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Title: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: David McKenna on June 03, 2023, 12:11:27 am
 Just installed - worked great once I figured out to have ACPI load before NVME in the installer (can't boot NVME on this machine in CSM mode). It has a new Kernel too, although I can't find any info about what is new in it...

Regards,
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Dave Yeo on June 03, 2023, 01:03:59 am
The kernel has some memory fixes, mostly for certain UEFI systems with fragmented memory IIRC.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Martin Iturbide on June 03, 2023, 06:27:02 am
Hi

For the moment everything is working fine here. I installed it on a VM (VirtualBox). Maybe this weekend I will try to update my Thinkpad L420.

Regards
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Rick Smith on June 03, 2023, 06:28:47 pm
In order to upgrade is a reinstall necessary? Or is there an upgrade path for arca?

Thank You

Rick
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: David McKenna on June 03, 2023, 06:37:00 pm
Rick,

  You can update... one of the early pages in the install has an option for update if it detects an install of ArcaOS (but not eCS or Warp). In my case, I had to put the AHCI driver ahead of the NVME driver in the pre-install menu to get it to detect my ArcaOS install. Not sure why they put the NVME in front of AHCI, but they did...

Regards,
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Tiny Frogware on June 03, 2023, 09:33:14 pm
Just updated my Acer Aspire Ultrabook with the new 5.0.8 release and the update went fine and everything seems to be running as good as ever.

Thanks,

  Tony.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Holger Schuett on June 04, 2023, 12:24:28 am
Hi, installed the new release today but ran in a lot of trouble.
So first question here: did anyone try a fresh install on real hardware with snap choosen as video driver.
I tried to install on an lenovo x201s with snap but in the second phase of the installation the system constantly crashe. Seems to be a problem with snap. I was able to install using gengradd, then installed snap from the iso, same crash. Switched back to VGA, then installed snap from a previous version, worked?
As the x201s seems a little bit tricky I would like to know if anyone else has the same problem before opening a ticket.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Roderick Klein on June 04, 2023, 08:04:48 pm
If you do not run SNAP use Panorama and not Gengradd. Panorama provides better performance.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on June 04, 2023, 08:32:36 pm
On fresh installs on all my B550 based boards I get through the Ist phase and then it rebooted and the screen is dark with a blinking cursor in the upper left side.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Holger Schuett on June 04, 2023, 10:35:53 pm
Quote
If you do not run SNAP use Panorama and not Gengradd. Panorama provides better performance.
Hi Roderick,
I know performance is better with panorama but there are other reasons for me to use snap:
This is a laptop and power management is bad enough with arcaos ( as it was with ecs too). So unsing snap at least gives me some possibilities, for example DPMS and the option to turn off the screen after a while. Withe the last release of arcaos I was able to dim the screen with fn +function keys (Acpi related I guess). I don not do to many things which would need a better vidoe performance.
Apart from this the question is why I am not longer able to install using snap although snap can be selected as vidoe driver in the setup.

Holger





Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Sean Casey on June 05, 2023, 12:06:19 am
My upgrade from 5.0.7 halted on the first reboot with an error my config.sys LIBPATH statement wasn't acceptable.  After removing my application directories, the upgrade continued.   

After the upgrade completed, booting produced errors with USBMOUSE.SYS and USBKBD.SYS not loading due to the USBHID driver not being found.  Both of these drivers had been added to the tail of my config.sys.  Since I am not using serial but rather USB mode for my mouse and keyboard, I have removed these from my config.sys. 

Everything now appears to be working fine.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Dave Yeo on June 05, 2023, 01:31:31 am
Hi Holger, the versions of Panorama and Doodles Screensaver in 5.0.8 support DPMS to turn off the screen
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on June 05, 2023, 07:54:30 pm
Well as far as the upgrade went to my AsRock B450 HDV turned out to be far less than perfect. Thunderbird wil not run, Oen Office will not run, Filestar and Unimaint wil not run Dooble wil not run. I am goig back to 5.07 for the time being. Back up back up back up.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Holger Schuett on June 05, 2023, 08:43:58 pm
Hi Holger, the versions of Panorama and Doodles Screensaver in 5.0.8 support DPMS to turn off the screen

Hi Dave,
thank you for the hint. I was brave enough to install panorama, and yes it works like you said. Still would like to be able to dim the screen using fn+ function keys like before. So have to consider what to do. Do you know whether the knew kernel is supported by older previous acpi versions?

Holger
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Dave Yeo on June 05, 2023, 09:32:05 pm
Hi Holger, IIRC, it will give a warning about unsupported kernel but work.

Hi Eugene, sounds like you have to install some stuff with ANPM, though TB should have all its prerequisites. Anything in popuplog.os2
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on June 05, 2023, 09:56:09 pm
David, That is my impression that the update did not update some of the dlls with it. but that does not explain the Filestar and Unimaint being unable to boot, which are native OS/2 applications. My next move is to attempt the install to a NVME drive. It will be native on the same machine that I installed 5.07 to. I wil keep this drive in the system if successful and rebuild.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Greg Pringle on June 06, 2023, 04:41:50 pm
On fresh installs on all my B550 based boards I get through the Ist phase and then it rebooted and the screen is dark with a blinking cursor in the upper left side.

I was loading an Asus x570-PLUS with the same situation. The way it worked was to use the bios to set the boot device to the USB and then on first reboot change the boot device back to the boot drive. I also had to change the ACPI line in the config.sys to remove the /VW before the first reboot for the install to see the USB. This was new behavior from earlier versions.

