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Applications / Re: Issue with lSwitcher
« on: February 04, 2021, 09:41:40 pm »
There are two ways to run lSwitcher. One is by a program, and the other is as a widget in XCenter. Do NOT attempt to run both at the same time (best to not even install both, at the same time). You need to manually select which way you want to run it, when you get to the list of install options. Neither one is selected by default.

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Applications / Re: VirtualBox 5.0.51 networking
« on: February 04, 2021, 09:36:40 pm »
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Can anyone remember how to change that 10.xxx.xxx.xxx subnet to a 192.xxx.xxx.xxx subnet?  Otherwise I will have to revert an old computer back to XP rather than dumping it to make more room

In the VBox Network settings, I use:
Attached to: NAT
Name: <blank>
Under Advanced:
Adapter type: Intel Pro /1000 MT...  (You DO need to have the driver ready to install in XP)
Promiscuous mode defaults to Deny
Mac address is created by VBox.

When I boot XP, it queries my router, and gets a DHCP address. It has been a while since I tried, but I think this configuration will NOT "talk" to the host machine, but it will "talk" to the other machines on the network (should include a NAS). Use the Shared folders feature to "talk" to the host machine.

You can use Bridged network, to "talk" to the host machine, as well as the rest of the network, but that requires the ancient TAP driver. It works, but will slow your whole network to a crawl.

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Storage / Re: DANIS506 - SATA III capable or not?
« on: February 02, 2021, 10:54:17 pm »
I'm with Dave. If the controller is SATA capable, and it actually supports SATA in AHCI mode (some very old ones don't), use the AHCI driver. Why would you would even consider doing otherwise?

Just add the OS2AHCI driver to config.sys (before the Dani driver), then go to BIOS, and set it to use AHCI. I use the "/N /F" parameters, on every SATA capable machine (including VBox), but you may want to see if it works before adding parameters.

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Multimedia / Re: Updated Uniaud32 build
« on: January 31, 2021, 09:33:16 pm »
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This *might* help fix a reported problem with system sounds interrupting a MP3 stream and not resuming correctly, which is a regression from the 2.02 driver.

I find that it takes more system sounds to trigger the problem, but it still happens.

Run PM123, and play something. then open a window that has scroll bars. Click to move out of the window. It makes a sound. try that a few more times, allowing the sound to finish. That seems to work, at least for a few tries. Now, click fast enough to start a new sound, before the first sound has finished playing, and it will lock the desktop. The mouse won't even move. Reset is required.

Now, an interesting thing: If I restart the desktop (without locking it), sounds come back. Sometimes, it seems to be okay (until the next restart). Sometimes, it is worse than before.

When it locks, there is a POPUPLOG associated:
Code: [Select]
01-31-2021  12:51:57  SYS3175  PID 01b1  TID 0002  Slot 0060
C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
c0000005
1f0aa7a5
P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX 
EAX=00000002  EBX=00000004  ECX=00000000  EDX=004bb82c
ESI=00000004  EDI=00381be8 
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=9fffffff 
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=9fffffff 
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1f0aa7a5  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=9fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:004bb8d8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=9fffffff
EBP=004bb910  FLG=00010206

MMPM.DLL 0001:0007a7a5

There is also a process dump, which shows this:
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IBM OS/2 Dump Formatter for a retail or an hstrict SMP kernel.
Formatter is --> Internal revision 14.106_SMP
Dump file is --> Internal revision 14.202_SMP (process dump)
 
Symbol (c:\os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp45_s\os2krnlr.sym) linked
Symbol (c:\os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp45_s\pmctls.sym) linked
Symbol (c:\os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp45_s\pmwp.sym) linked
Symbol (c:\os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp45_s\pmspl.sym) linked
Symbol (c:\os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp45_s\pmviop.sym) linked
Symbol (c:\os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp45_s\pmmerge.sym) linked
Symbol (c:\os2\pdpsi\pmdf\warp45_s\doscall1.sym) linked
 
Current slot number: 0060
 
 Slot  Pid  Ppid Csid Ord  Sta Pri  pTSD     pPTDA    pTCB     Disp SG Name
*0060# 01b1 001d 01b1 0002 run 0800 f705f000 fcf477d0 fce91b98 06c4 1a PMSHELL
 
eax=00000002 ebx=00000004 ecx=00000000 edx=004bb82c esi=00000004 edi=00381be8
eip=1f0aa7a5 esp=004bb8d8 ebp=004bb910 iopl=0 rf -- -- nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=005b ss=0053 ds=0053 es=0053 fs=150b gs=0000 cr2=00000000 cr3=00000000 p=00
005b:1f0aa7a5 ff7108         push      dword ptr [ecx+08]   ds:00000008=invalid
#
Loading version data ... please wait
Loading Process Information ... please wait


Loading structure info for WSeB/ACP SMP ... please wait.
....Structure definition file (warp45_s\kernel.sdf) loaded.
....Structure definition file (warp45_s\shell.sdf) loaded.
Done.
 
