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Hardware / Re: OS/2 Video Performance
« on: October 24, 2021, 03:47:32 pm »

And on that very point, you started this thread with a specific assumption that SNAP would not be used, and so you arrived at some results that clearly put the 'Intel HDA Graphics' in the lead...but isn't that the VERY definition of BIAS???

I agree that HDA does well in SysBench DIVE measurements. I have run SNAP measurements for a long time, and unless the graphics card is 15 years old, they are never far from Panorama. For some systems, there are performance issues with SNAP, but the Arca Noae version seems to solve them. I've gotten used to all the goodies that come with Panorama, so I don't give SNAP much attention.

But if you do have one of those old graphics cards that support SNAP, I agree that things are pretty rosy. I used to sell only systems with SNAP graphics accelerated support. You can count me as a fan. But with systems that only have SNAP accelerated support, I'm going to assume Arca Noae version of SNAP will be about the same as Panorama.

Hardware / Re: OS/2 Video Performance
« on: October 23, 2021, 04:30:02 pm »
I think a lot of newer graphics stuff, Mozilla and QT, don't use PM for graphics. We could use a better benchmark.

Be careful of confirmation bias; where you have a card that has better PM graphics so that must be what is important. OS/2 programs are old, and I suspect that your old graphics card works just as well as newer HDA graphics, and that all that extra speed is wasted. My reason for starting this thread was to remove the obstacle of using old hardware to get good graphics performance. I wanted to make it easier for people to select a good graphics platform to run OS/2.

This is going to change again with ArcaOS 5.1, which will have some new graphics features to replace some BIOS functions that are no longer there.

Hardware / OS/2 Video Performance
« on: October 21, 2021, 01:47:28 am »
People ask me what video card to buy to run OS/2. I usually tell them to run the graphics built into the motherboard. For some time, Intel CPU have graphics built in. This is an inherently better design than having a separate video card.

I ran the SysBench benchmark program on my Quebopeep (Lenovo M93p Tower computer) with Intel Core-i7 CPU connected to the monitor with a standard VGA cable. I installed the standard AMD Radeon HD8490 PCIe-16 video card with 1 GB video RAM. The graphics card has no VGA, but I used a DisplayPort to VGA adapter to connect the monitor. Here is how the two graphics setups compared.

Intel HDA Graphics
PM Graphics Marks: 268
DIVE Marks: 18062

AMD Radeon HD8490
PM Graphics Marks: 127
DIVE Marks: 2917

So you can see that the high performance video card is between 2 and 6 times slower than the built-in graphics on the motherboard.

Setup & Installation / Re: YUM default platform setting
« on: October 19, 2021, 03:33:08 pm »
You have to upgrade carefully this time with yum. I'm waiting for instructions from Arca Noae or BitWise how to do it.

One of the upgrade steps changes your platform from i686 to pentium4.

Applications / Re: Otter Browser
« on: October 13, 2021, 05:03:43 am »
I think Otter is not really supported on Ubuntu. It does have a setting to remember passwords, and I was able to import bookmarks. I think those were my main requirements for moving on from Firefox. I hope most of the web applications suites run, particularly iCloud.

Applications / Otter Browser
« on: October 12, 2021, 09:40:57 pm »
I set up Otter Browser under Ubuntu, and I was able to import my bookmarks from Firefox. So far, so good.

Where I ran into trouble, though, was that I cannot visit any secure sites. Now Otter under Ubuntu is not the same as under ArcaOS, but I think the architecture of secure web browsing should be similar. Is anyone familiar enough with running applications under Ubuntu to help me get secure web browsing to work?

Here is the error: Warning: Otter Browser. SSL support is not available or incomplete. Some websites may work incorrectly or do not work at all.

I am not familiar enough with Ubuntu to correct this.

Applications / Re: Accelerated Installs
« on: October 08, 2021, 03:45:41 pm »
All of Blonde Guy computers have their software installed in this way. I wrote Suntan Special to do the job. I have over 700 objects I can install.

