
« on: December 21, 2017, 02:40:44 am »
One other problem, when icons are embedded in an application, is that hi-colour icons get corrupted if fed through lxlite. With Mozilla, we had to switch to 8 colour icons IIRC when we switched to linking with wlink and using lxlite to strip/compress the binaries.


You don't use bitmaps for the embedded graphics?  I know programs like FM/2 and Filstar 2 use embedded bmps.

Applications / Re: XWP v1.0.12 Beta 1
« on: December 20, 2017, 11:41:53 pm »
I created some new XWP logos a few years back.  When I have time I will upload them and see what people think. 


Multimedia / Re: Saving OS/2 icons - OS/2 icon format in 2017
« on: December 20, 2017, 11:35:08 pm »
The picture
I cannot see any reason to use  24bit/Pixel for 16x16 sized icons? And for 80% of 20x20 sized icons it would be questionable.

It depends on the intended audience. For desktop usage OS/2 2.x recommends 5 different units (covered by the mentioned Icon Editor) and OS/2 Warp adds 2 additional units. It should follow the CUA style guide. It doesn't differ much from Mac, Motif or Windows.

The problem occurs when the picture is pasted to the 16x16 and 20x20.  If that color is not in the palette, some off the wall color or colors are used.  Using 24bit, icon editor has no problem rendering the correct color(s).   However, you are correct in that it might much simplier to make the smaller icons with few colors.

Multimedia / Re: Saving OS/2 icons - OS/2 icon format in 2017
« on: December 20, 2017, 10:22:23 pm »

I created these icons anywhere from 4 to 7 years ago.  I haven't really done anything since until I started messing with a new xcenter shadow icon. The package itself is assorted.  Quite a few are strictly my design.  Some were created by me cropping something from an advertisement I liked, pasting, and modifying it to something that looked presentable under OS/2. Some are based on free PNGs.  Just about all have been modified, added to, or enhanced to make it work as an OS/2 icon.  I have hundreds I created for the eComstation eschemes.  eSchemes doesn't work under ArcaOS.   Anything I have always done is free for everyone and they can use, modify and enhance them anyway they want which makes things less complicated,

Multimedia / Re: Saving OS/2 icons - OS/2 icon format in 2017
« on: December 20, 2017, 06:36:11 pm »
I have attached a zip file containing a few of the icons I have created using this template in the past.  Enjoy. 


Multimedia / Re: Saving OS/2 icons - OS/2 icon format in 2017
« on: December 20, 2017, 06:48:52 am »
The picture

Multimedia / Re: Saving OS/2 icons - OS/2 icon format in 2017
« on: December 20, 2017, 06:47:44 am »
I am no expert.  Everything I know is from my experience and trial and error.

To start, you need to create a good template.  I have attached a folder icon that I use for a template.  I believe someone far more knowledgeable than me created it.  I have attached a picture of the settings and icon sizes.  Each OS/2 icon can contain multiple size icons and each used for different display resolutions.  If done in one size, the operating system will try to do its best to render it in the size required for the display setting.  Hi resolutions use 40x40 and 20x20 icons.  The lower display settings such as 600x800 use the 32x32 and 16x16 icons.  I believe OS/2 can render in 64x64, however, I am not sure when the operating system would utilize it. It can be deleted from the grouping.

Using this template, the picture copied is pasted and rendered as it should be.   Any white or light grey edges will be rendered white when displayed by the operating system.  If you don't want a white edge, these pixels will need to be deleted or darkened.

I have found that PMView does the best job rendering 64x64 pngs to smaller sizes before copying to the icon editor.

I use PMView to a resize a 64x64 to 32x32 and then copy it the the 32x32 icon setting in the icon editor.  I do this for each size.

As you can see, doing and icon is a lot of work. I wish the icon editor could do 1/2 pixels. This would eliminate the rough edges that are found in OS/2 icons.

Remember, I am no expert.  I could have some of my facts wrong.  Feel free to correct me.


Applications / Re: XWP v1.0.12 Beta 1
« on: December 18, 2017, 07:39:01 am »
Okay Alfredo, this last icon I have uploaded is probably closer to what you would like to see. 

I just did a few more of these icons and re-uploaded the zip. 

Applications / Re: XWP v1.0.12 Beta 1
« on: December 17, 2017, 09:12:11 pm »
Its is good to be back.

I tried some arrows.  Chains are no good.  The icon sizes are just too small.  I also played around with other ideas.
I have attached and zipped. them.  I also did a smiley face just for fun. Anyone can modify them if they want.  These are for anyone that wants them.

Applications / Re: XWP v1.0.12 Beta 1
« on: December 17, 2017, 12:13:56 am »
I never have cared for the shadow icon used by XWP to designate Shadow icons.  True, in ArcaOS and earlier, the shadow text could be designated a different color.  Sometimes it is hard to find the right color for the desktop being used.  XWP solves this problem by inserting an icon like Windows does.

I decided to play around and came up with a few alternatives.  Just rename the original shadow icon in the WARP4 theme directory.  Unzip the attached zipped shadow icons into the WARP4 directory. One is already named shadow.ico.  if you don't like it, select another and rename it shadow.ico.  Enable shadow icon and restart the WPS.  Maybe there is one someone will like.

These were done on a small screen notebook.  As a result, I don't know how they look on a large screen.

David Graser

Applications / Re: Software Reports
« on: December 13, 2017, 04:22:56 am »
True, the programs that come with ArcaOS work as expected.  My hats off to the develop and testing teams. They did a great job ensuring that everything works as it should.

True, FM/2 can do anything under the sun.   So can ArcaOS.  Using this reasoning, should I quit using ArcaOS because the operating system itself is so powerful.   I am not going to stop using it because it can do so much more than Windows, MacOS, and Linux.  In my opinion, each compliments the another.  With the multidesktop feature, I can open FM/2 up on each desktop and work and move between the desktops doing various file management.   Truth be told, when everyone was leaving OS/2 for Windows, this one program kept me from leaving.

XIT works OK with XWP.  The key is to disable any overlapping features in XIT.  I primarily use it for some of the additional button features it has.  I like the additional buttons such as Refresh, Roll up/down, open and move to the parent folder, and taskbar button.

I did not know about the RAM disk that comes with ArcaOS.  Thanks for the tip.

Why would I use a program like KillFold.  It makes it easy to close a bunch of open folders with just one mouse cllick. 

PMView is definitely a nice graphics viewer.

As for WPSec, it allows individuals to use your computer and desktop while locking them out of important key areas of your desktop.  And true, nothing is ever absolutely secure.

Applications / Re: Software Reports
« on: December 12, 2017, 11:06:57 pm »
What programs work well with ArcaOS.

XIT 2.6 - More desktop fluff- like the scroll and move back to parent folder buttons.
WPSec 2.15  - what a great desktop security program

FileStar 2  - These are 2 of the most powerful file managers on the planet

Smalled 2.0.  One of the best editors I have come across
Pastry 1.06 - a good program for picking and choosing what is copied to the clipboard

XfDisk 5.0  - if one needs a virtual floppy for install of some older programs
Ramdisk- if one wants a RAM disk
KillFold-fix - Closes all open folders  - use as a widget in the XCenter
PMdll - a good program for checking exe/dll breakage

PM123 1.37 - a good music program
PMView 3.79 - version now handles transparent images

Applications / Re: XWP v1.0.12 Beta 1
« on: December 12, 2017, 10:42:48 pm »
Hi Rich

I just want to say thank you for XWP continued development.  All the fixes have been greatly appreciated.


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