#
                        TRAP SCREEN INFORMATION


------------------------------------------------------------
Trap screen 1 found at address #70:989c
This screen is most likely related to a previous trap.

P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX   
CS:EIP=005b:1f0aa7a5  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=9fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:004bb8d8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=9fffffff
EBP=004bb910  FLG=00010206
EAX=00000002  EBX=00000004  ECX=00000000  EDX=004bb82c
ESI=00000004  EDI=00381be8   
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=9fffffff   
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=9fffffff   
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=*******
 
No Symbols Found
#

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Trap screen 2 found at address #70:9c84

P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX   
EAX=00000002  EBX=00000004  ECX=00000000  EDX=004bb82c
ESI=00000004  EDI=00381be8   
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=9fffffff   
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=9fffffff   
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:1f0aa7a5  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=9fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:004bb8d8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=9fffffff
EBP=004bb910  FLG=0001020

ASCII found at #70:9c84-12 is c0000005 (Exception Code?)
c0000005:  System Encountered an access violation

ASCII found at #70:9c84-9 is 1f0aa7a5. (Linear Address?)

ASCII found after trap screen: (Module name Object:Offset?)
MMPM.DLL 0001:0007a7a5
No Symbols Found

 
#

The dump is about 2.5 GB. I can get it to you, if you think it will help.

I am doing this on my Asus A88XN-A machine (AMD A6 processor), but I get similar results on my Lenovo ThinkPad L530 (Intel based).

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Applications / Re: PMMail Where to buy
« on: January 29, 2021, 09:52:05 pm »
Go to: http://pmmail.os2voice.org/index.php?title=PMMail_for_OS/2

You can download the program, and try it. There is a newer version at; ftp://pmdevpub@ftp.os2voice.org/. but it is still time limited (120 days). Pick the newer one.

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Multimedia / Re: Desktop weirdness
« on: January 23, 2021, 07:07:08 am »
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That is what I and Rich described.

Pretty much. You did miss the part where the power supply quit working part way through trying to figure out what was going on. That complicated the whole thing somewhat.   8)

Templates seem to be okay, so far.

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Multimedia / Re: Desktop weirdness
« on: January 22, 2021, 10:52:18 pm »
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Cleanini, and CHECKINI, did nothing to fix the problem, although CHECKINI did identify bad startup folders (the ones that were popping up).

Okay, it seems that something more needs to be cleaned from the INI files, to reduce the possibility that this will happen. It is being looked at.

If you do experience the problem, you may be able to fix it (I did). WARNING: the following instructions can lead to disaster, if you get it wrong. BACKUP first (but don't replace a possibly good backup).

Open the registry editor. Drill down to: HINI_USER_PROFILE\PM_Workplace:Startup

There should normally be only one entry. <A Hex number>="Y"

If there is more than one (I had 3), you need to figure out which one is the good one (in my case, it was the last one). In ArcaOS, there is OO.EXE (I think this is available elsewhere) which will show some information about the entries. It does require a modification to the listed hex numbers (which are folder IDs). If the number is 1F0, you need to use 301F0, if it is 8792, you need to use 38792. In my case, the last number is 8792, so:
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[C:\DESKTOP]OO /i 38792
38792  <WP_START>  WPStartup  "C:\Desktop\Computer\Startup"
The key here is "C:\Desktop\Computer\Startup". That one is the proper startup folder. I had two others that showed different things. Only one of them actually opened as a startup folder. The other was a *.CMD file. When you find out which one is the proper entry, right mouse click on the others, and Delete them. Close the registry editor, and reboot. The problem should be gone. If not, it is possible that the INI file got auto saved, before you got it rebooted. try again.