Mail-News / Thunderbird logging
« on: September 30, 2021, 04:40:06 am »
I saw a recommendation to use the following for logging thunderbird. I want to help someone track down a mail bug.

thunderbird.exe 2>&1 | tee thunderbird.log

I've got a feeling this is the wrong kind of log to debug mail sending/receiving.

Thunderbird has some help on logging by setting two environment variables, but I don't know if that works. It does work, but I don't know what all the options mean.

Rem Thunderbird debugging
Set NSPR_LOG_FILE=f:\var\temp\tbird_log.txt

I imagine this might be called transaction log or something like that.

Programming / Re: VSLICK - OS/2 Toolkit Support Package
« on: September 26, 2021, 03:47:56 pm »
Yes, that's it exactly. I ought to go back to my vslick notes and see what I did to make it function like an IDE. I was using CSet++ as my compiler then, and all I did was write some .cmd files for vslick to execute.

Programming / Re: VSLICK - OS/2 Toolkit Support Package
« on: September 26, 2021, 03:34:22 am »
I didn't know where to search, but I found a few in this thread, and this is a post containing a very light scheme. That said, I now realize that I like the default scheme pretty well. So don't go out of your way to get a white theme just for me.,324.msg9857.html#msg9857

Programming / Re: VSLICK - OS/2 Toolkit Support Package
« on: September 25, 2021, 03:39:17 pm »
I'd like to see a light theme to go with the dark theme.

I used to use vslick as my IDE, but it required some customization and it was never as good as Visual Studio. I used to configure a Windows machine to edit files in my OS/2 project in Visual Studio for analysis of a large project, then use vslick for coding, debugging, etc.

Now I mainly use gcc, so I'm interested in making that nicer.

Applications / Re: Running old OS/2 Software - Issues
« on: September 14, 2021, 03:30:19 pm »
I think any software from 1992 is 16-bit. Now it ought to run, but two things happened to Presentation Manager since 1992. First, the PMMERGE. I don't remember what the two libraries were that merged, but likely the software is linked against the old libraries. Running in the debugger might help.

The second change was between Warp 3 and Warp 4. I think changes made you initialize a PM program differently. It's a minor change, but without, there might well be a crash in PMMERGE. That's still a change that might be monitored in the debugger.

Setup & Installation / Re: CUPS printing - filter deployment how to?
« on: September 10, 2021, 03:33:16 pm »
If your cups installation is similar enough to the one used in ArcaOS, can you use PRINTMAN to set things up? In 5.0.6, the HL-5470DW isn't listed, but you installed -exp, so maybe it's already there.

Mail-News / Re: pmMail 3.24 serious problems
« on: August 20, 2021, 04:46:34 am »
The home page for PMMail/2 is here:

When you go there, a button on the left side of the page takes you to the bug-tracker.

Events / Warpstock 2021 - Call for presentations
« on: August 07, 2021, 03:29:09 pm »
I am writing to invite you to present at Warpstock 2021. Presentations can be live from your location or you can submit a video and take questions from the audience.

If you are willing to prepare a presentation for Warpstock 2021, please let me know as soon as possible by writing to Your presentation will help us make Warpstock 2021 a success.

I will want a presentation title, a short description to put on the website. If this is the first time presenting at Warpstock, I will also want a one-paragraph bio.

Your live input can come to us via most of the popular streaming services (Skype, Zoom, Google Hangouts, etc.). Please let us know in advance so that we may be prepared to receive your broadcast.

Your pre-recorded sessions may be in any the following formats: .mp4, .ts, .mov, .flv, .mkv, .avi, .gif, .webm.

Slides are not required, but if you use them, please send us your session slides in PDF or OpenOffice Impress format.

Be prepared for a brief (15-20 minute) technical run-through 7-10 days before the event, at an agreed upon time and date. (You do not need to have your slides prepared for the run-through.)

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