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General Discussion / Re: Help transforming INF to PDF
« on: April 09, 2015, 11:55:41 pm »
Thanks Sergey, but I need the latest one that I was able to find transformed to PDF:

16/10/2000  16:14           232.941 addendum.inf
04/10/2001  14:26         1.012.558 alpref.inf
04/10/2001  14:27         1.296.377 cp1.inf
04/10/2001  14:27         1.181.572 cp2.inf
04/10/2001  14:27           279.099 cp3.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           197.648 dnal1mst.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           149.374 dpil1mst.inf
04/10/2001  14:27            19.502 gpi1.inf
04/10/2001  14:27         1.196.951 gpi2.inf
04/10/2001  14:27           872.737 gpi3.inf
04/10/2001  14:28         1.087.894 gpi4.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           895.769 ipfref.inf
04/10/2001  14:28           626.544 mmapg.inf
04/10/2001  14:28           420.276 mmref1.inf
04/10/2001  14:28           921.151 mmref2.inf
04/10/2001  14:28           935.582 mmref3.inf
04/10/2001  14:28           800.265 mmsspg.inf
04/10/2001  14:32            72.642 nmake32.inf
04/10/2001  14:32            68.777 oglbase.inf
04/10/2001  14:27           473.247 open32.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           497.829 pdguide.inf
04/10/2001  14:30           673.559 pm1.inf
04/10/2001  14:30         1.271.373 pm2.inf
04/10/2001  14:30         1.351.092 pm3.inf
04/10/2001  14:30           886.668 pm4.inf
04/10/2001  14:30           504.379 pm5.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           263.658 pmbdtech.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           111.920 rc16.inf
04/10/2001  14:29           305.672 rexxpg.inf
04/10/2001  14:29         3.595.100 sg244640.inf
04/10/2001  14:31           655.236 somguide.inf
04/10/2001  14:31           815.550 somref.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           995.548 srvfpgr.inf
16/10/2000  16:27           582.952 tcppr.inf
05/01/2004  13:54           569.018 toolsref.inf
04/10/2001  14:31           212.771 usetlkt.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           185.183 winsoc11.inf
04/10/2001  14:31           362.010 wps1.inf
04/10/2001  14:31         1.183.465 wps2.inf
04/10/2001  14:31           311.799 wps3.inf
04/10/2001  14:31           883.362 wpsguide.inf
04/10/2001  14:32           775.323 xpg4ref.inf

Those are the ones from the OS/2 Toolkit 4.5.

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General Discussion / Help transforming INF to PDF
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:42:04 pm »
Hi

I'm giving up for the moment to install CUPS to try to convert some INF to PDF. I will try it some months later when I have more time, right now I can't.

This is why I'm requesting some help to convert this INFs files from the IBM OS/2 toolkit to PDF. This is because I want to ask permission to be distribuited it and include some content on the EDM/2 Wiki, and INF is not a readable format for them (the layers) and I don't want to send it on HTML because it will be a mess.

I have the OS2TK45 docs files dated (2001/04/10). I guess those are the latest ones.

Please contact me by email if you can help me out transforming this files.

Regards

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General Discussion / Re: Haiku OS and its Niche.
« on: April 09, 2015, 05:12:13 pm »
Why do you think a lot of people want to play with replacement components which for sure will have a lot more bugs and incompatibilities when you do not even find the testers for much more advanced projects? Why do you think a broader audience is willing and qualified to develop, document, make install packages and test a replacement component when we do not even have the man power to support running projects like AOO, Firefox, Seamonkey, Apache, all the ported QT apps..... ?

Those are not questions, only excuses to not try it. "Reality Check" is new wording for "Defeated without trying".  We need a strategy for the future of this platform, the platform does not attract new users because we don't show a future or an attement to have a future.

