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Hardware / Re: HD Audio not working on MSI A68HM-E33 Motherboard
« on: May 03, 2020, 06:36:43 am »
If you properly installed all of the USB audio package,you will be able to use OS/2 Multimedia Setup Object to select between different sound drivers as that normally is a bit unintuitive and tricky under OS/2. Your Behringer should also be supported as the USB audio package also contains support for the new USB audio 2.0 standard, including all the sample rates and bit resolutions that are in use today.
If you also install the USBWAV package, you will also be able to play Alaw,Mulaw,MS Adpcm files (and a few others) as they will be autoconverted to PCM format.

I use the UMC202HD on my main system, so getting that Sabrent thing was the best option for something cheap that works to use on the build i am running ArcaOS on.

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Hardware / Re: HD Audio not working on MSI A68HM-E33 Motherboard
« on: May 02, 2020, 06:13:13 pm »
I have no issues with it in Windows but then I hardly use it, I have a external USB audio interface (Behringer UMC202HD) I use most of the time as I do music production.

Thankfully this works great instead on AracOS w/  the Lars USB drivers: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sabrent-External-Adapter-Windows-AU-MMSA/dp/B00IRVQ0F8/ cheap and cheerful :)

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Poor quality in this case meaning crackles/pops/stutters. As to why this happens, I dont know ? I see it mentioned as being an issue for various Realtek ALC codecs for quite some time.

I have one of those. I haven't bothered to report it to Arca Noae, because it does the same thing in windows (not quite as bad). My sister has an identical machine, with the proper Realtek windows driver, and it is okay. From what I have been able to find out, there is an open input, that is not controlled, and that picks up any noise that may be nearby. The Realtek driver must have some way to turn it off, but that doesn't do us any good.

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Hardware / Re: USBDRV ?
« on: May 01, 2020, 07:07:02 pm »
Oh, that clears things up.. thanks.

Hi

About FAT32 USB Flash not working on ArcaOS, I got this little article: "Prepare the FAT32 USB Flash Drive".

Any other comments, updates, suggestions or techniques to prepare the FAT32 USB Flash drive for OS/2 are welcome.

Regard

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Hardware / Re: USBDRV ?
« on: May 01, 2020, 06:47:34 pm »
Hi Lars

Those install instructions are indeed there but they are buried at the bottom of the read me in the FAQ section and for the USB Audio steps they are displayed as a note at the top of the read me, not as an explicit install step. As a result I did not "see" the install instructions so I took an educated guess as to the installation method for the USB Driver and the USB Audio, which luclly seem to have been sucessfull.

Might I suggest the explicit install steps are the first thing in the Readme, including the steps for the USB audio component ?

I do have FAT32.IFS present. However FAT32 formatted USB sticks prepared on a Win10 machine via MiniTool Partition Wizard do not seem to work ?

1) there ARE installation instructions for the USB drivers, in particular also for the USB audio drivers. I suggest you read "readusb.txt". Actually, apart from the USB audio drivers, it's very simple: just unzip the whole ZIP to the root directory and allow files to be overwritten. As David has pointed out, before you do that do a :
unlock \os2\dll\*
unlock \mmos2\dll\*
to unlock DLLs that are in use. "unlock" is part of eCS or ArcaOS.
Then, you need to make sure that you actually load the USB drivers by adding to config.sys if not already done. This is all described in "readusb.txt", partly in the Q and A section.

For the audio drivers (usbaudio.zip) and the helper stuff (usbwav.zip) , as mentioned in "readusb.txt", unzip to a temporary directory, CHANGE TO THAT DIRECTORY, and run "minstall /*". Then, if asked, make selections.


2) how you do you expect a FAT32 formatted drive to be accessible if you don't have the FAT32.IFS file system driver installed ? Or do you have it installed ?

Without seeing your config.sys, it will be guesswork to help you.

Note: unimix does NOTHING to support your USB audio device. It's part of the UNIAUD drivers and not at all needed for the USB audio drivers.

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Hardware / Re: USBDRV ?
« on: May 01, 2020, 04:54:34 pm »
I did somehow manage to guess right what i needed to do re installing the USB Audio (and the Lars drivers overall) but there *really* should be instructions in the readme for this.

As of now when I plug in a 16GB USB drive with a single FAT32 partition it simply will not work, the device is detected and given a drive letter but trying to access that drive letter does .. nothing ? and this is after I have installed the Lars drivers, presumably correctly ? although due to the lack of instructions I can not be sure..

A couple of points.
You can mount an ISO by double clicking it. Unmount with the widget that looks like a house.
When installing something like the USB drivers, there's often a DLL that needs replaced that is in use. The command unlock x:\os2\dll\usbcalls.dll will load the DLL into memory so that it can be overwritten, a reboot will be required to use the new DLL
Run minstall /F:USBAUDIO.SCR (or use the full path) IIRC to install the audio drivers.
A FAT32 formatted drive should just work with Lars's drivers but generally sticks need partitioning and LVM info added to work on OS/2. Our FAT32 driver is still a bit flaky but being fixed, hopefully for AOS 5.0.5

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Hardware / Re: USBDRV ?
« on: May 01, 2020, 03:32:58 pm »
Managed to figure out I think how to install most of the Lars drivers, put the files in the respective folders on the destination file system ?

