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OS/2, eCS & ArcaOS - Technical => Applications => Topic started by: David Graser on March 24, 2018, 05:16:54 am

Title: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on March 24, 2018, 05:16:54 am
OS/2 pointers and pointer sets
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Post by: David Graser on March 25, 2018, 08:25:02 am
XWP shadow icons and boot logos
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Post by: David Graser on March 26, 2018, 05:27:05 am
Styer (estyler) titlebar and button bitmaps
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Post by: David Graser on May 08, 2018, 08:18:50 am
A few desktop and folder backgrounds done in PNG's.  ArcaOS has no problem utilizing PNGs as desktop backgrounds.  I decided to do PNGs because for some reason, my ArcaOS was getting confused when using OS/2 bmps.  This does not exist when using PNGs.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on May 08, 2018, 09:07:42 am
Some desktop and folder backgrounds.
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Post by: David Graser on May 12, 2018, 06:02:37 pm
I am moving my portal folders here so they are easier to find.  To use, dynamic icons must be enable for each folder you want to use them in, including the desktop.  Remember, XWP's shadow icon does not work when dynamic icons are enabled for that folder.  Thes PNG folder icons can only be used if you have ArcaOS.  You can use them how you want.  You can have a blue folder icon and when open it can be a empty blue bubble or you can use a clear port icon and so on.  I started some yellow portals.  Now I just have to find them.

The first set is the blue portal folders.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on May 12, 2018, 06:03:47 pm
Clear portal folder icons

a yellow portal folder set.  Not complete,

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Post by: David Graser on June 08, 2018, 06:14:35 pm
Created some new "glass" Styler tbkgnds and buttons.  Be sure to check the "scale the image" under the titlebar tab in the styler setup.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on June 09, 2018, 07:52:12 pm
Doodling and made a glass blue desktop background and a glass red background and a pink for the ladies.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on June 12, 2018, 10:11:10 pm
I had these posted, but waited until I had enough in the package to anounce this package.  These are brand new icons.  These are not found in the other package.   
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on June 20, 2018, 06:52:40 am
I am messing with a new glass prototype folder.  Uploaded are the templates. 

Also uploaded 7 test icons.
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Post by: David Graser on July 25, 2018, 06:39:29 pm
New red glass folder icons
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Post by: David Graser on July 25, 2018, 06:41:14 pm
new dark blue glass folder icons
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Post by: David Graser on July 25, 2018, 06:44:24 pm
new yellow glass folder icons
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Post by: David Graser on July 30, 2018, 07:44:06 am
I cleaned up the original glass blue folders template.

I also added more icons to match what i had in the red, yellow, and dark blue glass folders.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 02, 2018, 07:03:22 pm
Somehow I left this out of my xwp shadow icon package.

Another butterfly, possibly the best of the three.

By the way, anything I upload, feel free to use anyway one wants, to modify, or add to.  As I have stated before, this is stuff I play around with which is why I refer to it as doodles.

David
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Post by: David Graser on August 26, 2018, 07:46:21 am
I did the grey folders since grey is a neutral color.
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Post by: David Graser on August 27, 2018, 12:05:43 am
More doodling with folder concept.
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Post by: David Graser on September 24, 2018, 07:33:10 am
I liked the yellow glass folders the best so far so I made more folder icons .

I also made a few more doc icons based on my glass idea.

I also modified the drawing pencil pointers to a more yellow look for my theme.

Also included a picture of my present desktop.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: roberto on September 24, 2018, 11:43:55 pm
Hello david,
I wanted to ask you if you have the warp3 or warp4 icons of the magnifying glass,
 that we have in the xcenter, and that the xwpfinder program uses.It's for tests

I was trying to change this icon the other day, and it seemed that after changing it,
I increased the memory of the system. At about 200,000 to 400,000Kb
It seems to me that this increase in memory is due to the fact that when the icon is changed,
the desktop is reset.
If someone wants to verify it, for me it is a sensation. You just have to "Restart Desktop".
The pmshell.exe appears with a new pid and you're done.
Remember to have a backup, because when you restart the desktop,
if you have the defective inis it can be a kaos.
Saludos
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 25, 2018, 01:26:22 am
Hello david,
I wanted to ask you if you have the warp3 or warp4 icons of the magnifying glass,
 that we have in the xcenter, and that the xwpfinder program uses.It's for tests

Hi Roberto

I do not have the magnifying glass or any of the other icons.  The source files can be found at Netlabs if this helps.

http://trac.netlabs.org/xworkplace/browser#trunk/src

David

Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: roberto on September 26, 2018, 07:13:05 pm
Thanks for the link, I think I'll open a tiket with the error in xwpfinder, in mantis.

Concerning my previous comment of the memory, it turns out that according to theseus4,
it is exactly the opposite, to what I have observed. Doing the desktop restart,
I consume 350,000kb more than without doing it.
I can only say that if someone wants to try it, and compare it, it's simple.
 I already start the system, I do the restart desktop. It works better especially with applications like the virtualbox,
 which are some memory swallows.
The explanation, I do not know, could be from an error in theseus4, to a better use of the cache ...
Saludos
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: RickCHodgin on September 26, 2018, 07:32:47 pm
I am messing with a new glass prototype folder.  Uploaded are the templates. 

Also uploaded 7 test icons.

David, if you write a little application and use gray-scaled versions and identify mask templates for your base gray-scaled images, you can apply user-specified colors allowing them to generate their own custom preferences to generate an output icon set based on those preferences.

Put together a few base color group patterns for common likes and people can use those as a base for tweaking and creating their own custom entries.

If you're interested in something like that and you have some base OS/2 Presentation Manager programming skills, I would be happy to help you setup a template app and give you some cues on the algorithms where required.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 26, 2018, 10:11:28 pm
I am messing with a new glass prototype folder.  Uploaded are the templates. 

Also uploaded 7 test icons.

If you're interested in something like that and you have some base OS/2 Presentation Manager programming skills, I would be happy to help you setup a template app and give you some cues on the algorithms where required.

Hi Rick

I appreciate the offer, but you have enough on your plate to handle.  Unfortunately, I am not a programmer.  I thought about it at one time may years ago, but realized without help, I would never be good.  In addition to lack of knowledge and skill, I am a poor typist.  That is why I started dabbing with icons, ptrs, and bmps.  I have had to teach myself over time.  Fortunately, no typing was involved.  It is just my way of contributing back to the OS/2 community. 
 
Best of luck on the goals you hope to achieve.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: RickCHodgin on September 26, 2018, 10:50:17 pm
I appreciate the offer, but you have enough on your plate to handle...