On my system with 7 sata connections I had to remove all the sata connections except the boot drive sata connection for the install to recognize drive C:   Once installed the other sata connections were connected again and worked. This was the same as earlier versions.

Another new item was the ArcaOS splash screen last a lot longer than in the past.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: christech on June 06, 2023, 05:06:53 pm
So far so good with me. I'm running it on a Dell Precision T3610 workstation. Now both of my Win/OS2 session works. I can't get the DOS window to work, but DOS full screen works. Also DPMS is working now, which is nice. I was able to open Firefox and Lotus SmartSuite with no issues.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on June 06, 2023, 05:15:37 pm
Thanks Greg I will give it a try.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: christech on June 07, 2023, 05:28:37 pm
The only thing I have noticed so far is that my icon theme reset back to ArcaOS icons. I had to reset them to the Warp 4 set.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Holger Schuett on June 11, 2023, 04:20:02 pm
Hi, installed the new release today but ran in a lot of trouble.
So first question here: did anyone try a fresh install on real hardware with snap choosen as video driver.
I tried to install on an lenovo x201s with snap but in the second phase of the installation the system constantly crashe. Seems to be a problem with snap. I was able to install using gengradd, then installed snap from the iso, same crash. Switched back to VGA, then installed snap from a previous version, worked?
As the x201s seems a little bit tricky I would like to know if anyone else has the same problem before opening a ticket.

I did another install on a T400 (complete fresh install, choosing SNAP as video driver leads to the same crash in the 2. phase of the installation, so probably a bug.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on June 12, 2023, 10:28:40 pm
Well I got a clean install on my Asus motherboard. Key one is do remove the /VM. The other is just in case pull the ARCA OS usb stick during the 2nd phase. I pulled the Arca OS USB stick out as far as it would go and still be in the slot so all I had to do was push it in when the desktop came up.Worked lke like a charm. Thank you Mr. Pringle.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Rick Smith on June 26, 2023, 04:45:45 pm
The only thing I have noticed so far is that my icon theme reset back to ArcaOS icons. I had to reset them to the Warp 4 set.

Curious on how to set system to warp 4 icon set that would be cool.  Also do you know where there are any warp 4 wallpapers for that vintage look?

Rick
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Dave Yeo on June 26, 2023, 06:20:10 pm
Go to Appearance-->Scheme Palette in System Setup and choose your theme and drag'n'drop it, Alt will make it system wide.
You might find a background in \os2\bitmap
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Rick Smith on June 28, 2023, 07:17:49 pm
Go to Appearance-->Scheme Palette in System Setup and choose your theme and drag'n'drop it, Alt will make it system wide.
You might find a background in \os2\bitmap

Thank you Ill have a look... I have to redo everything as the 5.0.8 "update" wiped out my drive and I have to start over....

Rick
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: ivan on June 28, 2023, 08:31:49 pm
Hi Rick,

What do you mean it 'wiped out your drive'?  It shouldn't touch anything but your boot partition unless you made the whole drive as one partition.

My setup has several partitions, see attached, plus 2 other 2 tb drives.  That setup is from the days of OS/2 Warp v4 with the only changes being to the 'C' boot partition.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on June 28, 2023, 11:04:37 pm
My one upgrade did not go well. The full clean install on a new computer did. Other problems no QT5 apps would run. Firefox Seamonkey and Thunderbird would not run And Apache Open Office as well.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: ivan on June 29, 2023, 09:26:06 pm
Sorry, but my philosophy is 'if it is working why change it, unless there is some earth shattering innovation'.

Since no one has mentioned earth shattering like dumping rpm/yum for warpin wpi there is nothing to get excited about.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on June 29, 2023, 10:05:06 pm
Ivan, I disagree. The fact you can install with out issue to a NVMe drive is pretty important. That and there sre specialized installs for the audio drivers. Sometimes it is a little upgrade that is why the .00 designation. But It is up to you.

Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: ivan on July 05, 2023, 01:26:27 am
I had no problems installing on to a M.2 stick although I will say doing that seems to preclude using a normal HD for storage.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on July 05, 2023, 11:07:37 pm
So an M.2 SSD can be SATA-based, PCIe-based with NVMe support, or PCIe-based without NVMe support. An M.2 SSD with NVMe support offers up to five times more bandwidth than SATA M.2 models, bringing better performance in key tasks, such as file transfers, video or photo editing, transcoding, compression and decompression. So which is yours?
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Dave Yeo on July 06, 2023, 04:08:48 am
Ivan, I disagree. The fact you can install with out issue to a NVMe drive is pretty important.

Did you check your config.sys, namely the acpi.psd line after installing? Seems there's a bug that leaves the /VW option.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: Eugene Tucker on July 06, 2023, 04:29:37 am
Dave yes I did.
Title: Re: ArcaOS 5.0.8 is out!
Post by: ivan on July 06, 2023, 09:10:29 am
Eugene,  I must confess I haven't a clue about what type of M.2 the stick I'm using is.  It was salvaged from a windows 11 computer that caught fire, don't ask how, I just cleaned it up which took off all distinguishing marks then used the replacement computer to run DFSee to wipe it and partition it before trying it in my computer.

I was surprised that it worked and is still working.  It starts up faster than any other comp I have but I did have to fiddle with the bios to get it accepted.