With the USBAUDIO drivers however it seems I have to do more then just copy files, but what is not clear at all ? i think it has something to do with a program called "minstall" but running this fails with the following error "C:\\control.scr Could not load file"

So anyone able to provide explicit instructions on how to verify the correct installation of the Lars USB drivers(I thought I could do this via its better USB storage support but a FAT32 formatted USB drive still does not work ?) and also how to install the USBAUDIO drivers ?

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Hardware / Re: USBDRV ?
« on: May 01, 2020, 02:04:46 pm »
I received that USB sound device today, plugged it in and nothing shows up in unimix -card list ?

This is on ArcaOS 5.04, stock drivers, zero modifications done to anything driver wise as yet.

Seems I need to install the USB Audio drivers from the ArcaOS install media or use Lars drivers..

First thing is the ArcaOS install media in my case is a USB stick with the ISO on it, so how to run the installer from that exactly ?

Second is Lars drivers do not include install instructions in the readme at all ? just change log and a small FAQ section ?


USB audio and WebCam work with Lars drivers and Arca Noae drivers 11.17. Arca Noae drivers 12.x do not yet have support for the USB functions required for audio or webcam.

USB audio works very well. If you are a long-time user, you may have to recall what good support looks like.

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Hardware / Re: HD Audio not working on MSI A68HM-E33 Motherboard
« on: May 01, 2020, 02:01:51 pm »
Poor quality in this case meaning crackles/pops/stutters. As to why this happens, I dont know ? I see it mentioned as being an issue for various Realtek ALC codecs for quite some time.
 
Do you have something like this in Config.Sys to select which adapter to use?

DEVICE=K:\MMOS2\UNIAUD32.SYS /A:1

Setting this manage to get audio working but it is very poor quality, apparently this is a know issue with the codec on this board :(

Why poor quality ?
You just select the correct audio adapter  (this is always the case when you audio has more than one adapter and the firs one doesn't work :D

follow instruction from here:
https://www.arcanoae.com/wiki/uniaud/debugging/

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Hardware / Re: USBDRV ?
« on: April 30, 2020, 02:22:06 am »
Happen to know if the USB Audio device i linked will work with the standard ArcaOS drivers as well as the USBDRV ones ?

I am a bit confused as to what USBDRV is that is mentioned here. is this a replacement for the stock ArcaOS USB drivers with better device support ?

I see it mentioned in particular for USB Audio.. and have ordered this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IRVQ0F8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 as this has been mentioned as working fine with USBDRV.

Someone able to clarify this for me ?

It is a different development tree. Better support for large sticks out of the box as OS/2 usually needs a partitioned stick and usually sticks look like a big floppy, which only usually works up to 2GB on OS/2. There's also better USB Audio support and IIRC better support for some asynchronous devices.
OTOH, only the ArcaOS drivers are supported by Arca Noae and only those are going to support USB3. Lars is pretty good about supporting his ones but doesn't have access to the ArcaOS source so they've diverged over the years since both branches started based on the sample code supplied by IBM.

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Hardware / USBDRV ?
« on: April 29, 2020, 09:24:09 pm »
I am a bit confused as to what USBDRV is that is mentioned here. is this a replacement for the stock ArcaOS USB drivers with better device support ?

I see it mentioned in particular for USB Audio.. and have ordered this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IRVQ0F8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 as this has been mentioned as working fine with USBDRV.

Someone able to clarify this for me ?





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Hardware / Re: HD Audio not working on MSI A68HM-E33 Motherboard
« on: April 29, 2020, 08:27:40 pm »
Do you have something like this in Config.Sys to select which adapter to use?

DEVICE=K:\MMOS2\UNIAUD32.SYS /A:1

Setting this manage to get audio working but it is very poor quality, apparently this is a know issue with the codec on this board :(

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Internet / Web Browser. which/where/how ?
« on: April 29, 2020, 08:26:16 pm »
I am somewhat confused as to what to download and how to set things up for the most modern web browser I can find as Firefox 38ESR just does not cut it:

https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/mozilla-os2/wiki/Home

And

https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/dry-comm-esr31/downloads/

Seem to be the options ?

Which of the many versions there do I download for ArcaOS ? and also the versions I have downloaded complain about various .dll errors so how to fix that ?

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Hardware / HD Audio not working on MSI A68HM-E33 Motherboard
« on: April 27, 2020, 11:40:14 pm »
Hi all,

Having an issue on this board whereby 2 "HD Audio" devices do appear in Hardware Manager drop down menu, but with no details on the Device tab when ether is selected(Name,Description,Vendor,Version) and no Audio works. I get the following in the Testlog:

Command line mixer for UNIAUD32. Version 1.1
Detected UNIAUD version 2.02.05
Detected 2 audio adapter(s)
Error: invalid number of PCM instances for adapter 0
Card info for adapter 0:
  num: 0
  id: Generic
  driver: HDA-Intel
  name: HD-Audio Generic
  longname: HD-Audio Generic at 0xfeb64000 irq 27
  mixer: ATI ID aa01
  componenets: HDA:1002aa01,00aa0100,00100500

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