I can only work on any given project for a few days at a time then I need a switch.  I enjoy tackling new things.  On this project I would've mostly guided you and written some template code that you could expand upon.

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Best of luck on the goals you hope to achieve.

Thank you kind sir.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on December 17, 2018, 05:11:33 am
Just completed some more portals.

I do have a question.  Is there some way to increase the spacing between icons when in dynamic display mode?  The larger icons can become cramped.  I thought at one time there was a grid spacing feature, but I do not see it in ArcaOS.  There are also a few system icons that don't give one the option of dynamic png icons; sound, kernel, and display.  I wonder if these were missed when dynamic icons were added.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on December 18, 2018, 03:49:56 am
For fun, I decided to dress up my desktop to something way out.

and a slightly different version
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Post by: David Graser on December 18, 2018, 10:49:09 pm
A few new icons and the jade portal folders.  For the open folder, you can do it in six ways:

1.  Don' assign an open folder
2.  Assign the yellow folder for open
3   Assign an empty jade folder
4.  Assign an empty yellow folder
5.  Assign an empty ring for the open folder
6.  Assign a ring with a brown interior

I named some of the open folder choices gateways.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on December 22, 2018, 05:41:11 pm
Nearly completed a new blue portal theme.  My present desktop with with a few of its icons.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on December 23, 2018, 10:12:05 pm
I have uploaded the new blue folder portals as seen in the previous picture
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Post by: David Graser on December 24, 2018, 03:19:48 am
some new backgrounds
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Post by: David Graser on December 25, 2018, 08:09:39 pm
Here are some new glove pointers and misc pointers.

David
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Post by: David Graser on December 31, 2018, 10:19:46 am
Put all the PNG icons into one zip package.

some new PNG icons

New printer and web icons.

Now over 200 PNG icons sized in 80x80 pixels now in the package.  Will delete the earlier packages.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on January 10, 2019, 06:50:44 am
Just updated my jade, blue, and brown portal folders adding more folder icons.  Removed the earlier zips.  Pics of what some of the icons look like can be found on page 2 near the bottom.

Remember, there are various ways to handle the second icon.  It is up to your imagination.

1.  Don' assign an open folder
2.  Assign the brown folder for open
3   Assign an empty jade folder
4.  Assign an empty brown folder
5.  Assign an empty ring for the open folder
6.  Assign a ring with a brown interior
7. etc
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on January 14, 2019, 06:37:45 am
My first animated arrow pointer.  It is a highly visible 32x32 animated ballon ptr.  It changes colors.
Just unzip and copy the folder to the os/2 pointers folder.  Open the mouse icon and select the arrow pointer.  Then select load set and select the folder with the icons. 

Just added a new animated shuttle ptr.
Added a ani charged pointer.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on January 17, 2019, 03:47:30 am
Hi David.

Just in case I had been looking around for some icons and "Icon Park (http://icon-park.com)" has some very nice ones and public domain. Maybe you already know about it.

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on January 17, 2019, 06:08:26 am
Hi Martin

I was not aware of it.  Since ArcaOS has PNG capability, the more to choose from the better.  Thanks.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on January 26, 2019, 09:41:41 pm
Put all the PNG icons into one zip package.

some new PNG icons

New printer and web icons.

Now over 200 PNG icons sized in 80x80 pixels now in the package.  Will delete the earlier packages.

Made a few cmd promt and rexx pngs.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 12, 2019, 03:50:58 am
Hi.

I created some ideas to replace the PMDLL.exe icon.

Regards
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Post by: David Graser on February 12, 2019, 10:23:05 pm
Hi Martin

Glad to see you posted here.  Hope others feel free to post their graphics here.  It makes it easier to look for what they want or need.

David
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Post by: David Graser on February 20, 2019, 03:35:56 am
Created some png icons for the appearance folder in ArcaOS.
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Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 20, 2019, 05:16:17 pm
Hi David.

By any chance have you created any improved version of the "System Setup Icons" (like the ones that I'm attaching) that looks more similar to the original, but optimized and with a higher resolution?

I would really like to have some SVG format of a nicer version of the "plain system setup" icon, so the rest icons can be improved and maintain the old fashion way that I like, I kind of like those icons. It is a thing of a personal preference, don't believe I want to force people to the same taste  ;D

Regards

Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on February 20, 2019, 06:58:11 pm
Martin

Are you saying is it possible to make PNG icons similar to the pics?  Yes.

However, if I did so, I might try to upgrade the graphics inside the control icon.

I will play around and see.
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Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 20, 2019, 08:39:34 pm
Hi David.

Those looks very good. Thanks.
I was wondering if you have it on SVG (vector format) or just work with those in PNG?  I know that the final file must be on PNG to work, but SVG is good since it can be any size without loosing image quality.

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on February 21, 2019, 03:35:21 am
Hi Martin. We don't seem to have any SVG support. I ported Potrace, http://potrace.sourceforge.net/ (http://potrace.sourceforge.net/) and played a bit.
Problems include no colour support but according to the web site, can layer. These PNG's don't translate to well to BMP or PBM due to having OBJECTS and/or LAYERS.
I used Embellish to convert the PNG's, some to PBM some to BMP, which I ran through mkbitmap to convert to PBM, test3 I also converted to greyscale.
The potential is there, need to play a bit. For help, run the help output through less as there is a line ending issue, potrace --help | less

I'll probably upload the full program to Hobbes after more testing.

Edit, the SVG's don't seem to display here for some reason. I tested by drag'n'dropping them on the browser (SeaMonkey)
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on February 21, 2019, 05:06:04 am
Hi David.

Those looks very good. Thanks.
I was wondering if you have it on SVG (vector format) or just work with those in PNG?  I know that the final file must be on PNG to work, but SVG is good since it can be any size without loosing image quality.

Regards

To date, I have just dealt with os/2 icons, BMPs, and PNGs.  I have never tried SVG.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 21, 2019, 03:09:08 pm
Hi David.

That's good, I just wanted to know. SVG is not an icon format and will not work as icons on OS/2, but it is an interesting format since it is vector, so it is like having the source code of the image. Since a PNG, ICO, BMP are Bitmaps files, they have a defined size, while vectors images can be grown to any size you need without loosing quality.

I use Inkscape (sadly not on OS/2) to create/modify some images like Artie (https://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/Artie) on SVG format, and I can plat around with it to export to several other formats.

