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Setup & Installation / Re: driver trouble with Warp 3
« on: May 07, 2014, 07:39:13 am »
Hi Mathais,
I'm beginning to suspect that IBM put out a version with a few extras for what you've got there. My thinking is that for XR?3000 on syslevel.os2 and syslevel.mpm normally means you've got the original OS/2 Warp (non-connect) version (see the previous CSD level below).
However I also note that you have a couple of items that normally only get installed if you've got the Warp Connect or Warp Server version, specifically:
Normally these show up on the Connect version after you've installed MPTS, although the version of the "IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support" is the version that was in Warp Server (the version of Warp Server built on top of Warp 3). It isn't all that big a deal though - it'll all work together.
Have a look at your install CD and see if you've got folder:
\cid\img\tcpip
or
\cid\img\tcpapps
(something to do with tcp in the cid\img folder on the install CD).
If you do have this, then in there you should find an install .exe file, this will install the full TCP/IP stack, as opposed to the Internet Access Kit you found in the bonuspack. Go ahead and install that version of TCP/IP, it should have a full stack in it.
Here's a little background of what's going on (history lesson time!). At the time that Warp 3 was released, IBM put out Warp with the Bonuspack, which included stuff like the internet access kit, IBM Works, that software to access Compuserve, and a few other items. The internet access kit in the Bonuspack was based on an older version of TCP/IP - Version 2.0 which had been developed for the older OS/2 version 2.x. But it wasn't the full stack - it was a more crippled version - missing some stuff, and limited to only accessing the internet via dialup modem. As a side note, Warp 3 at the time also had a flaky-buggy serial port driver which worked on some modems / ports, but not on others. This led in part to the popularity of Ray Gwinn's SIO driver (which always seemed to work), and also added to some of the early complaints about OS/2 Warp being difficult to install and not always working properly with hardware, but that's a different story.
Fast forward a month or two from the initial release and IBM releases Warp 3 Connect, and then Warp Server (and eventually Warp Server Advanced). Warp 3 Connect was Warp 3 with the LAN stuff added (MPTS, IBM Peer, TCP/IP). IBM released it with the newer TCP/IP 3.0 (which contained everything in the Internet Access Kit, plus a bunch of other stuff) and MPTS to be able to communicate over network cards. However (in its infinite wisdom of wanting to make things simpler maybe?) IBM continued to include in the box the same exact Bonuspack that was in the earlier (non-connect) version of Warp 3. This meant that you could install the newer (and better) TCP/IP Version 3 (which came with the Connect stuff) or you could install the older "Internet Access Kit" from the Bonuspack.
As for the client desktop version of Warp, even though they released a few updated versions of Warp 3, they didn't actually remove the Internet Access Kit from the Bonuspack until the release of Warp 4.
*end of history lesson*
Anyways, you should be okay installing the 32 bit MPTS as outlined in the earlier message, it includes the base 32 bit tcp/ip stuff to at least get network connectivity. I know there are versions of firefox which will run on Warp 3, although I can't recall what the latest one is that'll run. For Firefox you will need the 32 bit TCP/IP stack.
Or you can install the 16 bit MPTS - with the 16 bit version you'll for sure be able to run the old Netcape Communicator 4.61, although I'm not sure if there are any websites which will still work with that.
-Fahrvenugen
I'm beginning to suspect that IBM put out a version with a few extras for what you've got there. My thinking is that for XR?3000 on syslevel.os2 and syslevel.mpm normally means you've got the original OS/2 Warp (non-connect) version (see the previous CSD level below).
Quote
C:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2
IBM OS/2 Operating System
Version 3.00 Component ID 562260100
Type W
Current CSD-Level: XRGW040
Previous CSD-Level: XRG3000
C:\MMOS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.MPM
IBM Multimedia Presentation Manager/2
Version 3.00 Component ID 562137400
Current CSD-Level: XRGW040
Previous CSD-Level: XRG3000
However I also note that you have a couple of items that normally only get installed if you've got the Warp Connect or Warp Server version, specifically:
Quote
C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.MPT
IBM OS/2 TCP/IP Stack
Version 5.10 Component ID 5639B1700
Current CSD-Level: WR08400
Previous CSD-Level: WR08210
C:\IBMCOM\SYSLEVEL.TRP
IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support
Version 5.10 Component ID 5639A5700
Current CSD-Level: WR08400
Previous CSD-Level: WR08210
C:\MPTN\SYSLEVEL.DHC
IBM OS/2 Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Services
Version 4.00 Component ID 562290901
Current CSD-Level: WR08400
Previous CSD-Level: WR08210
Normally these show up on the Connect version after you've installed MPTS, although the version of the "IBM OS/2 LAN Adapter and Protocol Support" is the version that was in Warp Server (the version of Warp Server built on top of Warp 3). It isn't all that big a deal though - it'll all work together.
Have a look at your install CD and see if you've got folder:
\cid\img\tcpip
or
\cid\img\tcpapps
(something to do with tcp in the cid\img folder on the install CD).
If you do have this, then in there you should find an install .exe file, this will install the full TCP/IP stack, as opposed to the Internet Access Kit you found in the bonuspack. Go ahead and install that version of TCP/IP, it should have a full stack in it.
Here's a little background of what's going on (history lesson time!). At the time that Warp 3 was released, IBM put out Warp with the Bonuspack, which included stuff like the internet access kit, IBM Works, that software to access Compuserve, and a few other items. The internet access kit in the Bonuspack was based on an older version of TCP/IP - Version 2.0 which had been developed for the older OS/2 version 2.x. But it wasn't the full stack - it was a more crippled version - missing some stuff, and limited to only accessing the internet via dialup modem. As a side note, Warp 3 at the time also had a flaky-buggy serial port driver which worked on some modems / ports, but not on others. This led in part to the popularity of Ray Gwinn's SIO driver (which always seemed to work), and also added to some of the early complaints about OS/2 Warp being difficult to install and not always working properly with hardware, but that's a different story.
Fast forward a month or two from the initial release and IBM releases Warp 3 Connect, and then Warp Server (and eventually Warp Server Advanced). Warp 3 Connect was Warp 3 with the LAN stuff added (MPTS, IBM Peer, TCP/IP). IBM released it with the newer TCP/IP 3.0 (which contained everything in the Internet Access Kit, plus a bunch of other stuff) and MPTS to be able to communicate over network cards. However (in its infinite wisdom of wanting to make things simpler maybe?) IBM continued to include in the box the same exact Bonuspack that was in the earlier (non-connect) version of Warp 3. This meant that you could install the newer (and better) TCP/IP Version 3 (which came with the Connect stuff) or you could install the older "Internet Access Kit" from the Bonuspack.
As for the client desktop version of Warp, even though they released a few updated versions of Warp 3, they didn't actually remove the Internet Access Kit from the Bonuspack until the release of Warp 4.
*end of history lesson*
Anyways, you should be okay installing the 32 bit MPTS as outlined in the earlier message, it includes the base 32 bit tcp/ip stuff to at least get network connectivity. I know there are versions of firefox which will run on Warp 3, although I can't recall what the latest one is that'll run. For Firefox you will need the 32 bit TCP/IP stack.
Or you can install the 16 bit MPTS - with the 16 bit version you'll for sure be able to run the old Netcape Communicator 4.61, although I'm not sure if there are any websites which will still work with that.
-Fahrvenugen