We always discuss it and always see this two ways of thinking::
1) Think about a future of the platform.
2) Remain as a legacy and live of the good memories, and just take whatever it comes.
(Maybe there are other in the middle)

I prefer the first one. The ones that prefer the second, just move on to the next thread, nobody is judging.

For the moment I'm just in search for the people that want to have a future with this platform. I don't want to find people that wants to code it all, I just want someone that wants to make little steps like the ones I'm doing on OS2World and on EDM/2.

Regards.

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General Discussion / Re: Haiku OS and its Niche.
« on: April 09, 2015, 03:43:43 pm »
Hi

Take notice that Linux was a clone of Unix, and that the first versions of linux (GNU Linux, the whole package) sucked so bad as the other open OSes that we are discussing. The first version of Linux was unstable and not recommeded for serious works (and should no be used in anger too :) ), later it was told it was a OS for geeks, that it was so compliated and that lacked of software, now a version of Linux is running in each Android phone. The same architecture of the old Unix (1996) and Linux kernel (1991), with some tweaks, is running today. Maybe Linux has evolved from Unix, but the key was to be open source and not depending on a single vendor.

So, to be it is better to have a OS that sucks that is open source, that an OS that is good but the author no longers developes it. Why? Because there is a forth dimension called "time". By being open source an crappy software can be converted into something stable. By being close source when the developer/company runs out of money or will, the software will be stored in a drawer without any possibility to evolve.

I was told by some guy "Good Software gives you a User Community, bad open source software gives you a Developer Community".

Since we are in the OS/2 community, and we are want to have a future with the same experience we have using this platform (I guess that is the idea), I promote the idea of cloning OS/2 as open source. I know it is now as simple as it sounds, maybe it will be simpler to switch to an OSS OS, but that will be to easy and without fun, right?

So, do not worry if it an open OS/2 will suck at first, that is part of the evolution of open source software. But we have an advantage over HaikuOS and others. We still have eCS that is being sold so we can try to replace the close source components little by little on eComStation until we get a full replacement. We don't need one "big bang" change, we can go giving little steps to replace PM, SOM, CPI, etc... file by file if it is necessary.  Or if someone wants a "Big bang" change with open source and OS/2 we can also give it try :)

But what I need right now is users and developers with the interest of talking a look under the hood and see what can be replaced.

Regards

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General Discussion / Re: Microsoft to Open Source Windows?
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:06:52 pm »
Maybe it will not happen, since it based on this single Microsoft executive phrase.

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“It’s definitely possible,” Russinovich says. “It’s a new Microsoft.”

I love to speculate, but if this happens I don't think it will change the OS/2-eCS current position. IBM will hold on to OS/2's source code and there is not business case that can motivate IBM to share it.

I think it maybe worst for us, since it will make Windows a more desirable platform since it can be free of charge (if it is open sourced in a proper way without tricks).

Personally I don't MS will Open Source Windows at this time, but who knows. MS Executives may be trying to take long shots into the future to don't allow Windows to loose more space.

Regards

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General Discussion / Re: The Mascot
« on: April 08, 2015, 04:43:00 pm »
...and I know you all want "Artie-Borg" or something like "Artietus of Borg".

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General Discussion / Re: Haiku OS and its Niche.
« on: April 08, 2015, 02:48:37 pm »
- MenuetOS - GNU GPL - last update: 07.04.2015  0.99.96
- KolibriOS - ( MenuetOS Fork) GNU GPL - last update: 5 apr 2015
...and notice that I'm just checking non-linux based OSes.

Why those OSes which has less software, less corporate customers and less community organization than this plaform, has the will and the muscle to develop an open source OS and we don't? Where is the millionaire sponsoring them? Did they stole a bank? Why they don't say that it is imposible to make an OS with their hands? Where is the magic? Where is the trick?

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General Discussion / Haiku OS and its Niche.
« on: April 06, 2015, 06:02:05 pm »
Today I was reading Haiku OS efforts to find a niche are working.