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on February 23, 2019, 02:21:06 am
Very Nice, I'm using those.
Here you can see the difference with some "old ones".
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on February 25, 2019, 12:06:55 am
Updated some, created a few more, and bundled them all together.
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Post by: David Graser on March 26, 2019, 04:26:11 am
Some new PNGs.
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Post by: David Graser on March 30, 2019, 03:39:03 pm
I uploaded the wrong Ghostview.  I like the dark red glasses in the OS/2 icon.  I have been playing around with Priority Master II demo, so I decided to create a PNG for it.  Decided to make a new FM/2 PNG.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on April 04, 2019, 01:35:45 am
Created a few more PNGs.   Touched up FM/2, did a 3d launchpad,  Top, Larson Commander, DOS box with red outline, System Info 2, SysInfo.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on April 07, 2019, 08:11:43 am
Added a few more PNG icons to reply #50 and here.
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Post by: Martin Iturbide on April 27, 2019, 12:00:29 am
Hi David.

By any chance have you produced any icons for any OS/2 game you may use/know?

Let me know if you have some icons for OS/2 games. I want to include some newer icons on my experiment called "OHFOWG (https://archive.org/details/OHFOWG)", where I'm trying to pack all OS/2 freeware/open/shareware games that I can find.

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on April 27, 2019, 12:20:55 am
Are you referring to OS/2 icons or PNGs?  As of right now, I have done no OS/2 icons for games.  I prefer working with PNGs because the normal OS/2 icons are a pain in the ass to make and ArcaOS gives me the ability to use them.  However, that is not to say I won't make any.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on April 27, 2019, 12:33:45 am
Hi David.

I also prefer png also. Sometime when I say "icons" I don't mean the ".ico format", just the image that shows as a square on a program executable file  ;D ;D

Regards.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on April 27, 2019, 01:12:00 am
Easy ones
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Post by: David Graser on April 27, 2019, 04:31:52 am
more
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Post by: David Graser on April 27, 2019, 06:49:14 am
more
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Post by: David Graser on April 28, 2019, 05:29:51 pm
more
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Post by: David Graser on April 28, 2019, 08:17:32 pm
more, also look back to previous PNGs.  Modified a few.
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Post by: Martin Iturbide on May 01, 2019, 03:17:34 am
Thanks David. I'm using all I can for the collection.

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 01, 2019, 10:16:03 pm
I made a simple grey ArcaOS background (1600x900)..
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 02, 2019, 12:11:13 am
more

The rather detailed Des_chiffres.png of 27 april looks like a drowning light blue cartoon character, with 2 light blue feet. As if the game can be quite hard. I had to zoom to see what it actually was: numbers. I'll try to use the released, simple Galgje.png. If anything to stick to a generic border theme.

Not an *.ICO file request, but a doodle in text. KMP, K Movie Player: the Korean flag, positive or negative, as a 3-D film frame of a 3-D Movies folde'ishr-icon, with and without the folder (KMP folder, KMP drop target, KMP UI). IIRC the Korean flag also was a little bit too detailed to make that work, even if you did restrict yourself to a smallest size of 40x40.

I thought at one time there was a grid spacing feature, but I do not see it in ArcaOS.

Old question, younger answer: I'm not using ArcaOS, but you may have been talking about Extended Desktop and its setting (tabs of the settings of the desktop), NPSWPS, or OO.EXE or a Rexx script (with or without WPTOOLS.DLL to query existing icons) which tries to set icon positioning by using WPS setup strings like ICONGRIDSIZE or ICONPOS. BUILDVRX.CMD of Watcom VX-REXX includes an example of ICONPOS, but nowadays I'd set its default screen size to its largest known screen size of 1024x768 instead of an outdated 640x480. The screen size is used to calculate ICONPOS-values.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 02, 2019, 02:17:16 am
more

The rather detailed Des_chiffres.png of 27 april looks like a drowning light blue cartoon character, with 2 light blue feet. As if the game can be quite hard. I had to zoom to see what it actually was: numbers. I'll try to use the released, simple Galgje.png. If anything to stick to a generic border theme.


Did a quick redo and added an os/2 icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 02, 2019, 08:17:07 am
Will probably be be used in a next release soon, w/o credits. The previous one really came close to a triangle-shaped, overwhelmed or drowning cartoon character. Two light blue feet sticking out to the left, and the hole of (IIRC) of the 4 representing facial features.

BTW, w.r.t. Digger: the original *.BMP artwork of DIGMENU3.ZIP itself, including but not limited to its EAs, qualifiies as bloatware. By choice. The largest bitmap can be converted to 256 colors, by using e.g. PMView or NConvert. The 2 smaller, untested bitmap files to 4 or 16 colors (at the moment please disable Hufman when PMView is used to save those small bitmap files, to avoid already reported extremer bloatware or crashes). Saves about 0.7 MiB of disk space and backup/restore time. I haven´t tested the small ones, but the largest file still works with 8 instead of 24 bits per pixel. FWIW.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Pete on August 02, 2019, 02:20:37 pm
Hi All

Not sure if this thread should be "hijacked" to discuss the BMPs supplied with DIGMENU3.ZIP but as Andre has commented I guess I should respond...

I did consider converting images but decided as the images total <1Mb to leave them alone.

The images are not required at all in order for digmenu to run - just make the interface more fun - so can be deleted if disk space is really tight.

Alternatively a user can create their own BMP files to use, just need to make the new images the same size as existing BMPs and use the same names as the existing BMP files.


Regards

Pete
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 02, 2019, 03:49:02 pm
I reduced the colors and added a new digger.ico.  The attached png shows what the icon looks like.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Pete on August 02, 2019, 04:26:54 pm
Hi David

Your Digger icon is not Digger, it is Nobbin.

Any chance of a good scanner icon preferably with a HP logo on? - I am sure you can do much better than my HPscan icon...


Regards

Pete


Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 02, 2019, 04:44:07 pm
Hi David

Your Digger icon is not Digger, it is Nobbin.

Any chance of a good scanner icon preferably with a HP logo on? - I am sure you can do much better than my HPscan icon...


I took the digger from the included graphic in the digmenu3.zip.

As for the scanner icon, I see what I can do.  No guarantees.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Pete on August 02, 2019, 05:21:27 pm
Hi David

There are several "characters" involved - see http://www.digger.org/

I would upload the digger.ico used by digmenu but os2world does not allow uploading .ICO or .BMP files...


Regards

Pete
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 02, 2019, 08:07:53 pm
Hi Pete

A scanner icon is a very difficult icon to do when making an os2 icon due to all the limitations of the os2 icon.  I created one, not to happy with it, but I don't think I could do much better.  Others more skilled could probably make one better. 
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Pete on August 02, 2019, 10:19:44 pm
Hi David

Looks good to me - far better than I could manage.

