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The problem with PMMail is that it doesn't handle some of the security connections that these big email providers demand. Perhaps if it now supports the correct TLS, an app password would also work.
Changing the subject from Copyright to Trademark
Can we do something evil since IBM let the OS/2 trademark expire ?
- https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=74515112&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch
Maybe something like register the logo again and create own our legal T-Shirts.
Any Trademark lawyers friends around?
C006 was unfinshed, so without reason to update, probably best not to. You still might want to update to the last available kernel, 104 I think.
If someone wants to try OS/2, and downloads a copy from the Internet, I doubt they can get in trouble with IBM, even if they are violating license terms.
It's different for someone who wants to offer OS/2 software. IBM may have issues with someone distributing OS/2 parts and fixpaks. Here on OS/2 World, we don't even give links to unofficial OS/2 media and fixes. But OS/2 has been off the market for 18 years.
Is there some time limit after which OS/2 licensing doesn't matter?
Have we already reached that time?
When can a business or other organization offer OS/2 parts without licensing restrictions?
ArcaNoae can't sell eCS as much of it is copyrighted by Mensys or their successor. Look at https://www.arcanoae.com/shop/os2-ecs-drivers-software-subscription-personal-renewal/ for upgrading your eCS and which drivers you can update.
I hope this helps...
A while back, I suggested OS/2 (and probably most OSes) has Developers and Users, putting myself firmly in the latter class. Since then, I have begun to suspect I should have at least two machines.
One would run normal AOS, currently 5.1 here, and do AOS-type work, including internet (assuming Them As Fix Things can settle the Browser Saga so I need not use my Dell m/c running Win-10).
The other would be the equivalent of the trusty old office typewriter, for writing work, the WP being WordStar-7c. When I ran eCS-2.1, WS-7c ran well. Not so with AOS-5.1's DOS session, which requires me not to invoke certain commands (or the system crashes) and its Win-3.1 session (which is flaky with old reference tools like the Oxford Compendium). So it would be Nice if They could offer a package comprising eCS-2.1 with upgrades of its ability to handle today's disk formats and USB types. Communication with the AOS m/c, as required, would be through intermediate USB storage devices. The AOS m/c, at a pinch, could format those devices. For office work, that's all I need.
What are my chances?
@Martin - actually I was using QT6 apps listed here: https://trac.netlabs.org/qtapps, but thanks for the link. I'll try some of Tellie's recent ones from there.
@Dave - if I put SET QT_PM_CP=1208 in CONFIG.SYS, it will effect both QT5 and QT6 (I have both recent hotfixes)?
@Roderick - I was testing with only what runs with the WPS, no other apps. If anything, I am guilty of loading too much into high memory, although I think I have that under control now...
Regards,
Thanks Paul and Rich! I went to the Netlabs website where a bunch of QT6 apps are listed, but every one I tried would lock my computer solid, even without SET QT_PM_CP-1208. I'm guessing they were compiled with an older version of QT6, from before Paul changed the DLL names. So does anyone know of working QT6 apps compiled with the most recent QT6 (besides Dooble)? I'm happy to test...
Regards,
Hey Chris,
later versions of windows have deprecated SMB1 and the legacy NTLM authentication. https://winsides.com/enable-smb-1-0-cifs-file-sharing-support-windows-11/ might help....
Roderick,
The MSI motherboard/BIOS will switch from UEFI/CMS mode to CMS/UEFI mode during boot if it does not detect GOP support in the graphics card, which pretty much insures that you see SOMETHING - at least with this motherboard/BIOS combination. But the installer won't get the screen where you select system maintenance or install. I submitted a ticket and some data to AOS to see it they would support the card in the installer and the answer was no - which I completely understand.
As you said, I can't detect a performance difference between Panorama and SNAP.
Hey Doug!...desktop Ryzen 5 5600x on MSI PROB500-VC (circa late 2020) with very fast NVMe SSD and spinning hard drive. The Ryzen 5 5600x and MSI PROB550-VC can still be purchased new as of this writing (Nov 2024).
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Performance
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Graphical: I am not gaming on any machine so for me graphical performance on all three are basically the same. The machines are running both panorama (T530) and SNAP in both accelerated (Ryzen) and non-accelerated mode (EliteDesk 800), and for me there is no noticeable difference in graphical performance. This includes text mode scrolling in editors and command line prompts, as well as graphical performance in VLC while playing movies...
I am very interested in the AMD Ryzen stuff, especially in light of this being a configuration that allows you to run SNAP.
I have an old ATI X850XT PE video card here that, until I decide to buy one of these curved high-resolution displays, will continue to serve me in a dual-head configuration.
OK, so what GPU are you running? ...as this would certain appear to be a viable approach.
Further on, can you post the matching SysBench results for your combo? (I've attached mine)
I recently upgraded (yes, LOL, I am dealing with some rather ancient hardware here by today's standards, but alas, where is the fun in all this otherwise?) from a AMD Phenom II X6 110T (6-core) to AMD FX-8370 Piledriver (8-core) CPU configuration.
Without getting into the nitty gritty CPU architecture details, I have been somewhat dissapointed with the outcome...but hey, only $50 later it can hardly be thought off as 'wasted spend'!
So bottom line here being: performance benchmarks aside, it is the whole feel of the machine that needs to be right, and before one spends the $$$ to go there I would ideally love to be able to do some kind of an assessment as to what the outcomes may be.
Roderick,
Thanks for the input.
I should have mentioned that psd=acpi.psd /maxcpu=1 in CONFIG.SYS does fix the issues I have with Win-OS/2 software running on the Ryzen system, as does running those applications in full screen mode. But running apps in seamless mode is pretty important to me. And I should make it clear that some Win-OS/2 applications run fine in seamless mode on the Ryzen machine. Some lock up the machine pretty quickly, some take a longer while to lock up the machine. I do have a ticket open for this particular issue.
The title Intel vs AMD is somewhat misleading because I am not sure how much is just limited to the CPU and how much influence supporting chipsets, motherboard and bios have - but those other factors are usually closely related to the CPU selected.
