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Utilities / Re: architecture/substitute of cmd.exe ?
« on: October 01, 2018, 03:47:49 pm »
IMHO it's easier to take 4os2 sources and add and additional pm to overcomes the 8k character restriction. That's what TakeCommander did but unfortunately we do not have the sources. Some left overs are still in place though. In fact I started this with my 4os2 sources. I think it's easier to add a pm window to 4os2 than adding all the commands to an existing pm program like ME. Of course I'm biased ;)

Anyway the restrictions are the same. You have to redirect (or dup) stdin/stdout/stderr which makes the whole thing even more incompatible to standard cmd.exe. Regardless if you take 4os2 or your editor as base. Remember people even complain about 4os2 to cmd compatibility although it's nearly perfect.

For me Jonathan Pollards cmd replacement is useless cause we do not have the sources. And as I understand he is not willing to open source it. Beside that I did not found any good reason why I should learn his different syntax.

Beside JPs cmd replacement there are build in cmd shells (sort of) in VisualSlickEdit, NEDPM, LarsenCommander, ...? At least the VS implementation overcomes the 8k character limit. But it does not support ANSI colors. And I guess does have some resource problems (using it much for huge compile tasks makes it slow). And we do not have sources too. Maybe the NEDPM implementation is better. Hope aschn will comment on that here.

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Multimedia / Re: [SBAWED2] Getting an old audio card working.
« on: September 21, 2018, 03:04:53 pm »
I think they only do not provide new/refreshed drivers for ISA cards and they do not spend time in supporting questions about. That makes sense to me cause if you're still using such ancient system with ISA cards you probably run an older version of OS/2 anyway. You need ArcaOS mainly for new hardware which requires ACPI and AHCI. Such systems do not provide ISA slots since many years.

AFAIK there is no OS driver needed to support ISA cards. So there is nothing to left out. You got the drivers for your old ISA card anyway when you bought them. And if the card ever worked with OS/2 on a specific system, I'm pretty sure it will do the same with ArcaOS.

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and it is used for connecting to "legacy" hardware such as health monitoring chips on modern motherboards.
I do not know a single health sensor which is connected via ISA. They are usually on the SMI (I²C) or integrated in some chipset. Managed by PCI registers or older ones by legacy port I/O. So you need a driver which knows the commands for the sensor and the I/O port where it is connected. But that's not ISA.

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Multimedia / Re: [SBAWED2] Getting an old audio card working.
« on: September 21, 2018, 01:54:50 pm »
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What has changed sine then is that Arca Noae has removed ISA support from their system...
What do you mean by that? What specifically was removed?


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General Discussion / Re: Open Source / 2
« on: September 20, 2018, 04:01:16 pm »
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That API is huge, probably 50x more complex than it needs to be.
Needs to be for what? I'm pretty sure the complexity isn't there for it's own sake. Maybe you only didn't understand fully for what it's good for?

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Something that is very PM in nature and function, but doesn't include the full API?
IMHO then it's no PM. It's another graphic engine with limited functionality. Zero applications and no GUI. Or do you think WPS and SOM runs on your lightweight version? What is the benefit compared to our working PM. I fore myself hardly see any need for such thing.

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Applications / Re: SmartGit - Problem with File Mode (Modified (File Mode))
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:43:38 am »
I've read somewhere about 'core.autocrlf' setting 'true' is recommended for Win. Would this be a better option then fileMode? Or does it not work for us?

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Networking / Re: Test build wpa_supplicant v2.7
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:04:15 am »
Thank you Dave.

Maybe start of the thread is to far away now ;)

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Applications / Re: SmartGit - Problem with File Mode (Modified (File Mode))
« on: September 16, 2018, 08:25:03 pm »
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git config core.fileMode false
Thanks. Just tested. It seems to work only for the current project tree which is fine. So I can use it for a few projects leaving the others untouched.

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Java1.6 is 2.1.8a TTBOMK? You run this on OS/2-eCS or ArcaOS?
Running on eCS (heavily updated) is no big problem. Using here occasionally since years. But no newer version :(


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Applications / SmartGit - Problem with File Mode (Modified (File Mode))
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:22:08 am »
I'm using SmartGit now more often and there's an annoying problem I have. Our last version which runs with Java1.6 is 2.1.8a TTBOMK. I use it with a few GIT servers and the problem is, in the file panel it shows a lot of files as changed although they are not. Under Working Tree State it says 'Modified (File Mode)'. This is even after a fresh pull.

I've searched all options but did not find any to disable this for file compare. Anyone knows an external file compare utility which works with SmartGit and does no show this File Mode changes? Any hints?


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Setup & Installation / Re: New to ArcaOS, need some help.
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:00:54 am »
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After some testing it turned out the DFSee I got from the official page (15.3) might be having bugs with creating logical paritions.
I fear the problem is that everything running under OS/2 does see disks sometimes a bit different than looking at it from f.i. FreeDOS or Linux. That's why lot of people suggest doing all partitioning with DFSee running under OS/2 (booting from ArcaOS stick and running from the installer is fine).

Otherwise Jan would fix the problem immediately if there's really a bug in it. But he needs to know about. DFSee usually logs all activities and Jan is quit responsive when you discuss this at the DFSee support list or AN issue tracker.

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Networking / Re: Test build wpa_supplicant v2.7
« on: September 15, 2018, 11:04:45 pm »
I've uploaded a new testbuild. It includes latest changes from official development tree. I've updated some old OS/2 source files to current level where possible too. Some new options in wpa_supplicant.conf are enabled (the ones which does not stop compiling).

