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The "easy way" of doing this (if there is such a thing) to me seems like if you could wedge a hypervisor under OS/2 (or inside of it as the case my be) so you could run multiple instances of it, as if it were on KVM of ESXi but have it be totally transparent (or mostly transparently) to the user so it is all managed by native ArcaOS / OS/2 tooling in the UI and it appears like you are running one OS (think of the way virtual DOS machines currently work in OS/2).

I totally agree with this approach especially as multicore machines cries out machine partitioning as well.
If legacy 32-bit OS/2 would settle in VMs as DOS now (VOM = Virtual OS/2 Machine), then such old apps can use that, and new environment can be 64-bit, so memory management can move on enabling using physical memory above 4.00 GB.

Storage capacity itself can be resolved with network drives. That way OS/2 users can use any kind of filesystems those for there are no installable filesystem solution actually - e.g. XFS, OpenZFS, etc.
     Also if you want RAID there, no problem if OS/2 does not support natively any raid device -- there you can have it underlying on the other machine. However I rather suggest LVM possibilities (on Linux) to add additional drive / copies of physical partitions when a new LV created for a filesystem. I got raid error on my home PC server once, and I could mirror / sripe on LVM layer more reliable than the risky raid stuff. In case RAID you really need a good, working backup/restore solution.
You don't need to use up many drive letters as you can mount them into directory as well. So the max. storage can be up above 48 GB that way.
 

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Hi Dave,

   Sorry, it was last Chrome on Win XP SP3 (49.0.2623.112 m).
   Anyway
   I've removed the cookies and cache for os2world.com and reloaded the page.
   After re-login : I went to the affected post and try out : can I correct syntax errors ?
   Failed - but as it is minor issue this way and reduced only for me, so I would avoid typo
   after all before submit.  ;D
   Otherwise , it was worth a try ...
 
  Thanks again :D

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Hi,

    Once I succesfully fixed my post in the forum, but after I just could only attempting -- as my savings always failed  -- even if I just removed one character and not a word or a quote.
    Another interesting behaviour :
    earlier I selected a smaller part from what I wanted to quote from other posts, but the whole post got in to my post's input field. Then I thoght : it is no problem I will edit it manually to the required amount there, but when I actually did it then I got the same error message above. This way I gave up and left as it happened to be posted at all.
    Could someone correct me if I was doing something wrong?
    I would like to understand why is it happen(ed/ing) and how to avoid it if it is really my fault.

Thanks in advance,

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Welcome Kékróka,
For completeness, there is the OS/2 museum take on it, http://www.os2museum.com/wp/os2-history/os2-warp-powerpc-edition/.
Someone recently asked Michal for an image of it, he said sure, if he can find it and the hard drive still works.


Ahoy Dave !

Thanks for greetings :D

And for answering ...

Yepp, this way I wrote : "among similar ones"

Also you are absolutely right right, OS/2 Museum link covers a more detailed and accuraate answer for the initial question of Sigurd Fastenrath,
however I intended to answer to Martin Iturbide with my links, and on macintoshgarden site there are downloadable materials' links  there ... and might he can use them somehow against my last pessimistic paragraphs ;)

Aisumasen (If I was wrong)

Welcome Kékróka,
For completeness, there is the OS/2 museum take on it, http://www.os2museum.com/wp/os2-history/os2-warp-powerpc-edition/.
Someone recently asked Michal for an image of it, he said sure, if he can find it and the hard drive still works.

The person was Sebastian Blanco ... well not the football player from Argentina :D ( hehe
, I found him first ) but a developer from Spain (https://sebasblanco.com/)
Interestingly not he was from some OS/2 related project, but the requested one to provide DD image -- and mentioned by you -- Michal Necasek from osFree project.
Quite surprising, indeed ?

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Hello,

I found this link among similar ones about a big project - which was cancelled later

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/ibm-os2-warp-powerpc-edition

That is about a special Warp 3 running on some workstations and laptops
with PPC processors as first fruitition of a Unified OS of All (Workplace OS).