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Applications / Re: PMMail questions.
« on: January 21, 2021, 07:52:29 pm »
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I set it up like i thought it would work

That won't work. Port 993 is the secure channel port for IMAP. The unsecured port is 143. PMMail only knows about POP servers unsecured port 110 (IMAP and POP are completely different protocols). PMMail uses STunnel to translate unsecure connections (port 110) to secure connections (port 995).

The SMTP part should be okay for IMAP, since they still use port 587 for sending messages, but I would expect that any client that knows IMAP, probably doesn't need STunnel.

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Part of my challenge here is that I have an old Warp4 => CP2 => SMP => "whatever it is now" wonder setup... ;D, and while it works nearly 99% of the time (especially now that I finally got my CPU core issue resolved), it still does have some left-over warts and blisters here and there!

If you have it working 99%, you are doing well.

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Point being, my OS/2 installation today has at least a couple of decades of software on it, there is no way I'm going to move to a fresh OS install such as AOS, not even remotely possible.

It is easier than you think, and getting rid of decades of garbage is well worth the effort, but that is your choice. The main thing, is to separate the OS from the programs/data, so you can update the OS part, without making changes to the programs/data. If Arca Noae manages to get UPDATE from Warp 4.5 working, you may be able to do it that way, but I suspect that older systems are going to have way too much garbage in them, to make it possible.

What I do, is have two boot volumes. One is the current one, and the other is the previous one, where I install a new one, then get it working, while still using the current one. After the new one is working, I switch, and the new one becomes current, while the old one waits for the next update. It is also useful as a "maintenance" volume.

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Applications / Re: Arca 5.0.6 - lost status bar!
« on: January 21, 2021, 07:04:57 pm »
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    Clicking on "View" shows menu bar active, but status bar is greyed out!


Quite true. It is greyed out on my system too, for the desktop (probably for a good reason). Other folders seem to have that enabled, and it does show/hide the individual folder status bar. The menu Bar is at the top, and probably shouldn't be allowed on the desktop either. I need to see what the experts have to say about that.

Apparently, the Menu Bar is something that IBM did. The Status Bar is part of XWP. Two different designs, so two different settings. The Status Bar does not apply to the desktop. It should be available in other folders, if it is enabled globally, and each folder can have it enabled, or disabled.

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Applications / Re: PMMail questions.
« on: January 21, 2021, 03:24:42 am »
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It's working now

Good...

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If i wanne add a other imap account do i use the real server port 587 and 995 but in the local port i fill in like 2587 and 2995 ?

Well, PMMail doesn't know about IMAP, so you would need to use a different program. The different program may, or may not, need STunnel to work. The IMAP port is not either of those (although you would probably still use 587 for sending mail). If I remember correctly, IMAP uses port 143 to fetch mail.

I wouldn't use 2xxx because those ports are probably already assigned. I use 5xxx, or 6xxx, which seems to be okay. If you look in C:\MPTN\ETC\services you will see an incomplete list of assigned (not necessarily used) ports. If there is a conflict, pick another port. They don't need to be anything like the suggested ports, but keeping them similar is easier to understand.

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Applications / Re: Arca 5.0.6 - lost status bar!
« on: January 21, 2021, 03:04:03 am »
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Thanks for the help, I've used up enough of your valueable time, I'll re- istall drive C:

Be sure to review the Arca Noae Wiki about  using VBox, at: https://www.arcanoae.com/wiki/arcaos/installation-planning/virtual-machine-configuration/oracle-vm-virtualbox/. There is a LOT of good information there. If your version of VBox doesn't quite match what is written, it is still a very good guide. Just use your best judgement about anything that doesn't quite match.

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Applications / Re: Arca 5.0.6 - lost status bar!
« on: January 20, 2021, 10:46:45 pm »
Each folder (the Drives folder, for example) has it's own Status Bar setting. Properties-> Menu-> page 2 near the bottom, but I don't think that is what you are talking about.

A picture might help us understand what you are looking for.

AH!, Going back to the first message:
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Clicking on "View" shows menu bar active, but status bar is greyed out!

Quite true. It is greyed out on my system too, for the desktop (probably for a good reason). Other folders seem to have that enabled, and it does show/hide the individual folder status bar. The menu Bar is at the top, and probably shouldn't be allowed on the desktop either. I need to see what the experts have to say about that.

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I looks like Virtual Box Guest Additions got de-installed!

That is in E:\CID\SERVER\ARCAPKG\VBOXADD.WPI (E: is the DVD drive). Just install it again.

