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OS/2, eCS & ArcaOS - Technical => Applications => Topic started by: Remy on May 24, 2025, 12:42:48 am

Title: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on May 24, 2025, 12:42:48 am
Hi,

After updating Dynamic Icons to 2.5.6, I found bugs !
After any boot, main Lotus smartsuite and IBM works folders have they icon lost.
I have to open folder and close it to get the correct icon folder back and this bug occurs after each reboot....

How to correct ?
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Martin Iturbide on May 24, 2025, 01:15:46 am
Hello Remy

Here I have ArcaOS 5.1.1 and Dynamic Icons 2.5.6. I have the PNG icons enabled on the desktop. (SET BIGICONSPATH=C:\sys\icons\BIGICONS)

I installed SmartSuite 1.7 and for the moment I'm not able to replicate the bug. Is you problem on the desktop icons of the SmartSuite apps (my picture attached)? or the .123, .lwp file icons?

Do you have the Dynamic icons enabled with PNG icons? Do you want to try to go back to "Normal" and see if the bug goes away?

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Martin Iturbide on May 24, 2025, 01:30:51 am
Hello again

If the "Dynamic" size and "Custom Icons" are enabled, since I don't have a PNG icon for .123 or .lwp, it will not show an icon. But I think that limitation was always there, it is just of this release.

What will be nice on future release is, if "Dynamic" + "Custom Icons" are on, for items that have ICO icons that do not have PNG file, the ICO will be shown.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on May 24, 2025, 10:34:50 am
I have bigicons enabled and do not "use custom icons"

Before closingf ArcaOS, I opened/closed IBM works and lotus smartsuite folder getting back the correct icon.
Today, at boot time, both folders have the correct icon but two others I notice too didn't !
These are "command prompt" and "system setup" folders  (doing the same, opening them and closing them makes the correct icon displaied!

These icons (shortcut) are also into my xcenter (ArcaOS build) bar... of course, with the corresponding dispolaied icon (bad or good)
Openning the folder from the xcenter shortcut doesn't put back the correct icon folder, only opening/closing the main folder puts back the good icon.

I put the computer view with the icon issue on 2 folder before and after open/close
and xcenter bar after getting back the good icons.
   
     
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on May 24, 2025, 10:56:14 pm
I do not like this dynamic  icon release, it is buggy  :( 





Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Rich Walsh on May 25, 2025, 04:41:18 am
I do not like this dynamic  icon release, it is buggy  :(

Have you ever considered the possibility that Dynamic Icons _isn't_ buggy and that the real problem is your system's configuration: something *you* are responsible for?

If you look at the status bar at the bottom of either screenshot, it shows the object's name, and in parentheses, its class. On my system (and AFAIK that of everyone who tested this), it says "Folder". On yours, it says "WPFolderEx". IOW, you have an add-on that no one else has that may prevent D.I. from operating normally (sounds like a timing issue).

It's easy enough to find out. If you know the name of the dll for this class, unlock it, then rename it. Next, restart the WPS and see if the problem persists (I doubt it will). Either way restore WPFolderEx's dll and restart the WPS again.

One work-around may be to ensure that WPPngFolder is that last class to replace WPFolder. You can use the WPS ClassList object to unreplace it, then immediately replace it. This should make WPPngFolder the last replacement. Restart the WPS when done.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Rich Walsh on May 25, 2025, 06:32:21 am
If the "Dynamic" size and "Custom Icons" are enabled, since I don't have a PNG icon for .123 or .lwp, it will not show an icon. But I think that limitation was always there, it is just of this release.

To understand what's happening here, I need to know how these data files get their icon: by association with program objects for 123 & LWP , or because there are "123" and "LWP" WPS classes? If by association, they should get the program object's icon regardless of whether it's custom or not. If the icons come from WPS classes, then you'd probably get the set's default data icon.

As a test, you may want to open 'x:\sys\icons\BIGICONS\bigicons.txt' and comment-out the entry for "WPDataFile", then restart the Desktop and see what you get.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Steven Levine on May 25, 2025, 08:44:07 am
FWIW,

https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/List_of_Workplace_Shell_based_Applications

tells us WPFolderEX is part of the eCo Runtime
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Martin Iturbide on May 25, 2025, 03:56:36 pm
Hello

Here it is another source that talks about WPFolderEX
- https://www.arcanoae.com/resources/downloadables/eco-runtime/

I think it is possible that WFolderEX was also included in (or used by)  "Imagination or older eSchemes Deluxe". Remy do you have that installed by any chance?

In my ArcaOS 5.1.1 I don't have that class registered.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Martin Iturbide on May 25, 2025, 04:50:38 pm
Hello

It seems that eCo Runtime (https://5nets.ru/software/runtime/), the optional "WPS package", is the one that replace the Folder class.
- https://5nets.ru/wp-content/downloads/eCoRT/eCoRT-WPS-20171113.wpi

I just installed it and it changed the WPS Folder class, just like Remy reports it.

