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Hi Roderick.

This was an experiment I was doing with OS/2. Thanks for your comments (which now seems more constructive), but this is not a project or a thing will go on production, it is an experiment for my home and nobody wants to know what I'm doing (there is no interest), do not worry, be happy.

Please Roderick,  do not contact me in private to tell me that X or Y effort is a waste of time (In your Humble opinion), I'm not asking you to do it, don't take any of my crazy ideas I post personal. This is my hobbie and I choose how to waste my time.

Regards

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Events / Buy at Amazon and Help WarpStock
« on: June 10, 2015, 07:47:51 pm »
Hi.

There was a formal announcement long time ago, but I think it is a good time to remember the community this topic.

You can help WarpStock (USA)  to raise funds for the event by buying things at Amazon. It will not cost you anything.

1) The only thing you need to do is visit the link:
http://www.amazon.com/ref=as_li_wdgt_ex?&linkCode=wsw&tag=warpstockcorp-20

2) Shop everything from there.

Please, if you have someone on your family or friends that shops a lot at Amazon, please share the link  :)

Regards

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Hi.

I may be over sensitive since on my last experiment (moving the OS/2 paths) the some opinions was to try to stop me and do not waste time on that. And I needed to pull harder until some more people help me out to finish that experiment.

When I dare to post about my next experiment on a VM, that will really freak some out to a higher level. But I need to complete the EDM/2 Components page first.

Peace :)

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Hi Andi B.

I understood from the first day that there is a risk to have back leveled binaries of this drivers and that was not what I was requesting on the first post. I was asking for something experimental, and not for anybody to use under their freee will.

My issue is that the negativism of important people of the community is scaring/stopping people to assist me on my request for help. Please remember that I also need help like anybody on this community, and having people on my back that see only the negative side of what I post is not helping me.

On this case I thanks Andy for helping on this subject.

Regards

3695

So, I will like to know if someone is interested to create/build some "test-beta-AS IS- no support - under your own risk" drivers for "screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01" and turn them freeware for all use. I want to test a "non-IBM" produced drivers on my experimental VM.

Sorry, I keep reading my first post and I don't see the "monstrosity" that can be interpreted that I'm going to put a gun on the OS/2 community to use drivers based on old code.

Maybe some people thinks that releasing a driver as a freeware for all use (individual and commercial) is a crime on these days.

Regards

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Hi Dave

I already got help and Andy sent me the compiled the drivers that I'm going to test happily on my experimental VM. Sadly I do know have the knowledge to do that myself for the moment.

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You'd also maybe get a better reaction from the community if you started a thread "How to compile screen01" or such and it could be an interesting learning experience.
I agree with you on this, but I don't see anything "extreme/intimidating/" on my first post.

What is bursting out my nerves, is that when I ask for something, there are people that do not want to help and just want to discourage you to do anything by saying "it is not a priority" or "why do you want to do that, it is opening a can of worms". Like a told before to everyone, if it does not interest you, if it is not your priority, if you don't have anything to add, you are not forced to reply everything that shows up, just move to the next thread.

It is not like I said on my first post "THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE PRIORITY #1 TO THE COMMUNITY", no. Does it says "I WILL FORCE EVERYONE WITH MY MAGIC POWERS TO USE AN OLDER RELEASE OF THIS DRIVERS" ? no.  :) Let the people have stupid ideas, if you think they are stupid just ignore them, move on and be happy.

Regards

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Applications / USBLib (USBCalls, USBResmg, USBJoy) license?
« on: June 10, 2015, 02:17:57 am »
Hi

I need to solve this mystery (little mystery). I need to know which is the license (terms of use) of USBLib (USBCalls, USBResmg, USBJoy).

For what I read on netlabs ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/snapshots/usb/usb_20070121.zip the original author is Markus Montkowski and he released it under the "Aladdin Free Public License"

FYI:
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Aladdin Free Public License

The license was derived from the GNU General Public License, but differs on two key points:
- The source code must be included with any software distribution.
- The software may not be sold, including any fees involved with distribution.

From Wikipedia.

But checking the source code under /drivers/ directory there are code that is licensed by IBM. (It does not specify an IBM license, only AS IS).

So, I honestly do not know if the USBLib project should be under "Aladdin Free Public License" the whole package, or it is a project with different licenses.  I want to know if there had been license change with time approved by the author, or other authors by any chance.