I will use it with the next release of HPscan   :-)


Thanks

Pete
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 03, 2019, 11:04:09 am
This is not a request. It may be inspiration, to identify categories or "popular" apps without any *.ICO file. A quick & dirty list of objects without an assigned *.ICO file, excluding many folders with a default icon. Typically 3-D folder icons aren't that hard to create.

Missing icons may have been caused by an original author of a ported app without any original icon, not having assigned some generic icon to an object yet, or not yet having converted some available Windows-icon to an OS/2 *.ICO file. And so on.

From my point of view the most remarkable categories are the 1st (multimedia), 2nd (browser without an icon), mainly the 4th (graphics without *.ICO file), and the last 4 (a.o. FM/2 objects, brands of emulated hardware, utilities, iconless software for programmers).

Code: [Select]
K Movie Player             (KMP.EXE)
K Movie Player FS          (KMPFS.CMD)
WarpVision CLI             (WVISION.EXE)
Z!Bar                      (ZBAR.EXE)

Hobbes                     (FTP-PM template)
K File Wizard              (KFW.EXE)
KSCIP                      (KSCP.EXE)
No News is Good News       (NNIGN.EXE)
QBrows                     (QBROWS.EXE)
URLGet (drop target)       (URLGET.CMD)

DataPefect                 (DP.COM)
Quicky                     (QUICKY.EXE)

Auto Adjust Photo          (AAPHOTO.EXE)
NConvert (drop targets)    (NCONVERT.EXE)
NeoShow                    (NEOSHOW.EXE)
OptiPNG (drop target)      (OPTIPNG.EXE)   
PCX2PRN (drop target)      (PCX2PRN.EXE)
PNGcheck                   (PNGCHECK.EXE)
PNGMeta (CLI drop target)  (PNGMETA.CMD)
QVV                        (QVV.EXE)
Squash                     (SQUASH.EXE)

Antix                      (ANTIX.COM)
Elfland                    (ELF1.EXE)
Flashback                  (RS.EXE)
Gross2                     (GROSS2.EXE)
Keen 3.5                   (START.EXE)
Omega                      (OMEGA.EXE)
Out of This World          (RAW.EXE)
Pharaoh's Tomb (1-4)       (PTOMBx.EXE)
Planet Strike              (PLANET.BAT)
Realms of Chaos            (ROC.EXE)
Skyroads                   (SKY.EXE)

Aquanoid                   (AQUA.EXE)
Rebound                    (REBOUND.EXE)
RexxPong                   (REXXPONG.CMD)
Silverball                 (SILVER.EXE)
Turoid                     (TUROID.EXE)
Turoid Level Editor        (TLE.EXE)

Atlas                      (TOPO.EXE)
Lingo                      (LINGO.EXE)
Shut The Box               (MLSHUT.EXE)
Sudoku (EPM output)        (SUDO.CMD)
Sudoku (printer output)    (ENSUDO.EXE)
Sudoku (screen output)     (SUDOKU.EXE)
Yahtzee                    (MLYAHT.EXE)
Yahtzee/2                  (YAHTZEE.EXE)

Accordion                  (ACORDION.EXE)
Klaverjassen               (KLAVER.EXE)
Odds (drop target)         (ODDS.EXE)

Carmageddon                (HIRES.BAT)
Death Rally                (RALLY.EXE)
GP2                        (GP2.EXE)
Grand Prix Circuit         (GPEGA.EXE)

Night Raid                 (NTR.EXE)

Copy Resultfiles to Player (COPYRST.CMD)
Copy Turnfiles to Host     (TURN.CMD)
Delete Ini-File (Caution!) (DELINI.CMD)
Evaluate Game              (EVALUATE.EXE)
Flight Simulator 5.0       (FS.BAT)
Flight Simulator 5.1       (FS.BAT)
Make Universe              (UNIVERSE.EXE)

Carambole Classique        (BILJDEMO.EXE)
Golf                       (GOLF.EXE)
Pool                       (POOL.EXE)
Snooker                    (START.COM)

ehm                        (EHM.EXE)

CEDIT                      (CEDIT.EXE)

CityDisc xxxxxxxxx         (CITYDISC.EXE)
Xplanet                    (XPLANET.EXE)

Delete Tree                (DELTREE.EXE)
F                          (F.EXE)
FMT viewer mode            (FMTRD.CMD)
Make Object                (MAKEOBJ.CMD)
XLCopy (drop target)       (XLCOPY.CMD)

FBZX                       (FBZX.EXE)
Commodore 64               (X64.EXE)
Commodore Plus/4           (XPLUS4.EXE)

AClock                     (ACLOCK.EXE)
BMI                        (BMI.EXE)
FreeType Font Viewer       (FTFV.EXE)
JRemind                    (JREMIND.JAR)
Meanings                   (MEANINGS.EXE)
Tesseract                  (TESSERACT.EXE)
Text2PDF (drop target)     (TEXT2PDF.CMD)
Words                      (WORDS.EXE)

Artistic Style             (ASTYLE.EXE)
BFRunner                   (BRAINFUCK.EXE)
bwBASIC                    (BWBASIC.EXE)
Cppcheck CLI               (CPPCHECK.EXE)
Hacker's View              (HIEW.EXE)
VP/Txt v2.1 IDE            (VP2.EXE)
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 03, 2019, 07:06:01 pm
More 80x80 game PNGs
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on August 04, 2019, 04:00:53 pm
Hi David.

I was checking your animated pointers (ecs_animated_cursors.zip, ecs_os2_ani_blinkinglights_ptrs.zip, ecs_os2_ani_flag_ptrs.zip, eCS_OS2_Ani_Mouse_Ptrs.zip, more_ecs_ani_mouse_ptrs.zip) on hobbes.

1) I was wondering how do you assign the icon (the ones that shows on the desktop) to the ani file. Some ani files shows the icon file, and some others not. Do you assign manually, and the EA is included on the zip file?

2) Will it make sense to combine those five packages (do you have any more?) in a single file in hobbes, and upload it to "/pub/multimedia/pointer/animated". I can help with that.

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 04, 2019, 04:36:16 pm
Hi David.

I was checking your animated pointers (ecs_animated_cursors.zip, ecs_os2_ani_blinkinglights_ptrs.zip, ecs_os2_ani_flag_ptrs.zip, eCS_OS2_Ani_Mouse_Ptrs.zip, more_ecs_ani_mouse_ptrs.zip) on hobbes.

1) I was wondering how do you assign the icon (the ones that shows on the desktop) to the ani file. Some ani files shows the icon file, and some others not. Do you assign manually, and the EA is included on the zip file?

2) Will it make sense to combine those five packages (do you have any more?) in a single file in hobbes, and upload it to "/pub/multimedia/pointer/animated". I can help with that.

