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Applications / Re: About eComStation Pricing
« on: October 10, 2014, 05:08:28 am »
eCS Home/Student gives you the right to be installed on 5 PCs..
Sorry, my mistake. I must be confused with other thing.

Any comments on the rest?

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Applications / About eComStation Pricing
« on: October 10, 2014, 12:12:55 am »
Hi

I wrote this as a response to other thread, but I didn't want to hi-jack that thread. So I'm creating a new one just for the fun of the open discussion. 

I had checked a couple of sites in the past that discussed the price of eComStation. Some OS enthusiast say they want to give it a try to eComStation. But when the see the $149 for Home and Student edition price they say that it is too much for just a "wild interest". $149 it is too much for an OS that gives you a 30% chance (am I being kind?) of not running on your computer and that may be incompatible with your hardware. So, for the OS enthusiast, there is a money breaking point of how much they want to spend/risk just to try out the experience of eComStation.

If we compare eCS 2.1 $149 price against Windows, it may sound competitive:

Check out Windows prices (from some sources on the internet)
- $69.99 for DVD upgrades from Windows XP, Vista, or 7 to Windows 8 Pro
- $69.99 for a downloadable upgrade key
- $99.99 for standalone OEM version of Windows 8 (32-bit and 64-bit)
- $139.99 for standalone OEM version of Windows 8 Pro

But that was OEM, let's check out Retail:
- Standard edition - $119.99
- Pro version -  $199.99.

eCS 2.1 $149 even looks cheaper than Windows (or Windows may be overpriced), since eComStation costs more to be maintained, since it have less sales than Windows. eCS Home/Student gives you the right to be installed on 5 PCs and there is no crippled version of it, since it will be compared to the Pro version of Windows.  I can put a lot more blah, blah, but the fact is that all of this arguments are non valid arguments, since the reality is that we don't have "new" people buying eCS for individual use, not even the OS enthusiast. (I can say this, because I don't see a grow in the community)

The facts are that:
- eCS does not have updated drivers and you may not have sound or network on your computer.
- Windows keeps selling on every new machine (at least the good thing is that the PC market is coming down with it)
- Linux is good enough for an OS and it is free.
- Other experimental OS (ReactOS, HaikuOS) are available for free.

I think that eComStation needs a more aggressive pricing for people that are new to the platform and that want it for individual use. Maybe limiting it more to an specific individual non-commercial use, but giving it cheaper.  Maybe giving a $30 non-commercial individual license, without any subscription or drivers updates, will be a good breaking point for people that wants to give it a try. who knows?

Of course that there is the limitation that IBM wants his OEM fee for each license, but we don't know that agreement. I don't know if IBM is asking $1 dollar of each license or $148 :)   On the end, what is happening is that we do not have any users grow, and they will suck the money out of the legacy until the last one turn off the light.

So, I think that a money sacrifice needs to done on the license cost from Mensys/XEU. The other alternative is to continue with the same model until the last one of the corporate customer migrates to other platform and the last OS/2 user dies (For the moment no one has returned from the death to complain that eCS has no drivers - or is it that the nonliving does not use this forum? :)

Money is a resource that is required and needed, but it is useless if all the people leave and there is no one left to use the platform.  eCS needs to try to move out from the "Legacy Market" because that market is focused to "squeeze money" while it is available and later dump it. It needs to move to a different market, which is hard, but at least it needs to be tried.

This is why I think that all efforts that we made today needs to be done in a way that allows derivative works to be done in the future without the control of only one person or company........ is it the open source solution showing up again?

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General Discussion / Re: 1.2R vs 2.1
« on: October 09, 2014, 11:52:14 pm »
Choosing between 1.2R vs 2.1 is easy. Version 2.1 is better, it had more up to date drivers and works better.

But... I agreed with Guzzi, it is not a moment to buy right now. Let's hear the announcement at WarpStock. Menso needs to explain (I hope) what XEU is going to offer with eComStation. And I Also want to see what Arca Noae is going to offer for the platform.

Regards

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Programming / Re: GitHub Repository - Public OS/2 Source Code - Feedback
« on: October 09, 2014, 06:04:34 pm »
Hi.

If it is possible I will like to challenge the community to do this two things:

1) To make a complete dump of github.com/os2world. (using the scripts I pointed before)
2) To make a complete dump of the OS2World and EDM/2 Wiki . (It can be done with a python Dump tool from WikiTeam)

I will be happy if someone can take dumps of this sites every 6 months, but not several people at the same time :)

I really do not have time to test that python scripts, and the Github and the Wikis belong to all of us (so it is complete legal), that why I think it is important to have some independent  backups around.

