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It's weird, the boot should go further. My T42 is a bitch to boot the USB but DVD boot has always simply worked.
Did you check the md5sum on your ISO, does sound like a corrupted ISO. Sometimes USB sticks have subtle errors, especially if old, but you're getting the same with the DVD boot.
You can always request a new ISO build from Arca Noae.
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I'm trying to upgrade myself to a T43 laptop with Arca.

I try to boot from ARCA511 USB stick. I get a White underline in the top right corner and things stop. (no other text).

I tried to boot off of a DVD that I made.
Same symptom, but I saw some harddrive activity on the HD status light.

What I have tried:

Boot live GParted - wiped the drive, only installed a MSDOS partition table.
Same Thing.
Boot live GParted - formatted the disk to JFS
Same Thing.

Reset BIO's to defaults, saved and rebooted.
Same thing.

Booted an MBR - Linux 18.04 stick.
Booted to installer fine.
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Programming / Re: Networking: socket() returns positive `non-socket`
« Last post by JTA on July 09, 2025, 04:40:44 pm »
" Shame to see you go, but quite understandable as the OS/2 base continues to shrink. "

This comment got me thinking ... I'm not sure it's "shrinking", so much as folks just don't know how to get OS/2 stuff done in modern times. Perhaps this is an issue with "getting the message out", to dev's, gamer's, end-user's, etc.

I think many, many folks get hold of OS/2, try it once and have some issue with connectivity or browsing, and bail. Aside from Martin's and a few others' prepackaged VM that has it working from the start, but which is not well advertised, there is nothing to help these folks out.

** Most likely, we only get one shot. **

I can't think of any vehicle more important than:
- Warpstock ... this org seems "glacial" to me ... it still exists, but moves very slowly, so it seems to not get the word out to those who need it. You would want to go here, but there's nothing "there". This thread itself cries out for a "dev model" or template (or three), that anyone can d/l and run, and do productive things with. I suggest pre-built vm's ...
- user groups ... these do seem to have fallen by the wayside, and I don't know what to do. I tried joining a cali one, but that just dead-ended. So, user groups need to be rekindled, somehow ...
- Team OS/2 ... I've harped on this, and I'll gladly be one of the cheerleaders, but, somehow, we've all got to get together and decide how to push this forward.

I've done several threads on the above, but, in a forum, it's hard to evangelize and get action ... something else is needed.

In the meantime, AToF works, and would work well for dev's, gamer's, end-user's (working to complete my "Live-USB" concept (BTW, I need ArcaOS to work towards a "demo" mechanism, cause I'm stuck using "warp 3" demo as a placeholder VM (demo licensing issues for a LiveUSB))), and many other use cases. OS/2 is still very relevant ... it needs to be in front of everyone's face, so they stop bleating that it is dead (apparently, we all enjoy beating a supposedly dead horse).
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Programming / Re: Networking: socket() returns positive `non-socket`
« Last post by JTA on July 09, 2025, 03:31:36 pm »
" Nobody is using OS/2 any longer. And this is really sad. But I have to accept that. "

We don't have actual numbers because no company releases them in an easily digestable form, easily found by all. I'd contend that there are still quite a large number out there based upon:
- ArcaNoae's info page:  arcanoae.com/faqwd/os2-still-used-today/
  (ask AN to release real numbers, which they should have)
- OS2World's "hit count" on many pages, showing 10's of 1000's of views
- popularity of archive.org content, and many other sites hosting such content
- gaming, dev, ...

For myself, it is super-easy to use OS/2 (Warp 4.52, ArcaOS) in virtualization, so I actually use it quite frequently, not having any of the problems that most have, trying to run natively on modern (or old) hardware ... for details, look at the virtualization sub-forum on this site:

  os2world.com/forum/index.php/topic,3501.0.html  (many AToF posts)

I only point this last part out, because, virtualization allows you to run a modern 64-bit os as a "service" for your dev machine or other functional use (the AToF scheme); the x64 service removes all OS/2 problems. On top of that, you can have multiple OS/2 vm's running (an Athena dev vm), each dedicated to your dev, testing or usage requirements. In particular, you can craft a specific DEV vm for os/2 (GCC, EMX, etc.) that is both easy to create (snapshots until it's perfect), or, you can have some of the dev experts create one for you (I respectfully suggest @Kyo, @Paul, many others), perhaps for money, to repay their time?