Regards
Hi Martin

It has been a while.  Some are done the OS/2 way and some are done the Win95 way if I remember correctly.  Presently, I don't have it installed.  The latest supposedly corrected version of animated mouse pointer was dated 2010.  I tried it with ArcoOS and it would hang my system every now and then.  Also, it did not support the Win95 animated pointers which the original did. The fixed version has disappeared (2010).  Now that I have 3 ArcaOS partitions up and running, I will have to try the original version again. 

It has been so long that I really don't remember.  The os/2 versions, you need to select the folder.  The Win95, if I remember correctly, and I could wrong, should be shown in the pointer selections.  I will need to install the original when I have time.

The only other animated pointers are the new ones I posted under this list.  As for the ones on Hobbes, I never uploaded one big package with all the pointers.  If you want to put them into one package, that is fine with me.

Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on August 05, 2019, 05:59:14 am
Hi David,

I'm reorganizing the pointers this way by consolidating the four zip files, it is still draft but this is the idea.

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 05, 2019, 07:51:48 pm
Not an *.ICO file request, but a doodle in text. KMP, K Movie Player: the Korean flag, as a 3-D film frame of a 3-D Movies folder'ishr-icon, with and without the folder. IIRC the Korean flag also was a little bit too detailed to make that work, even if you did restrict yourself to a smallest size of 40x40.

It was. A quick & dirty (2-D) redo confirms it'll look like JMP or like a Japanese ribbon. Too... many... details. :-\
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on August 05, 2019, 11:22:55 pm
Hi

I think I'm uploading this version to hobbes.

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 09, 2019, 07:03:55 am
I decided to split the 4 bit icons up:  Games and Programs.  A few more icons have been added.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 09, 2019, 08:59:46 am
FWIW, a file rename: detree.ICO -> deltree.ICO
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 19, 2019, 04:20:58 am
Made a few more OS/2 icons and updated the package.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 19, 2019, 05:00:19 am
My PNG icon doodles in one package.  Not all icons are pictured.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 19, 2019, 03:26:43 pm
PRIX3M80.PNG (renamed to Chiffres80.PNG) and GALGJE.PNG (renamed to Galgje80.PNG) are now distributed as the "official" 80x80 icons of the matching games Des chiffres and Galgje. Des chiffres had a different own 40x40 icon, but there the availability of a 80x80 version and a more generic 80x80 style was leading.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 19, 2019, 03:32:01 pm
My PNG icon doodles in one package.  Not all icons are pictured.
FWIW/ The PNG package contains 3 *.ICO files (QUESTER.ICO, QUESTER_80.ICO and a DOSBox-related TEST.ICO).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 19, 2019, 08:24:40 pm
That is what happens when one has doodles scattered over several partitions and thumb drives.  :)
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 23, 2019, 06:02:27 pm
I thought I had upload these OS/2 icons I had done over the years, but checking I had not. I included some pics of some of the folders, but not all the folders.  These are primarily done in 8 and 24 bit icons.  Again, there may be a few duplicate icons.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 23, 2019, 09:27:48 pm
FWIW: here just about 37 duplicates, and missing dots in the file names "DOCUMENTS2ICO" and "INFO7ICO".
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 26, 2019, 11:26:14 pm
Grand Prix Circuit (https://www.myabandonware.com/game/grand-prix-circuit-ga) (GPEGA.EXE)

"Solved". There was an unexpected but recognizable 32x32 OS/2 icon file in its directory, which is slightly better than a default DOS session icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 27, 2019, 09:57:34 pm
DataPerfect (DP.COM)

"Solved". https://dataperfect.nl/files (https://dataperfect.nl/files) has a 32x32 Windows icon file, which would probably look better as a 40x40 icon with a slightly larger text "DP", using the same italic blue font of WP5*.ICO OS/2 icon files.

The attached file is DP.ICO, converted to a 32x32 OS/2 icon. Apparently DataPerfect itself is freeware: https://winworldpc.com/product/dataperfect/2x (https://winworldpc.com/product/dataperfect/2x).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 28, 2019, 02:52:46 am
new icons for the No Gravity game just release at eCSoft/2.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 28, 2019, 03:02:32 am
More LSZipWizard PNG Icons. The first one is what the OS/2 icon is based on.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 28, 2019, 04:08:22 am
DataPerfect (DP.COM)

The attached file is DP.ICO, converted to a 32x32 OS/2 icon. Apparently DataPerfect itself is freeware: https://winworldpc.com/product/dataperfect/2x (https://winworldpc.com/product/dataperfect/2x).

I just revised adding a 40x40, 20x20, and a 16x16 icon to it.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 28, 2019, 07:08:23 pm
Great. I've tried to use the P of a WP52.ICO, and the top of that P as a D, but that wasn't worth the efforts.

Perhaps reported earlier: vitural_box.ICO - > virtural_box.ICO
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 28, 2019, 09:56:26 pm
QVV (QVV.EXE)

"Solved". The attached icon files (QVV.ICO, QVV_80.PNG) are based on an original icon file of QVV (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/graphics/viewer&file=qvv402-os2.zip).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 28, 2019, 11:26:04 pm
Squash (SQUASH.EXE)

"Solved". The attached icon file (Squash.ICO) is based on an original icon source file, resized by using ... Squash (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/graphics/convert&file=squash03-os2.zip).

For a 80x80 PNG icon, with David's border, I would recommend using the 64x64 icon source file. I haven't tried to upscale that original image to 80x80 myself: https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/squash/squash-0.3.tar.bz2 (https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/squash/squash-0.3.tar.bz2).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 29, 2019, 12:36:00 am
QVV (QVV.EXE)

"Solved". The attached icon files (QVV.ICO, QVV_80.PNG) are based on an original icon file of QVV (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/graphics/viewer&file=qvv402-os2.zip).

Modified the 80_PNG.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 29, 2019, 01:04:52 am
Squash (SQUASH.EXE)

"Solved". The attached icon file (Squash.ICO) is based on an original icon source file, resized by using ... Squash (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/graphics/convert&file=squash03-os2.zip).

For a 80x80 PNG icon, with David's border, I would recommend using the 64x64 icon source file. I haven't tried to upscale that original image to 80x80 myself: https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/squash/squash-0.3.tar.bz2 (https://storage.googleapis.com/google-code-archive-downloads/v2/code.google.com/squash/squash-0.3.tar.bz2).