Regards

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Applications / Re: My lost apps...
« on: October 09, 2014, 02:25:49 pm »
Hi Jean-Yves.

Can I have your permission to include your screenshots and you software description on the OS2World Wiki?

I plan to create three Wiki pages under this page: http://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/Jean-Yves_Rouffiac

Regards

Martín

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Links on front page
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:45:27 pm »
Hi Olafur.

There is a link to the OS2World Wiki on the main OS2World.com page. At the top.

The rest is on th "Links" area. But EDM/2 wiki is not being part of OS2World site. We collaborate there but it is not on the same OS2World server.

Regards

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Programming / Re: GitHub Repository - Public OS/2 Source Code - Feedback
« on: October 08, 2014, 04:40:02 pm »
Thanks for the heads up, I will keep in mind that.

The good things is that GitHub has a good search, so I can try to find anything that I'm upload duplicated...but my searchs are not fail-proof, so if there is anything duplicated on Github/os2world let me know.

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Programming / Re: GitHub Repository - Public OS/2 Source Code - Feedback
« on: October 07, 2014, 11:55:20 pm »
Ouch!!.. I just found all this - http://kimludvigsen.dk/os2/gfd/dev/xmpl/index.php

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Programming / Re: GitHub Repository - Public OS/2 Source Code - Feedback
« on: October 07, 2014, 08:55:13 pm »
I will prepare the file for this weekend.

If anybody has more source code around that the repository is missing, please let me know.

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Programming / Re: GitHub Repository - Public OS/2 Source Code - Feedback
« on: October 07, 2014, 01:27:52 am »
Good question

Right now all the files are 4GB (non-zippped) and 1246 repositories.  I have one copy here in my machine and other on GitHub. So it is a good idea to have another backup since we never know how long GitHub will be there.

I'm thinking on packing it and upload it somewhere, but when I say I'm done I always find more source code to upload. I think I will make a total backup this weekend.

There are also ways to clone all the Git repos from a organization but I didn't try them yet.
For example:
1) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19576742/how-to-clone-all-repos-at-once-from-git
2) http://www.aheritier.net/clone-all-repositories-from-a-github-organization/
3) https://gist.github.com/caniszczyk/3856584

But I haven't tried any of those. If anybody clones it and suceed please let us know.

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: timeouts when posting
« on: October 07, 2014, 12:14:07 am »
Hi

I will test this more. I will install SeaMonkey and try out to see what is happening.

Regards.

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Programming / Re: GitHub Repository - Public OS/2 Source Code - Feedback
« on: October 07, 2014, 12:02:20 am »
Hi.

I just finished uploading the code from hobbes (only the games are missing... I know) on the Github OS2World repository.  By the way I contacted the Hobbes archiver and they are working to fix the problem with the server.

So, this marks one milestone on my project of uploading all the source code related to OS/2 I can find. Now I want to focus on uploading source code from other sources that are missing at hobbes.

Request and suggestions are welcome now.

Regards.

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Applications / Synchronizing files between several machines
« on: October 05, 2014, 06:49:07 pm »
Hi

I want to know which tools are you using to synchronize files between several machines (eCS against eCS, or eCS against other OS).

I was tempted to use "owncloud". But for what I read you need to set up a PHP server to make the "main repository" to work.
I also noticed we have Synkron and rsync ported, but I had never used. I also checked on the wikipedia to see what other alternatives are on any platform.

What do you recommend to syncronize files automatically between two computer that are on the same network? I want something with "no cloud", just that when the two machine finds on the network, it starts syncing the changed on the selected folders.

Regards

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Applications / Re: Regina REXX vs. OS/2 REXX
« on: October 02, 2014, 08:05:22 pm »
Thanks for the replies.

What I want to try,  when I finish "OS2World Github" source code upload, is to give it more time to experiment Regina REXX.

Maybe on a VM machine I will test some REXX scripts I collected (https://github.com/OS2World/CMD-Scripts), run them on OS/2 REXX see if they work and after that wipe out (delete) the OS/2 REXX and install Regina and see what breaks.

...just to experiment.  But if anybody wants to give it a try before me, he is welcome.

Regards

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Marketplace / Re: ebay Stuff
« on: October 01, 2014, 12:19:41 am »

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