"IBM OS/2 Warp PowerPC Edition was a port of OS/2 Warp 3 to the PowerPC Reference Platform (PReP). It was a subsystem (OS/2 personality) running on the IBM microkernel, which was a refinement of the Carnegie Mellon University Mach microkernel. It was a first step to Workplace OS (or WPOS for short) was supposed to be built on top of the Mach microkernel and support multiple "personalities". The personalities would implement existing operating systems such as OS/2, AIX, Windows NT and perhaps even Mac OS. In the end this never happened and the only supported personality was OS/2."

Applicable hardwers were only :
---------------------------------

"Compatibility
Architecture: PPC
Installs only install on IBM PowerPC workstations and on Motorola PowerStack (PowerPC Reference Platform (PReP)).

Compatible IBM PowerPC workstations:
%u2022 Desktop:
Personal Computer Power Series 830 (PowerPC 604)
Personal Computer Power Series 850 (PowerPC 604)
%u2022 Laptop:
ThinkPad Power Series 820 (PowerPC 603e)
ThinkPad Power Series 850 (PowerPC 603e)"


Also among early RS/6000 you would find not just POWER but PPC versions as they started also with those processors as well.

On those it could not be hard to attempt to install this environment especially which was Prep version also and even not Microchannel but PCI bus if those above mentioned 2 PPC workstations and 2 PPC laptops were built such way.

So, let's check it out ...

You can read this on wiki page of rs/6000 about it -- starting section History :

"The first RS/6000 models used the Micro Channel bus, later models used PCI. Some later models conformed to the PReP and CHRP standard platforms, which were co-developed with Apple and Motorola, with Open Firmware. The plan was to enable the RS/6000 to run multiple operating systems such as Windows NT, NetWare, OS/2, Solaris, Taligent, AIX and Mac OS but in the end only IBM's Unix variant AIX was used and supported on RS/6000. Linux is widely used on CHRP based RS/6000s, but support was added after the RS/6000 name was changed to eServer pSeries in 2000."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_RISC_System/6000


When I searched for

"Personal Computer Power Series 830 (PowerPC 604)"

I got the following wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC_Series


and here there was a section :

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

PC Power Series
This is the PC counterpart of the RS/6000
PowerPC 604 processor at 100, 120 or 133 MHz
ISA/PCI PReP architecture
16MB parity memory standard, expandable to 192MB
Integrated 10baseT Ethernet, PCI Graphics and Audio
Supports Windows NT 3.51 or AIX Version 4
ARC BIOS
Two form-factors were available, the 3x3 (3 slot, 3 bay) PC830 and the larger 5x5 (5 slot, 5 bay) PC850.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Well I left out the table following, but you can chech it out personally
I assume one of those RS/6000 machines were attempted to install and run that limited beta OS2 Warp3 OS personality on it.

So it was possible to run the OS, but it was not a generic PPC solution, you may hope for,
there were not even network subsystem in it, or many applications ported .. except some listed on the first link above, rather like a pure OS "demo".

From the first link :

"IBM OS/2 Warp PowerPC Edition was never released as a product and was only offered to interested IBM customers as CD pack (2 CDs: "OS/2 Warp (PowerPC Edition) December 1995 Version" and "IBM Applications Sampler"). It stayed in beta status until cancelation of the OS/2 PowerPC project in 1996.

IBM OS/2 Warp PowerPC Edition had all features of its Intel counterpart OS/2 Warp 3 (including DOS and Win-OS2 support), but missing all the networking functionality of the "Connect" versions. It had a beta version of OpenGL support, which shared code with IBM's AIX workstation class implementation. Moreover, it had already many features that showed up later in OS/2 Warp 4 on Intel."

I hope these links might fullfil everyone's curiosity,
but sadly and possibly not their satisfactory.

Also however its downloadable .. playing with it possibly hard as you shuld buy compatible (rare) PPC hardwer as well .. which one should be funtioning well as expected.

For virtualized solution I suggest to read comment posts also on the first link above - this way proposed the compatible bare metal.
 

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