Be sure that you have Desktop-> Properties-> XShutdown Shutdown DELAY checked on. Sometimes, (even on real hardware) the shutdown pulls the plug, before everything is saved to disk.

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Applications / Re: PMMail questions.
« on: January 20, 2021, 08:35:33 pm »
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I hope someone finds something...

The STunnel log indicates that it all happened as it should.

This section of logfile.log says PMMail successfully connected, found no messages, and closed the connection:
Code: [Select]
2021-01-19T21:03:29.825 (005)-I-pop_fetch: acct [Elbert & Nicole]
2021-01-19T21:03:29.825 (005)-I-ConnectionAcquire<001>: POP used/avail [1/8]. CPU priority [2]
2021-01-19T21:03:29.825 (005)-I-ConnectPOP: [account name here] connecting to server:port [localhost]:[110]
2021-01-19T21:03:29.827 (005)-I-ConnectPOP: hostname [localhost] -> [127.0.0.1]
2021-01-19T21:03:29.829 (005)-I-ConnectPOP: recv timeout [120]
2021-01-19T21:03:29.829 (005)-I-ConnectPOP: Connected. fd [7]
2021-01-19T21:03:29.878 (005)-I-pop_capabilities<001>: capa [0x00d54001]
2021-01-19T21:03:29.878 (005)-I-pop_logon<001>: enter
2021-01-19T21:03:30.671 (005)-I-PopRecvGetNumMess<001>: N mgs [0], size [0]
2021-01-19T21:03:30.671 (005)-I-PopRecvLogoff<001>: QUIT [Elbert & Nicole]
2021-01-19T21:03:30.792 (005)-I-ConnectionDisconnectPOP<001>: click. fd [7]
2021-01-19T21:03:30.792 (005)-I-pop_fetch: acct [Elbert & Nicole] exit
(I changed the name, for privacy).

What, exactly do you see, that makes you think it isn't working?

Don't forget, that you can send a message to yourself to test things.

It is also possible, that there is something not right in the GMail setup (but I would expect connection problems if that is wrong). Follow the POP3 instructions for Thunderbird, and it should get you there (at least it did, the last time I looked at it - something may have changed). You probably do need to tell GMail to accept "insecure" e-mail clients. again, I would expect a connection error, if that was wrong.

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Soooo....yeah, to this guy here it still feels like stuff is "all over the place"  ???

It probably is, since you have been doing that, for years.

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Therefore, I am curious what strategies (if any) have others developed to reconcile this stuff and create a better, perhaps more consistent configuration?

The EASY way, is to do a new ArcaOS install, and never do anything on your own. Let ANPM do it properly, for you. If you do find something that needs special stuff, put it all in it's own directory, and add paths to the END of the path statements, so that the proper stuff is found first (actually, that isn't true, because ANPM insists on the .; entry first, which tries to load things from the working directory. IMO, that is not a good idea, but others seem to think it is a good idea. If that doesn't work, remove the added paths, and use the Environment tab in the program icons (part of DragText - READ the instructions). You may also need to use LIBPATHSTRICT.

You can spend a lot of time trying to fix past sins, and still not get all of it. So far, I have not found any reason to add my own stuff, but I do use the Environment tab for a few things (not because of YUM). It can help to shorten the paths, by using a custom PATH, and BEGINLIBPATH/ENDLIBPATH adds to what is set in LIBPATH in CONFIG.SYS.

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I let the installers do all things for me.

That is the only safe way to do it. Theoretically, whoever built the installer, knows what is required, so it does it right (sometimes, that isn't exactly true, and sometimes, old installers don't know about newer requirements). One of the things, that old installers, will do, is add the PATH and LIBPATH statements to the beginning of the lines. Anybody who is building an installer should put the new stuff at the end, so you don't break something else. There is something wrong with your package, if it really does need to be first.

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After the ArcaOS installation, I point UNIXROOT to another drive with existing trees for \usr, \var and \etc.

I was doing that, so I could share the RPM/YUM install with another boot drive. I quit doing it because it was becoming an administration problem. There are just too many things that RPM/YUM does to individual boot drives, and sharing only knows about the boot drive that is active when you do the updates. It wouldn't be a problem, if you don't share with another boot drive.

Additionally, you really should point the installer to the existing drive, so it can do the necessary updates during install (especially if it is an UPDATE install).

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