What has fallen by the wayside isn't OS/2 itself, it's the lost knowledge of how to tune it for modern times (in a vm). I routinely bring up a VM with os/2 2.11, or warp 3 or 4, or arcaos, and it is built as if the year was still 19xx (4.52 or earlier), or 2025 (AOS 5.x or later), and they work flawlessly, each running the software of it's time. Virtualization enables this ...

I'd suggest recreating your athena programming environment to reflect running OS/2 in the same way as when Athena did run (natively) in a reasonable fashion. Then, many can compare vm's to see if AOS can be improved to move Athena forward, or if it should remain available, but only on older OS/2 versions that continue to run perfectly fine in a VM.

Hope this helps ...
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Programming / Re: Networking: socket() returns positive `non-socket`
« Last post by Dave Yeo on July 09, 2025, 01:11:51 am »
Thank you for all your kind help. Thank you, indeed. Especially you, Dave on your cool math OS/2 fix.

I just decided to remove all OS/2-related code from Agena. It took me lifetime weeks with all the weird OS/2 quarrels with no avail.

Nobody is using OS/2 any longer. And this is really sad. But I have to accept that.

Alex

Shame to see you go, but quite understandable as the OS/2 base continues to shrink.
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Programming / Re: Networking: socket() returns positive `non-socket`
« Last post by Roderick Klein on July 09, 2025, 12:09:43 am »
The ArcaOS development environment I paid EUR 150,- for does not work at all !

Had a nice time with OS/2 - I really loved it - and thank you for all the support you have given.

Well where was advertised that ArcaOS was a development environment ? BTW the networkstack in ArcaOS is the same as eComStation and MCP 2.
So you it should fail on older versions of OS/2 as well.

Roderick
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Hello Alex

Quote
some years ago, a student hired by NMSU had a bad day and re-invented how files should be named at Hobbes.
It was not a student, it was me and it didn't took a "bad day", it took several "bad years" (sarcasm).

We discussed in this forum the Hobbes reorganization for some years. There was the problem that several drivers were called os2warp.zip, os2.zip and you have no idea what the file was about by reading it.

Long story short (with a lot of discussion) I documented the "Upload File Naming Convention - 100% optional From Martin Iturbide". I didn't came up with that kind of standard, I just saw it in some other files and took that one.

As it say, it is 100% optional. The important thing is to keep uploading new software to Hobbes.

Regards
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Programming / Re: Brainstorm: OS/2 on a Different Kernel
« Last post by Martin Iturbide on July 08, 2025, 06:08:27 pm »
Hello
Some days I wonder if the best thing that could happen to that kernel is a leak of it and the default drivers set.
There was already a leak of the source code of the Warp 4 (not 4.5) kernel. I personally don't have the skill to know how useful is the source code. The issue is that it had fired in the past the discussion if it is legal or not to use it.

According the some people, the OS4 Russian Team created derivatives of the kernel with this leaked source code.... more discussion.

Also we have Arca Noae that as a formal commercial agreement with IBM and those kind of agreements you are required to protect the intelectual property of IBM.

About the leaked source code I guess it is only legal under the 107 article of the US copyright law, which limits a lot the commercial use of it.

So, I don't know  ;D ;D ;D ...we discuss it a lot and the ideal thing (long term) will be that IBM releases the source code or to build an open source clone.

Regards



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Programming / Re: Brainstorm: OS/2 on a Different Kernel
« Last post by SoundChaser on July 08, 2025, 03:23:14 pm »
Some days I wonder if the best thing that could happen to that kernel is a leak of it and the default drivers set.

Then there would be a _shockwave_ on slashdot and hackernews and it lasts for a week, maybe a month.

Then IBM would weakly tries to contain it... and eventually give up.... and we get to build it and take it from there. It's all dead code anyway!
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Programming / Re: Networking: socket() returns positive `non-socket`
« Last post by agena.info on July 08, 2025, 11:36:31 am »
Thank you for all your kind help. Thank you, indeed. Especially you, Dave on your cool math OS/2 fix.

I just decided to remove all OS/2-related code from Agena. It took me lifetime weeks with all the weird OS/2 quarrels with no avail.

Nobody is using OS/2 any longer. And this is really sad. But I have to accept that.

Alex
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