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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 17, 2021, 08:00:54 pm »
Where should I put pdfmerge? I'm not sure if it goes to "/pub/os2/apps/wp"
Maybe it should go on "/pub/os2/apps/wp/convert"

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 17, 2021, 03:27:44 am »
Sorry to interfere in the debate. I appreciate the idea to create and serve an OS/2 file archive. But what I really don't understand is why Hobbes is flooded with outdated files the had been deleted at the time creating much confusion.

Hi Harald.

To move, rename, or improve descriptions of the hobbes files, you need to upload them to the incoming directory. For the moment I haven't get any other way to improve hobbes directly from other place.

"flooded with outdated files the had been deleted at the time", what do you mean? please specify the file.
If it is about old drivers, I already explain it in past posts (and the latest drivers I uploaded are the same that were already at hobbes with an improved name and description). If it is about software, I'm reorganizing some file and re-uploading the last version of  software that is already there, usually to move it to the right directory.

Also, for people checking the incoming directory, check also the .txt file where I put the release date of the file.

Regards

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 16, 2021, 03:23:17 pm »
Hi

About Uniaud, I will keep thinking about it for some days.

For the moment I'm reorganizing and relocating the easy stuff that is obliviously located on the wrong place, like just over "/pub/os2/apps",  "/pub/os2/util" and "/pub/os2/games".

Where should I put pdfmerge? I'm not sure if it goes to "/pub/os2/apps/wp"

Also PMPrintf seems to be a different versions in different locations. I guess the right place is "/pub/os2/dev/util".

Remember that there is a backup of hobbes (2021-05) on a couple locations.

Regards

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Applications / Re: FreeRDP - we have options!!!
« on: June 15, 2021, 03:11:39 pm »
Thanks Dariusz for posting this good content. If you ever want to write a further article or tutorial, we can post it on the OS2World wiki.

Let's also remember to send the appreciation to Andrey Vasilkin (digi) for his OS/2 software and ports.

Regards

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Applications / Re: patched PmMerge
« on: June 14, 2021, 01:47:05 am »
... However I have no clue what pmmerge.dll is for.
Hi Mike

At EDM/2 we try to document each OS/2 file. Here it is more information about PMMERGE.DLL.

Regards

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 13, 2021, 06:26:07 pm »
Let's recapitulate.

What should be done with UniAud on hobbes? the suggestions are:
1) Only keep the latest one. (Have a different repository, os2site, netlabs, archive.org for the older versions)
2) Keep the main releases of Uniaud, not the development or preview releases.
3) Keep older released on a different directory. Maybe like /old like OS2Site has.

I'm still leaning for #1, since there are people that think that hobbes should be for the "Modern OS/2 User" and some other site should have all the "Legacy Driver".

Regards

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 13, 2021, 06:22:01 pm »
I get the impression that you are your own worst enemy regarding Hobbes. (I am assuming it is you that is adding all the ancient drivers/programs for which there is no hardware).
Indeed. I don't have any special access to hobbes. If you want to organize/fix/move/add descriptions/etc you need to go to the upload to incoming process. But wait, I'm uploading ancient drivers, but mostly there are the same drivers that are already there, that I'm just reorganizing, adding the version number and date.

It may be an issue for people who search the incoming folder to check for software updates, which I guess it is not what the incoming folder is intended for.

Regards

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 13, 2021, 02:35:21 pm »

Hi
rumors said  that early builds of uniaud  supported multi channel sound  on some hardware.
If it can be possible I would like to confirm or deny that rumor.

keep all development or preview releases in archive sub dir
I'm not sure that will be look so good on hobbes. I'm still contemplating the idea to have two repositories, one with the full archive with all versions of drivers and software (maybe at OS2Site, and an extra public backup), and just retain the latest on hobbes.

Regards

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 13, 2021, 02:32:46 pm »
Hi
rumors said  that early builds of uniaud  supported multi channel sound  on some hardware.
If it can be possible I would like to confirm or deny that rumor.