Comments are welcome, but please don't ask "why do you want to know this?" it is obviously that I want to know which license applies to this project. I had a discussion some months ago with a community member that told me that it should not be "Aladdin Free Public License" but he failed to explain why.

Regards

 

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Roderick.

Change to other thread, discuss your priorities on other thread. This is not a priority, I'm not saying it is. This is my request for an experiment that I'm running that nobody cares and Andy already replied.

Go ahead and move on, enjoy your vacations.

Regards


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Hi Ian.

Sorry, but the discussion is shifting away.  screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01 are important drivers for the platform. The code may be old on the DDK, but it is the only thing we got. There is no way to port "screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01" from other platforms like it was network drivers.

Again, this is a experimental stuff on a VM that I'm making, I'm not forcing anybody to accept it or use them. But for the moment I take the following from this discussion:

1) There is a taboo about IBM DDK, everybody is scared about a license of use which nobody read.
2) There is a negative force on this forums when someone talks about device driver development and the IBM DDK.
3) We can make "Close source" collaborative projects on netlabs with IBM DDK code, Lars is doing it.
4) Drivers based on IBM DDK code can be turned into "Freeware", that is demonstrated for years on the OS/2 market and community.

I'm still looking for someone to compile screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01 and send it over to me to experiment. Those drivers are key for OS.

Regards

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Roderick, just move the next thread and ignore me if you don't like or support the idea.

Roderick, I'm not saying that IBM DDK can be open source, I'm saying that binaries created with DDK code can be freeeware.

It seems to be a status quo on driver development on the platform that when I ask something related to the IBM DDK, everybody wants to shut me up. I only suggested to built a driver for an experimental use, that's all, but it seems Taboo to a lot of people.

What is going on? Is driver development a secret mystery that is only for the "chosen one" ? Please if you don't support this move to the next thread.

I still need to know if there is interest on someone to built a freeware release of "screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01".

Regards

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Hi Lars.

"You are just opening a can of worms." I have hear that comment lately too much :)
It is kind of strange that people don't want to talk about some things in public, or just quickly dismiss all ideas.... it is like someone is whispering at the community ears individually. Is someone else calling you on the background like it is happening to me?

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What's the point in building drivers from the DDK sources and releasing them as freeware ?
I need to know how far is last source code level that we have for screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01 compared to the latest version of OS/2 Warp and eComStation, and if it keeps working on our current OS/2 or not.

If IBM did changed to screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01 and never released the source code on IBM DDK, that binary software is abandoned without possibilities to be improved. We need to grab the latest source code for "screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01" and make it up to date and possible make a community close source project, just like you are doing with the USB Drivers.

Those drivers are key for the kernel: http://www.edm2.com/index.php/OS/2_Kernel#Files

I like open source and screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01 are not and can not be. We have the source code form IBM but it is under the DDK license, so freeware version of this products can be legally released and use as an alternative since we can not open source it.

If someone wants to help me on this experiment is welcome to contact me or discuss on this forum, if not, move on the next thread.

Regards

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Sergey, do the drivers works on eCS / OS/2 Warp 4.5, or only works for OS/4 ?

Regards

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Applications / IBM DDK Drivers - screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01
« on: June 09, 2015, 12:03:12 am »
Hi

Checking the IBM DDK license I can say that:
* The source code of DDK (IBM Code) can not be open sourced.
* DDK Customers can create freeware version (not open source) of the "screen01, kbdbase, clock01" since it is part of the "IBM Code" on those CDs.

So, I will like to know if someone is interested to create/build some "test-beta-AS IS- no support - under your own risk" drivers for "screen01, kbdbase, clock01, print01" and turn them freeware for all use. I want to test a "non-IBM" produced drivers on my experimental VM.

(Maybe it is already done, I know that a freeware print01 is on hobbes)

Regards

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Events / Re: Review: Warpstock EU 2015 - The Saturday
« on: June 08, 2015, 02:44:59 pm »
Thank you very much for sharing Sigurd.

Can I have your permission to include your pictures on the OS2World Picture Gallery? If you have more pictures please let me know, you can send it over to martiniturbide@gmail.com.

Regards

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I just read that when you run REGEDIT2, it will run automatically REGCONV.EXE to create a fresh SYSTEM.DAT and USER.DAT if those files are missing.

Regards

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