A test version 80x80 PNG.  For anyone wondering why I do 80x80 PNGs, this is the max size that ArcaOS renders.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 29, 2019, 01:24:45 am
JRemind (JREMIND.JAR)

Semi-"solved": 80x80 only, without the border, based on an original 128x128 source file. I'm not 100% sure if it's the icon of our version of JRemind (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/java/apps/misc&file=jremind10.zip), though. Too... many... details for 40x40.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 29, 2019, 02:25:27 am
I made 2 iconi.  Due to the OS2 icon limitations, I modified one.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 29, 2019, 11:43:56 am
For a possibly better 80x80 one (too.. many ... details, even for 80x80), which shows the days of the calendar more clearly, I can refer to the original 128x128 icon source file. Hang on, I'll attach it (128x128, larger than 80x80 so NOT an icon for us). It was found in a JREMIND.JAR of a possibly different JRemind. The size suggests it's the icon; there was more artwork, including a 60x60 image.

Our JREMIND.JAR doesn't contain an icon file, AFAICT, and I couldn't find its possibly updated and/original source files.

I've played with the days while resizing to 40x40, and may give it a third try later today. Now even 80x80 is too small. Please note that it's an alternative to grab any rather clear 3D'ish calendar icon and an own J.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 29, 2019, 12:23:25 pm
128x128 days-section copied, adjusted 128x128 image resized to 80x80, 128x128 days-section pasted on top of that 80x80 image.

This won't work with 40x40, because then the red bit would become too large to be able to almost recognize the days. Too... many... details.

And a "fun fact": none of my WPS-installed ported apps with "PNG" in the name of the app have an original PNG icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 29, 2019, 02:00:38 pm
FWIW: the "About"-dialog of QVV shows both the credits of the assumed source of the image and the full image. The image "Green Woman", by Valentina Kallias (https://www.deviantart.com/valentinakallias). I've used the original icon file, so there won't be a need to repeat those credits and the permission. I've used the icon; not the original copyrighted image. Users of QVV may have it installed anyway.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 29, 2019, 02:49:38 pm
128x128 days-section copied, adjusted 128x128 image resized to 80x80, 128x128 days-section pasted on top of that 80x80 image.

This won't work with 40x40, because then the red bit would become too large to be able to almost recognize the days. Too... many... details.

And a "fun fact": none of my WPS-installed ported apps with "PNG" in the name of the app have an original PNG icon.

Andre, all the PNGs look good!  On the blank one, one could even add a J to it if one wanted to.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 29, 2019, 03:25:44 pm
For a possibly better 80x80 one (too.. many ... details, even for 80x80), which shows the days of the calendar more clearly, I can refer to the original 128x128 icon source file. Hang on, I'll attach it (128x128, larger than 80x80 so NOT an icon for us). It was found in a JREMIND.JAR of a possibly different JRemind. The size suggests it's the icon; there was more artwork, including a 60x60 image.

Our JREMIND.JAR doesn't contain an icon file, AFAICT, and I couldn't find its possibly updated and/original source files.

I've played with the days while resizing to 40x40, and may give it a third try later today. Now even 80x80 is too small. Please note that it's an alternative to grab any rather clear 3D'ish calendar icon and an own J.

Made an icon of the Jremind empty with a J inside.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 30, 2019, 02:11:24 am
Artistic Style (ASTYLE.EXE)

"Solved". The attached file AStyle.ICO file is based on original, simple 32x32 and 16x16 icon files of Artistic Style (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/dev/c&file=astyle_fix.zip) (Automatic Indentation Filter for C , C++ , Java Source Codes). Sizes 40x40 and 20x20 share the same images, but with a transparent border.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 30, 2019, 02:33:32 am
Updated my icon pack.  Found a bunch more drive, start/stop, program, misc, and DFSee icons to add to the package.  I also included all the new icons I have done. 
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on August 31, 2019, 09:54:44 am
QBrows (QBROWS.EXE)

Omega (OMEGA.EXE)

"Solved". OS/2 icon file for QBrows (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/internet/www/browser&file=qbrows10-os2.zip), based on original source file LOADED.PNG.

"Solved". 80x80 PNG file and OS/2 icon file for Omega (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/games/rogue&file=omega_802.zip), based on a character.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on August 31, 2019, 09:32:54 pm
QBrows (QBROWS.EXE)

Omega (OMEGA.EXE)

"Solved". OS/2 icon file for QBrows (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/internet/www/browser&file=qbrows10-os2.zip), based on original source file LOADED.PNG.

"Solved". 80x80 PNG file and OS/2 icon file for Omega (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/games/rogue&file=omega_802.zip), based on a character.

I revised the qbrows to look better with a dark background.  I revised the astyle giving it a bigger 40x40 icon.  Modified the Omega png 80x80 some. Modied the 40x40 and 32x32 icons in the omega icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 01, 2019, 12:33:12 pm
I revised the qbrows to look better with a dark background. I revised the astyle giving it a bigger 40x40 icon.  Modified the Omega png 80x80 some. Modied the 40x40 and 32x32 icons in the omega icon.

Excellent; I actually wanted to mention a white background. Such a background shouldn't be required. I did delete the "shadow" of the planet, because often such a shadow doesn't look that good. I did consider to change the usual blue planet by appending the "tail" of a Q, but I think an unexpected Q-shaped may look weird.

Perhaps I should have changed the color of the Omega icon, because e.g. folders are yellow too.

W.r.t your archive there were still 2 files without an *.ICO extension. "DIR *. /s" should find those files with a missing dot.

At the moment text2pdf, of my "text2pdf (drop target)", is "under construction". To OS/2'ify it, including possibly using a part of a rather basic PDF-icon of a Windows 3.x-distribution of about the same original package. Our lazy ports are iconless Unix utilities, and tend to use STDIN and STDOUT.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on September 01, 2019, 02:09:05 pm
Hi David

I'm looking for a "pointers folder" and an "animated pointers folder" (it does not have to be animated, it just has to represent the animated pointers) based on the ArcaOS default blue folder. Do you have something about this?

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 01, 2019, 04:44:04 pm
Hi David

I'm looking for a "pointers folder" and an "animated pointers folder" (it does not have to be animated, it just has to represent the animated pointers) based on the ArcaOS default blue folder. Do you have something about this?

Regards

Martin, I had not.  I made you four ptr folders.   Fixed the 40x40 icons in the ani second folder and reuploaded.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: miadmin on September 01, 2019, 06:36:27 pm
Thanks, that is what I was looking for.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 01, 2019, 07:40:43 pm
PhotoMesa (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/java/apps/mmedia&file=photomesa13.zip) icon files, based on the embedded, original 64x64 PHOTOMESA-LOGO.GIF source file:
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on September 03, 2019, 05:49:46 pm
Hi

I just want to confirm this, 128px is the bigger icon we can have on the OS/2 desktop with a PNG icon (with Dynamic icon), right?