Regards

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 13, 2021, 03:26:38 am »
Hi.
In this case why keep such old antique versions of Uniaud ? For other drivers I can imagen you keep them.
....So why distribute old stuff that can pontially crash a users computer ?

...The question seems to be a bit theoretical since more and more ancient drivers are uploaded. Even when someone prefers the original SPEA-V7 driver, I don't guess what's the benefit of keeping the older 2.02 release.

I will like to repeat again the rationale for keeping old drivers.

The OS/2 community is not only composed by people that want to run OS/2 and ArcaOS on the latest and better hardware. Recently there had been a lot of hobbyist that are running older OS/2 on old hardware with old cards and old peripherals. Even from time to time an industrial user of OS/2 shows up that need old driver for older OS/2 for their machines. Keeping old drivers allow them to use OS/2 the way the like and need.  Remember that sometimes newer drivers (of the same device and developer) remove the OS/2 2.x or Warp 3 support in favor of the latest OS/2, so it is important to preserve every version of OS/2 drivers for people not using the latest OS/2 version.

If someone points me to a driver that can be dangerous (like bad file system driver that can wipe all the hard drive), I will request to be removed from hobbes and preserve it somewhere else with the proper warnings to the end user.

When I upload an old driver to hobbes, I try to put on the short description the name, the version and the date. I name it similar as  the latest one but with lower version (or earlier date) so the user can easily identify and try the latest first, and later download the older one if he needs it.

What the discussion should be, is if these old drivers should be kept on Hobbes or not.
The discussion started with UniAud and the suggestions are:
1) Only keep the latest one.
2) Keep the main releases of Uniaud, not the development or preview releases.

Regards

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 13, 2021, 12:54:36 am »
Hi

These are the Uniaud version on hobbes.

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Uniaud-20181126.exe   Uniaud Installer 2018-11-26
Uniaud-Installer-195-213.zip   UniAud Audio Driver Beta Installer (2010-04-20)
UniAud-Installer_1-0-9_20060325.zip   UniAud 1.0.9 Installer (2006-03-25)
UniAud-Installer_1-0-9_20060829.zip   UniAud 1.0.9 Installer (2006-08-29)
UniAud-Installer_1-0-9_20060830.zip   UniAud 1.0.9 Installer (2006-08-30)
Uniaud-Update-195-213.zip   UniAud Audio Driver Beta Update (2010-04-20)
Uniaud32_1-9-5_2008-07-16.zip   Uniaud32 v1.9.5 based on ALSA level 1.0.17 - 2008-07-16 - SVN revision 358
UniAud32_Resync_1-0-1.zip   UniAud32 Resync Driver 1.0.1 (2008/01/26)
UniAud_1-0-4b_20030425.zip   UniAud 1.0.4b Driver (2003-04-25)
UniAud_1-0-4_20021009.zip   UniAud 1.0.4 Driver (2002-10-09)
UniAud_1-0-4_20021031.zip   UniAud 1.0.4 Driver (2002-10-31)
UniAud_1-0-9_20050802.zip   UniAud 1.0.9 Driver (2005-08-02)
UniAud_1-1-2_2004-12-29.zip   Uniaud 1.1.2 (2004-12-29)
UniAud_1-1-4-RC4.zip   UniAud 1.1.4 RC4 Driver (2007/11/20)
UniAud_1-1-4-RC5_20080218.zip   UniAud 1.1.4 RC5 Driver (2008-02-18)
UniAud_1-1-4-RC6.zip   UniAud 1.1.4 RC6 Driver (2008/04/02)
UniAud_1-1-4-RC7.ZIP   UniAud 1.1.4 RC7 Driver (2008/11/22)
Uniaud_2-2-6_2020-05-06.exe   
UniAud_debug_1-1-4-RC4.zip   UniAud 1.1.4 RC4 Driver Debug Version (2007/11/20)
UniAud_debug_1-1-4-RC5.zip   UniAud 1.1.4 RC5 Driver Debug Version (2008/02/22)
UniAud_debug_1-1-4-RC6.zip   UniAud 1.1.4 RC6 Driver Debug Version (2008/04/04)
UniAud_debug_1-1-4-RC7.zip

Which ones should we keep in addition of the latest " Uniaud-20210320.exe" ?