They are now being included as a "Radio Automation Software" called "Command Center":
http://www.tunetrackersystems.com/about_haiku.html

We can debate if it is a good niche or not, but I found it very interesting to see how an OS (that was in a worst position than OS/2 and that never really got a huge market) is fighting to became adopted.

Today OS/2's niche are the companies that has a "Legacy OS/2 Application" and that to migrate away from OS/2 will cost more than buying eCS. But that niche is only temporary, we need to find new niches for this platform.  But it is hard to compete with other platforms like Windows, that has a huge marketplace, and with Linux and other open source OSes that has the added-value to do not depend on a single vendor.

If today someone invest on a "solution" that runs on eCS people will ask about... What about the OS? Who is developing it? I understand that IBM is not maintaining it...Who has the source code?  ... those all are logical/rational/realistic questions, and are a blocker when you want to create a solution for OS/2 to find a new niche. You don't want to put your business to run on a OS that if something breaks you don't have the source code to fix it and the one who has the source code no longer mains it.

I still insist that open sourcing OS/2 (cloning it) will allows us to do more. It will give us more users that want to experiment with the platform and eventually we will get business solutions to get into niche. If we wait to clone OS/2 after all the "legacy corporate" customers migrate to other platform it will be even harder to accomplish it. Today it is required not to only port more OSS to OS/2-eCS, but also to start thinking on the things that are inside the hood.

When people says it will be impossible to clone OS/2, I ask them to check ReactOS and Haiku OS, they are doing a very interesting progress on their own.

Regards


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General Discussion / Re: Wired article on OS/2 Nun adverts
« on: April 04, 2015, 01:56:54 pm »
Hi.

It is good that Wired remembers OS/2, but sadly it does not even mention what the OS/2 community is doing today.

I just put my comments on that article.

Thanks for sharing Paul.

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General Discussion / Re: The Mascot
« on: April 03, 2015, 03:44:08 am »
Hi Gregg

I just set up the "World Image" as favicon, but any other suggestion is welcome.

Regards

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Off Topic discussions / Re: April Fool's Jokes.
« on: April 02, 2015, 05:51:26 pm »
Nice. I'm using Google Translate to read it:

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How cool - that I may live to see! IBM has announced to release a new OS / 2 version. Under the code name "Ferengi", the system will appear at the end of the year.

The system should have improved hardware support, a pre-loaded and native IBM office, an NT box (compatible with Anwedungen to Win 8.1), completely redesigned multimedia components and a whole new desktop called "TransWarp" with live electronic gadgets, freeform windows, transparencies, etc. , The system should also run on smartphones and tablet computers, as well as Raspberry Pi! There should also be a special Arbanbanduhr is 2 v5 installed on the OS /. For a Drag and Drop enabled PIM is to be developed, which can be fully operated without a mouse. There are rumors that IBM for working on a neural user interface.

The compatibility with old applications to be maintained according to a press officer.

More information, screenshots, etc. can be found here at IBM.

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Off Topic discussions / April Fool's Jokes.
« on: April 01, 2015, 09:59:05 pm »
Hi

I'm not too much into this tradition, but it seems to be fun to read all the crazy scifi stuff from slashdot as news:
http://slashdot.org/

So, we also need some OS/2 jokes around:
1) Google+: OS/2 Rebound

2) Slashdot: Bill Gates Donates 1M to Open Source OS/2

It is nice to see some humor around.

Regards

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General Discussion / Re: The Mascot
« on: March 31, 2015, 12:06:16 am »
..and the always important "Mascot In-A-Box".

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General Discussion / Re: The Mascot
« on: March 30, 2015, 07:08:45 pm »
Here are some pics.


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General Discussion / Re: The Mascot
« on: March 30, 2015, 06:54:04 pm »
Yes, it is based on a public domain cartoon elephant, since we don't have money to hire a graphic designer :)

Let's see how it goes, maybe on the future we can get an update to Artie.

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