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 03, 2019, 07:45:22 pm
Martin, I can confirm,  The properties page must be a backdoor to increase the PNG size beyond 80x80.  Beyond this is referred to as a custom size.  It is not listed in the properties menu of the folder until you make a custom size.

Listed is before and after.  Thanks for pointing this out.  I did not realized we could go beyond 80x80.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 04, 2019, 12:23:53 am
I don't have ArcaOS, but according to an useful dump of AOS files by Dave Yeo files like \sys\icons\BIGICONS\binocular_128px.png do exist indeed.

Is this documented, for example for developers!? I don't have a clue what the default size is, nor how it's used, nor how e.g. an installer can assign a PNG file to a WPPrograsm object.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 04, 2019, 12:51:38 am
Text2PDF (drop target) (TEXT2PDF.CMD)

"Solved", by not using the Rexx front-end anymore. A basic and generic PDF icon of TXT2PDF for a.o. Win-OS/2 was too simple.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 04, 2019, 01:04:28 am
Sigh...  ;D Here's one. I mean ... #1. :-\
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 07, 2019, 12:33:48 am
CityDisc xxxxxxxxx (CITYDISC.EXE)

"Solved". Offline map technology of the early 90s. Two rather country-specific icons for Holland (capital and the seat of government only).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 07, 2019, 02:11:11 am
Lingo (LINGO.EXE)

"Solved". The attached file, almost with too many details, is based on some tv-screenshot.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 07, 2019, 03:04:43 pm
The DOS game Death Rally/[url] has a 32x32 Windows icon file but it's dark, not great and similar alternatives are too detailed and too dark.

 (https://winworldpc.com/product/death-rally/1)
Carambole Classique (BILJDEMO.EXE)

"Solved". The icon, again almost too detailed, represents the goal of such a game quite good. Hit at least three cushions with your white ball before having hit both other balls. Being too detailed is not a complaint, FWIW. Designers of 80x80 and 128x128 may frequently notice a lack of details. It's not always easy to keep all sizes in mind.

I'm running out of off-topic messages, for one because often there's no good, or no iconic, original or alternative icon...
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 09, 2019, 12:55:32 pm
Shut The Box (MLSHUT.EXE)

"Solved". Apparently the game Shut The Box (http://www.shut-the-box.net) (link to some online version) is also known as Klappenspiel, Klappbrett, Klappbox, Klikk Klakk, Blitz, Bakarat, Canoga, Klackers, Batten Down the Hatches, Kingoball, Trictrac, Cut Throat, Fork Your Neighbor, and Jackpot.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 09, 2019, 05:35:40 pm
Put all your icons in one folder and looked at them.  All look good!
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 09, 2019, 06:29:07 pm
Thanks for the more on-topic reviews.

Shut The Box (http://www.shut-the-box.net) (link to some online version) is also known as Klappenspiel, Klappbrett, Klappbox, Klikk Klakk, Blitz, Bakarat, Canoga, Klackers, Batten Down the Hatches, Kingoball, Trictrac, Cut Throat, Fork Your Neighbor, and Jackpot.

Unverified link for the mentioned file MLSHUT.EXE: MLSHUT.ZIP @ http://cd.textfiles.com/powerpakgold/GAMEMISC/ (http://cd.textfiles.com/powerpakgold/GAMEMISC/), FWIW.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 10, 2019, 10:21:16 am
Updated and new icon files for Njam (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/games&file=njam-1.25-os2.zip), the "full-featured cross-platform pac-man like game written in C++ using SDL library" by Gianfilippo Cimmino.

I added a new, slightly better looking size 40x40 and sizes 20x20, 16x16. The size, in bytes, of the existing icon size 32x32 image is reduced.

eCS 1.2-style folder icons are included too, because an user may install at least 2 Njam objects: full-screen, and windowed (documented -w switch).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 10, 2019, 12:41:44 pm
Updated and new icon files for Njam (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/games&file=njam-1.25-os2.zip), the "full-featured cross-platform pac-man like game written in C++ using SDL library" by Gianfilippo Cimmino.

I added a new, slightly better looking size 40x40 and sizes 20x20, 16x16. The size, in bytes, of the existing icon size 32x32 image is reduced.

eCS 1.2-style folder icons are included too, because an user may install at least 2 Njam objects: full-screen, and windowed (documented -w switch).
Probably overkill, but I made a 24 bit icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 10, 2019, 12:53:31 pm
F (F.EXE)

"Solved". Perhaps reported earlier: F v4.75 (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/browser/f475beta.zip) has an own simple F.ICO, which may have to be assigned to the WPProgram object explicitly.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 10, 2019, 01:11:31 pm
Is the attached file FBZX.SVG a 144x144 icon file of FBZX (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/emulator&file=fbzx_290_os2.zip)?

Edit: yes, it is. Converted to PNG online. Probably too detailed for 40x40 or smaller as-is, but perhaps usable for 128x128 and/or 80x80. So this may be an example of having to use a different (part of an original) image for a *.ICO icon file and a *.PNG icon file. Unavoidable.

Not sure if we have got native software to convert SVG files to e.g. PNG?
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 10, 2019, 01:53:57 pm
I've edited (stretched vertically and moved) the "FB & ZX" to try to account for smaller sizes. The original, unmodified PNG file may look better. I'll attach a stretched original 144x144 PNG file and a 40x40 icon file.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 10, 2019, 03:15:33 pm
I've edited (stretched vertically and moved) the "FB & ZX" to try to account for smaller sizes. The original, unmodified PNG file may look better. I'll attach a stretched original 144x144 PNG file and a 40x40 icon file.

I had done one myself before I saw your icon.  Very similar to yours.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 10, 2019, 04:20:04 pm
Not sure if we have got native software to convert SVG files to e.g. PNG?

Not really, AFAICT PhantomJS (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/internet/misc&file=phantomjs100-os2.zip) may do the trick if it's not too old, but it looks like the user has to write unclear code (https://github.com/domenic/svg2png) to use it.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 10, 2019, 04:25:28 pm
I had done one myself before I saw your icon.  Very similar to yours.

Do use David's. Mine's hardly more than a basic attempt to see if 40x40 would still work at all without too many adjustments, with adopted rounded corners. David has even included all classic OS/2 icon sizes, unlike me.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 11, 2019, 01:43:32 am
Code: [Select]
Quicky                     (QUICKY.EXE)

Auto Adjust Photo          (AAPHOTO.EXE)
NConvert (drop targets)    (NCONVERT.EXE)
OptiPNG (drop target)      (OPTIPNG.EXE)   
PNGcheck                   (PNGCHECK.EXE)
PNGMeta (CLI drop target)  (PNGMETA.CMD)

ehm                        (EHM.EXE)

BFRunner                   (BRAINFUCK.EXE)
bwBASIC                    (BWBASIC.EXE)

Probably all projects without any original icon file.

