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Applications / Re: Problems with lsusb and usb.ids
« on: August 30, 2018, 06:11:16 pm »
Hi Dariusz,

I doubt that the usb.ids file is the problem, the latest one works with USBRES.EXE and gives more details about some of my connected usb devices.

The last time I used lsusb it required the usb.ids to be in a specific directory - the dir was hard coded into it. This was in 2013 so things may have changed

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General Discussion / Re: Problems booting ArcaOS
« on: August 19, 2018, 07:27:55 pm »
A couple of links to SSD information.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device
How to Damage a FLASH Storage Device


https://lwn.net/Articles/428584/
Optimizing Linux with cheap flash drives

Before anyone says that they are old, all the information I have been able to find from manufacturers is that most of that information still applies today especially with multi layer flash devices.

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Applications / Re: Problems with lsusb and usb.ids
« on: August 19, 2018, 12:30:44 am »
Paul

+10

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General Discussion / Re: Problems booting ArcaOS
« on: August 16, 2018, 08:37:41 pm »
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    flushing the delay write cache

AFAIK the command is implemented in the driver since many years. Probably since the beginning of os2ahci. There are some comments about in xwp shutdown code from some experts which let me believe that such issues were addressed since many years. 2009 or so.

Tell me that when os2ahci actually sees and works with the ASMedia ahci chips.  At the moment I have several boards that have 6 or more sata sockets but only 2 of them are usable the other 4 are connected to ASMedia chips.

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General Discussion / Re: Problems booting ArcaOS
« on: August 16, 2018, 01:07:57 pm »
Hi Roderick,

That is part of it the other part is not flushing the delay write cache.  In the end you end up with some cells that are over worked and don't retain their status as long as they should.

Yes, some drives will fail completely usually as a result of the controller having component failure. 

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General Discussion / Re: Problems booting ArcaOS
« on: August 16, 2018, 12:12:39 am »
Hi Pete,

I think that all the SSDs have the ability to control wear levelling built into the firmware.  The very expensive ones have a triggering mechanism also built in while the budget ones rely on the driver to supply the trigger information - at least that is what a friend said was necessary on his Linux box with the SSD. He had to add a switch to the ahci driver during the mount operation.

I have started to standardise on Seagate FireCuda drives for my OS/2 boxes. It helps boot times with the built in SSD and the firmware is intelegent enough to make sure everything works as it should. Not as fast as a pure SSD but fast enough - works well with my RYZEN processor based motherboards but we need USB 3.0 and 3.1 drivers to make modern boards useful - I have had to turn one RYZEN box over to Zorin OS because of lack of USB drivers, only USB mouse and keyboard ports.     

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General Discussion / Re: Problems booting ArcaOS
« on: August 15, 2018, 08:36:51 pm »
Hi Pete,

the Attribute 198 is the Uncorrectable Sector Count (which on a spinning rust disk is saying there are no more spare sectors to recover data to).

198  Uncorrectable Sector Count

The total number of uncorrectable errors when reading/writing a
sector. A rise in the value of this attribute indicates defects of the
disk surface and/or problems in the mechanical subsystem. (or Off-Line
Scan Uncorrectable Sector Count - Fujitsu)


I think you have hit the problem of SSDs on our platform - no way of controlling the wear levelling that is necessary to prevent over use of some cells.


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General Discussion / Re: Problems booting ArcaOS
« on: August 15, 2018, 02:51:36 pm »
Hi Pete,

Download the hard disk manufacturers disk test utilities and run them against the HD.  If there is a HD problem this should indicate what and where it is - at least the various disk tools that I have do.

If it is a sector going bad you should be able to move the data on that sector to a spare sector and mark the sector as bad. I just wish we had a SMART monitor that worked with ArcaOS because the SMART output would also indicate problems - example, number of relocated sectors.

Edit to add. 
Since you have eCS on the same disk the SmartMon from that should work assuming you have SMART enabled for the disk.

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Utilities / Re: WCD broken when running against JFS???
« on: August 06, 2018, 01:34:18 am »
This is actually the bigger goal on my part. The older AMD Phenom X6 II hardware I'm currently on has been a great setup, but it's showing it's age. Ryzen II is my next stopping point. I've been closely watching the feedback on these (such as yours) and will probably build a completely new hardware platform when I'm ready to try OS/2 on that new stuff. What I have today (the migration from HDD to SSD) is really a mid-point, although there is no denying that the speed increase from SSD is considerable and well worth the investment in $$$ and time. Heck, the SSD prices have come down significantly anyways, so a suggestion I would make to anyone still running HDD on our platform is to look at what SSDs have to offer.