But I disabled "Use custom icons" and I can not reproduce Remy's issue.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Rich Walsh on May 26, 2025, 04:58:27 pm
It seems that eCo Runtime (https://5nets.ru/software/runtime/), the optional "WPS package", is the one that replace the Folder class.
- https://5nets.ru/wp-content/downloads/eCoRT/eCoRT-WPS-20171113.wpi
[...]

I disabled "Use custom icons" and I can not reproduce Remy's issue.

Thanks for the link. It was never part of AOS (I checked several versions) and ecomstation.ru doesn't seem to be distributing it anymore. It _seems_ more stable than the 2009(?) version which was pretty bad IIRC. If Remy has the older version, I'd suggest he upgrade to this one - using it, I can't reproduce the problem either.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on May 27, 2025, 11:33:14 pm
eco runtime was installed since my ArcaOs 5.0.x and available through 
I always upgraded ArcaOS up to 5.0.8 before upgrading to 5.1.x

https://www.arcanoae.com/eco-software-runtime-packages-updated-to-20241129/
was upgraded since.

Had no issue since Dynamic icon upgrade (always the same 4 folders icon have the problem and sometime, the problem is limited to 2 folders only)

 
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Rich Walsh on May 29, 2025, 04:55:50 am
eco runtime was installed since my ArcaOs 5.0.x and available through 
I always upgraded ArcaOS up to 5.0.8 before upgrading to 5.1.x
https://www.arcanoae.com/eco-software-runtime-packages-updated-to-20241129/
was upgraded since.

In that case, you should probably install the package Martin found since AOS's distribution of the ecoSoft runtime has *never* included wpfldrex.dll. If the date on your dll is older than Oct 13, 2017 it needs upgrading.

Regardless, when I run into icons that are being "difficult' I just start pushing buttons :) On the icon page, I'll press the 'Reset icon' button which seems to have no effect, then 'Default' which messes things up, then finally 'Undo' which half the time restores the correct icon. If that doesn't work, I'd assign the icon to another object, delete the folder's .ICON EA, restart the WPS, then assign the folder a new copy of the icon using the other object.
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on May 29, 2025, 10:11:29 am

In that case, you should probably install the package Martin found since AOS's distribution of the ecoSoft runtime has *never* included wpfldrex.dll. If the date on your dll is older than Oct 13, 2017 it needs upgrading.


ArcaOS download link has the same package and I already updated it to this latest level.

Dynamic icon was updated after Eco Runtime, I'll try to re-install Eco runtime having upgrades dynamic icons
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on May 29, 2025, 11:33:03 am
Tried:

- Re-installed eco runtime  (no change, problem still exist)
- Re-installed Dynamic icons 2.5.6 (no change, problem still exist)
( REgression installing Dynamic icons 2.5.2.2 (no problem, works)
- Installed Dynamic icons 2.5.6 (problem occurs again)

Now, left dynamic icons 2.5.2.2 due 2.5.6 introduces problems   
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Martin Iturbide on May 29, 2025, 04:09:21 pm
Hello Remy.

I think it is time to open a ticket to Arca Noae. Include the full information, like the Testlog report of your machine, to see if they can find what is producing the error.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on May 29, 2025, 06:09:39 pm
Ticket is open since a few days
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Martin Iturbide on May 29, 2025, 07:51:36 pm
Hello Remy

I found it here: https://mantis.arcanoae.com/view.php?id=3791

Just as a suggestion, please add that you reinstalled Dynamic Icon 2.5.2.2 and the problem was gone, and with 2.5.6 the problem occurs again. Also post there the Testlog generic file in case they can find something extra that causes the issue.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on May 30, 2025, 10:44:24 am
I just saw something and may be you can check too !

I used dynamic icon on my desktop but I left icon view under folders with normal.
After (first) upgrade, I have dynamic icons under any folder  :-\  (next re-install didn't change settings)
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Martin Iturbide on May 30, 2025, 03:59:20 pm
Hello Remy
I used dynamic icon on my desktop but I left icon view under folders with normal.
After (first) upgrade, I have dynamic icons under any folder  :-\  (next re-install didn't change settings)

What I understand is that you disable all dynamic icons and just let the dynamic icons on the desktop.
I tried these on my system:
1) On Setup  "Workplace Shell" on the "Icons Size" tab I set all the normal.
2) Right click on the desktop and set the desktop icons as "Dynamic Icon".

After that I still was not able to reproduce your bug. I see the icons on "Command Prompts" and "System Setup" even with the WPFolderEx class definition.

Regards
Title: Re: [Arca Noae] Dynamic Icons version 2.5.6
Post by: Remy on June 01, 2025, 04:58:01 pm
Found something and updated my ticket.