My bet would be.

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- Uniaud-20210320.exe                               Uniaud 3.01.01
- Uniaud_2-2-6_2020-05-06.exe   
- UniAud_1-1-2_2004-12-29.zip               Uniaud 1.1.2 (2004-12-29)
- UniAud-Installer_1-0-9_20060830.zip       UniAud 1.0.9 Installer (2006-08-30)
- UniAud_1-0-4_20021031.zip               UniAud 1.0.4 Driver (2002-10-31)

Trying to be the latest of each version, but I would also have to check the Netlabs ftp to be sure about it.
Any other bets?

Regards

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Hobbes (Files) Reoganization
« on: June 11, 2021, 03:55:30 pm »
Hi

Here goes another one.

I want to upload Uniaud-20210320.exe to hobbes. Should I replace all other older Uniaud versions available there. (like 22 versions of Uniaud) ??

It will not mean that all other older Uniaud version will be gone from earth, we have backups on netlabs, os2site and Internet Archive. It will be towards the idea that Hobbes should only have the latest version of software.

Regards

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Hi
There's https://www.patreon.com/posts/2ine-16-bit-exe-19337541 and a couple of other posts in the same thread. ....
2ine was my 2018 feel good moment when I saw that one little document that I asked IBM permission to repost was actually used by someone.

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After much head scratching about why it was trying to jump back from 16-bit land to a totally bogus 32-bit code segment, I found an ancient IBM CourseWare document on the Internet Archive that explained this.
  (source)

The dream will be to add "OS/2 personality" to a microkernel project. Instead of suffering for our own kernel, lets grab it from some stronger community that worries about that. Some people says the kernel made the OS, I believe that the "OS experience" is the OS.
I would prefer Zircon, based in LK (made by the same guy from HaikuOS), since it is an open source kernel where Google is investing and creating a community for it.  It will stop being OS/2, since compatibility will be interpreted over a different kernel, but it may open the doors for a better future for the platform.

Regards

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Web applications / Re: QT5 simplebrowser
« on: June 09, 2021, 01:25:43 am »
I've been trying not to interject into this thread, but I have to get this off my chest.
Paul: KO Myung-Hun, Tellie and you have a great attitude and I hope others developer can have just half of that good vibe.
Don't feel bad, it is just that bitwise is out in the market requesting donations to complete a big project. For the moment it is the only one that have came out and said "I can do this project, but I need this much".

Regards

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Web applications / Re: QT5 simplebrowser
« on: June 08, 2021, 02:05:48 am »
What Lewis mentioned is that he thinks its not far if people to renew the ArcaOS subscription after not having paid for it for 3 years. The customer then buys a new subscription and would access to version 5.0.6.  It seems BTW recently Arca Noae modified the policy and when you let the subscription expire for a long time you pay an extra fee for getting access again.
Hi
This is nothing new on the software market.

IBM, for on premises licenses, there are this three states.
- 1) NEW LICENSE: You buy new licenses with 12 months maintenance.
- 2) RENEWAL: The next year you do a RENEWAL for 20% of the new license cost to have the right to software updates and tickets.
- 3) REINSTAMENT: If you didn't bought the RENEWAL, if you passed the renewal period, you will need to get the REINSTAMENT, that is like 60% of the license cost to have again the right to software updates and tickets.
(This used to apply for OS/2 Warp too, back on the late 90's)

Oracle is worst in my opinion, his way of reinstament is charging you all the years you didn't pay and charge you at once, if you want to have again the right to software updates and tickets.

Regards

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