The two stumbling blocks with getting OS/2 - ArcaOS working on modern (no more than 9 months old) AMD boards is total lack of USB 3.0/3.1 (xhci) drivers (that applies to Intel boards as well) and a modified OS2AHCI.ADD to allow working with the ASMedia AHCI chipset (the secondary AHCI interface on all Ryzen chipsets is based on the ASMedia chip).

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Utilities / Re: WCD broken when running against JFS???
« on: August 05, 2018, 07:07:51 pm »
Dariusz, I feel for you but I too wonder about the wisdom of putting everything on one JFS partition.  I learned years ago the consequences of doing that but fortunately I only had to reformat one partition and the backup was up to date.

When I first started using OS/2 (v2.1) one of the techies at the local IBM office advised me to use at least two partitions - one for the operating system and the other for programs and data - The reason he gave was that if a fixpak messed up the OS I could reinstall without touching the programs and data.

Over the years those two partitions have turned into 7 - OS (on a small HPFS), Tools, Programs, Work, Home (a concession to the ported programs), General (for things like mozprofiles etc.) and Store (where items are stored as it is generally quicker to get than going to one of the NAS boxes). Except for the OS partition they are all standard JFS partitions.

Lately I have been experimenting with AMD ITX boards with APU second gen A series and Ryzen processors. I have also decided to use FireCuda 2 Tb disks as standard.  With those disks the partitioning is setup using DFSee (disks plugged into a SATA/USB adapter).  I can then format them and copy what I need over. I do allow ArcaOS to format the OS partition as HPFS and copy files to the correct partitions, this is a continuation of what I did before with OS/2.

Why am I rattling on?  It might give you some ideas, it might help others as others have helped me in the past.  I will also add that doing it this way has cut down the recovery time after a total disk failure to half an hour (we made images of the basic data on the partitions).
 

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Internet / Re: Firefox - 45.9.0 for OS/2 GA1.1...anyone...anyone???
« on: August 05, 2018, 06:15:52 pm »
Hi Dariusz, If you don't mind me asking what printer are you using?

Here I have a couple of Brother colour postscript laser printers (DCP-9020cdw and HL-3170cdw).  Both work using the IBM postscript driver with the ppd files imported (they also work with the enhanced postscript driver by Alex Taylor) but let CUPS near them and very strange bad things happen.

The last big print job I did on the 9020 ran to nearly two full paper trays and that was double sided printing, via Lucide and didn't miss anything even with refilling the paper tray.

All of the above was from my OS/2 install.  I have had print errors when printing with Lucide on ArcaOS but put it down to the fact that CUPS is also installed there (had to fight to install any version of the postscript driver).  Now I am wondering if there might be a dll problem since it started after I let yum update everything as a test.

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Internet / Re: Firefox - 45.9.0 for OS/2 GA1.1...anyone...anyone???
« on: August 05, 2018, 04:58:44 pm »
I agree with Joop on the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. 

Your large PDF runs on Lucide 1.3.5 on my OS/2 install without any RPM/YUM junk. 

I also still use Dave's firefox 17.0.11 ESR although there are some https sites that no longer work with the old security certificates so I am now trying to get the later version of firefox to run without breaking the programs that I normally use - not an easy task as some of the new required dlls do NOT play nice with older programs.

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Internet / Re: Firefox - 45.9.0 for OS/2 GA1.1...anyone...anyone???
« on: July 23, 2018, 08:21:47 pm »
Thanks Dave for the information.  Now the fun begins trying to sort out which implementation of each dll is the one that works - I have found that libcx does not work with anything else unless I have the magic incantation loaded in config.sys.  Things should work better when they get the buildlevel info included -I can't help wondering who had the bright idea to try and convert OS/2 into SUSE linux and so create all the problems for all of us that have been using OS/2 from version 2.1. 

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Internet / Re: Firefox - 45.9.0 for OS/2 GA1.1...anyone...anyone???
« on: July 22, 2018, 02:12:25 pm »
Why oh why don't those porting firefox and other programs supply a zip file containing ALL the various DLLs that they use to have it working?  That way there shouldn't be the dll hell we appear to have with versions of RPM files from odd experimental repositories or even those not in any repository yet.

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Internet / Re: Security Certs
« on: July 19, 2018, 09:26:59 pm »
Thanks Dave, that was what I was afraid of.  Now I suppose I will have to experiment with one of the newer builds and see if I can find the magic incantation, or a zip file with all the necessary extraneous dlls that seem to be necessary with the newer builds. I suppose that is what retirement is for, though it would help if the maintainers put together a compliation of the actual dlls they use (not a list of rpms which may or may not work) to run their build.

In passing I must thank you for your 17.0.11 esr build that has worked so well for so long.

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