If you have pmprintf.dll on your system then the debug messages are routed there too. The output maybe better readable in the PM window than in the VIO.

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Setup & Installation / Re: New to ArcaOS, need some help.
« on: September 13, 2018, 09:22:25 pm »
I'm glad to hear you master DFSee :). A lot of people complain about it's complexity.

I guess you've read the information which comes with ArcaOS. I'm pretty sure there are places where it deals with different scenarios and how to prepare partitions for multi OS environment. This all should be manageable within the ArcaOS installer. Remember it includes a stripped down version of DFSee with a graphic GUI to hide the complexity. That said I guess it should not be necessary to use the standard DFSee boot USB-Stick, CD or floppy. Although there is nothing wrong in using the full version of DFSee (I personally prefer doing so) the makers of ArcaOS tries to handle such things with their installer in a user friendly way (sort of ;) ).

To get to the point - if you follow the AcraOS documentation and still can not install then open a ticket with AN. I'm pretty sure they are interested in improving the installer and partitioning GUI. Most of the testers are long time OS/2 users and they know the workarounds and tricks to get it installed. It seems to me you're a perfect candidate for a good usability tester. Not with the straitened vision we long time users have.

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General Discussion / Re: Problems booting ArcaOS
« on: August 17, 2018, 09:49:29 am »
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Tell me that when os2ahci actually sees and works with the ASMedia ahci chips.  ...
I do not see any evidence that this thread is about shortcomings of ASMedia chips before this post of you. I didn't talk about problems with your chip nor os2ahci may having problems with your board. Or more likely ACPI shutdown may not work correct on your system. I think I've clearly quoted what I'm talking about.

Believe it or not, wear leveling is the job of the SSD controller.

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General Discussion / Re: Problems booting ArcaOS
« on: August 16, 2018, 03:03:14 pm »
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wear levelling
Does make every SSD by itself since ages. Even CF-cards does it since the beginning. Only SD-Cards and maybe USB-Sticks don't do it. So no problem with any SSD.

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trim
We do not have such utility. But as said before, not really necessary since years. If you really like you can create a new partition and copy over data every 5 years or so if you feel better, but....

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flushing the delay write cache
AFAIK the command is implemented in the driver since many years. Probably since the beginning of os2ahci. There are some comments about in xwp shutdown code from some experts which let me believe that such issues were addressed since many years. 2009 or so.

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In the end you end up with some cells that are over worked and don't retain their status as long as they should.
Hard to believe as the whole wear leveling stuff is the job of the controller on the drive. It's not influenced by any OS or OS driver. Of course there are differences in quality, reliability and durability as with all other electronic components. Pick a trusty manufacturer and you hardly can damage it with OS/2 usage patterns. Which does not mean there will never be a failure. If you are the one in millions ....

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Applications / Re: VirtualBox v5.0.51 Testing
« on: August 05, 2018, 12:12:16 pm »
> It seems "enable VT-x / AMD-V" are enabled by default in the settings. I was not sure about that previously in my posts to Valery in the thread "VirtualBox Problems" as the original VM I had created (Windows XP) was done under Windows 7 and Windows VirtualBox v5.0.22, so I wasn't sure if I had fiddled with the settings at some point.

No, I just created the new VM from scratch, VT-x/AMD-V is disabled. In any case, disable it if it enabled, for some weird reason (unless you have one of the latest OS/4 kernels).
I came over this again as I set up a new VM with a FreeBSD image. VT-x/AMD-V was enabled here. This is with v5.0.6_OSEr143. A slightly newer version as the official linked at http://trac.netlabs.org/vbox/wiki.

I know this thread is about v5.0.51 but I think VBOX for OS/2 lacks some update on the official wiki page (and the included readme). Although I'm running some VMs inside VBOX I didn't remember the proper settings anymore. Valery please update the wiki page. Especially the necessary/recommended settings for VT-x, IO-APIC, PAE/NX, preferred network mode (which one works reliable), best network adapter setting (I read somewhere some Intel server card should be choosen), ... Of course settings for ArcaOS/eCS are needed. Special instructions for unofficial kernels may need an own paragraph. It's really hard to read all postings to find them out. At least a link at http://trac.netlabs.org/vbox/wiki to the current (updated) readme would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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General Discussion / Re: IBM DDK License Discussion
« on: August 03, 2018, 09:42:27 am »
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How can I prove that I am a legal DDK user if  some body asks ?
Who do you think will ask? You wouldn't have your copy if you did not have 'Agree'ed back then when you downloaded it like I did. I know I had to click 'Agree' at the bottom of a long text before I got to the page where I could download the files. In theory IBM may have recorded my IP but I think no one will and can trace back which IP the company used about 15 years ago when I downloaded it. Maybe I had to register with an email address but I don't know anymore.

You do not have to prove that you do nothing illegal. It's the other way around - you are not guilty until someone proves you are. That's the way the justice works in civilized countries (of course we know some arguments from some people are taken more serious than others but that's hardly related here).

Anyway you're restricted to the license you 'Agree'ed independently if you still remember the wording. I don't. But I'm pretty sure it does not allow me to share copies of the sources but I can build my own drivers with them and share the binaries. The sources include -
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/*    You may use this code in accordance with the IBM License      */
/*    Agreement provided in the IBM Developer Connection Device Driver       */
So if I ever would share my sourced build upon the DDK I would have to search for that.

Btw. my copy does not include a license other then the note above.

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