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Title: OS/2 inside 86Box Beta for WIndows on ARM 64 - Surface Pro 11
Post by: Sigurd Fastenrath on January 17, 2025, 04:47:50 pm
I tested 86Box for Windows on ARM 64 on my Surface Pro 11 (Snapdragon CPU) and it runs wonderfull!

I have three complete virtual PCs running at the same time, and do not even have to change the Surface status, it is still in Power Safe Mode.

Almost perfect!! What a fun!!

Title: Re: OS/2 inside 86Box Beta for WIndows on ARM 64 - Surface Pro 11
Post by: Martin Iturbide on January 17, 2025, 10:30:35 pm
Hello Sigurd.

That looks awesome and fun.

Based in your experience with it, do you have anything to add/change to the 86box parameters that I have on the wiki?
- https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php?title=Install_and_Run_IBM_OS/2_Warp_4.0_and_4.52_in_86Box
- https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php?title=Install_and_Run_IBM_OS/2_Warp_3_Connect_in_86Box
- https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php?title=Install_and_Run_IBM_OS/2_2.11_in_86Box

Regards
Title: Re: OS/2 inside 86Box Beta for WIndows on ARM 64 - Surface Pro 11
Post by: Dave Yeo on January 18, 2025, 01:40:30 am
Hi Sigurd, pretty neat. How fast does it feel? Have you done anything CPU intensive? Be nice to benchmark with Sysbench or such. Emulation is usually much slower then virtualization.
Reading that Parallels on the Arm Macs can now also do emulation and run X86 Windows and it is slow. Previously it only virtualized so only ran Arm Windows. Luckily OS/2 never was that CPU intensive, it ran satisfactorily on a 386/33
To be clear, emulation means emulating the whole CPU and hardware while Virtualization means running most of the code on the host CPU and emulating the hardware. Simple example of virtualization, the OS/2 VDM.
Title: Re: OS/2 inside 86Box Beta for WIndows on ARM 64 - Surface Pro 11
Post by: Sigurd Fastenrath on January 18, 2025, 07:23:03 am
Hi Dave, Yes, my spelling is wrong, these are three EMULATED complete PCs running.

I will do a Sysbench later this day, may also record a new Youtube Video, showing the three boot at the same time.

Did you notice, there is a MAC ARM Version of 86Box at Github as well, that works pretty well, as one on os2.org posted.

Martin, I will Post my configurations later, but there are such a lot of possible emulated Hardware choice, that I guess there are Dozens of them working.

Such a great Software!

EDIT: attached the picture from os2.org showing the additional 86Toolbox, that is available for MAC.



Title: Re: OS/2 inside 86Box Beta for WIndows on ARM 64 - Surface Pro 11
Post by: Sigurd Fastenrath on January 19, 2025, 05:41:10 pm
Here are the Sysbench Results.

Warp 3, Red Spine, no Fixpac, "as is"
Emulated PC: AMD DX4 120 MHz, 32 MB RAM, S3Trio Grafic

I have not looked into transferring Data between Emulation/Host, so only Screenshots so far.

Should even though give a picture of it.