Tesseract (TESSERACT.EXE)

"Solved". PNG files and OS/2 icon files for Tesseract (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?sh=1&button=Search&key=tesseract&stype=all&sort=type_name) (OCR), based on the 420x420 github logo file.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 11, 2019, 01:11:41 pm
Andre, I hope you don't mind.  I cleaned the icon up a little bit.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 11, 2019, 01:36:28 pm
Oh, all of my icons are off-topic. Originally I did use 2 colors for the Tesseract OCR icon file, but then pixel-ratio's of the top blue square seemed less good. Hence the mix of 256 and less than 256 colors (the larger PNG files, for example). I may use yours; apparently I was overdoing it a little bit.

I noticed I should perhaps improve my 8 bpp Njam ones (unintentional white edges, dark background) too...
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 11, 2019, 05:36:03 pm
Oh, all of my icons are off-topic. Originally I did use 2 colors for the Tesseract OCR icon file, but then pixel-ratio's of the top blue square seemed less good. Hence the mix of 256 and less than 256 colors (the larger PNG files, for example). I may use yours; apparently I was overdoing it a little bit.

I noticed I should perhaps improve my 8 bpp Njam ones (unintentional white edges, dark background) too...
I made another one similar to yours.  However, I had to make it 24 bit due to all the detail I put in.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 12, 2019, 11:22:55 am
Is this an upgrade/improvement of the previous 24-bit Njam icon? I don't mind having two, but I can delete the first copy if it's an upgrade instead of a second version.

FTR: mine was based on the single original 32x32 icon. I'll have to look at improving all other sizes.

Is there a generic "trick", method or way to avoid or repair "white" edges when a darker background is used (or when the background is white, but the icon is selected via the WPS)? I don't mind having to look at the level of individual pixels, but getting that right manually can be quite hard. After all 40x40 comes down to a maximum of 1600 pixels. I do understand what's causing the white edges, but I cannot think of a simple solution to reduce the number of "wrong" pixels.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 12, 2019, 01:25:03 pm
Is this an upgrade/improvement of the previous 24-bit Njam icon? I don't mind having two, but I can delete the first copy if it's an upgrade instead of a second version.

FTR: mine was based on the single original 32x32 icon. I'll have to look at improving all other sizes.

Is there a generic "trick", method or way to avoid or repair "white" edges when a darker background is used (or when the background is white, but the icon is selected via the WPS)? I don't mind having to look at the level of individual pixels, but getting that right manually can be quite hard. After all 40x40 comes down to a maximum of 1600 pixels. I do understand what's causing the white edges, but I cannot think of a simple solution to reduce the number of "wrong" pixels.

They are actually two separate icons.  When you stated you needed to clean yours up, I attempted to make an icon similar to yours in color and design, but bigger. 

The WPS renders OS/2 icons with a dark interior and a lighter edge as white around the edge.  Also, I lot of time while resizing icons, there is a lot of white or light grey colors.  That is why I prefer PNGs over the OS/2 icons.  The PNGs render much better.  That being said, when making my OS/2 icons, I have to go into each icon size and remove the light edges.  As a result, I usually create the various sized PNGs using a Windows program, and use its transparency tool to fix the edges, and then use PMView  in ArcaOS to copy the PNG images to the correct size in the OS/2 icon.  Circles are easy.  I use the transparency tool to make a circle without any interior to remove the light colored edges.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 12, 2019, 03:16:03 pm
They are actually two separate icons.  When you stated you needed to clean yours up, I attempted to make an icon similar to yours in color and design, but bigger.

The PNGs render much better.  That being said, when making my OS/2 icons, I have to go into each icon size and remove the light edges.  As a result, I usually create the various sized PNGs using a Windows program, and use its transparency tool to fix the edges, and then use PMView in ArcaOS to copy the PNG images to the correct size in the OS/2 icon.

Two by you, one by me: three. Is your earlier njam_24bit.ICO now replaced by your Njam3.ICO? If so, then I just have to delete my copy of njam_24bit.ICO. Otherwise I'll keep all 3. There may be more apps which require 87.5% of a pizza.

Thank you. In this case I was trying to avoid a few badly rendered pixels (32x32 -> 40x40), but because of my usually white folder backgrounds I noticed having added even more "bad" pixels later. One of the tests now will be using PNG first. And a darker test background. I don't mind having to edit pixels, but not as many pixels as possible.

BTW, one of my earlier 80x80 PNG files was based on an original icon, but found in a different package of the same author. If nobody can find that original icon I've claimed to use for a new 128x128 PNG file, then try "related legacy products" of the same source. If you are known for an "EditIcon" package which can deal with Windows icons too, then a "EditWinIco.ZIP" could be a different, "related legacy product". The source of one of my 80x80s, between page 5 and this page, was found that way. Sorry, hard to explain. I've found the icon of "EditIcon" in some related, older, ..., "EditWinIco.ZIP" package. Same source, different package. Probably at github, maybe sourceforge.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 12, 2019, 03:32:26 pm
They are actually two separate icons.  When you stated you needed to clean yours up, I attempted to make an icon similar to yours in color and design, but bigger.

The PNGs render much better.  That being said, when making my OS/2 icons, I have to go into each icon size and remove the light edges.  As a result, I usually create the various sized PNGs using a Windows program, and use its transparency tool to fix the edges, and then use PMView in ArcaOS to copy the PNG images to the correct size in the OS/2 icon.

Two by you, one by me: three. Is your earlier njam_24bit.ICO now replaced by your Njam3.ICO? If so, then I just have to delete my copy of njam_24bit.ICO. Otherwise I'll keep all 3. There may be more apps which require 87.5% of a pizza.

Andre, use the latter icon.  I can include the first icon in my icon package when I update it.  Someone may want to use it for something else.

Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 15, 2019, 08:03:27 am
use the latter icon. I can include the first icon in my icon package when I update it.  Someone may want to use it for something else.
Thank you; then I'll keep the first one too (because the second one is not an update). From a file management point of view, to not introduce several versions while you've got one.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 15, 2019, 07:50:17 pm
Text2PDF (drop target) (TEXT2PDF.CMD)

"Solved". By using Text/2 PDF (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?sh=1&button=Search&key=text2pdf20-os2.zip)'s executable, which has an own icon, instead of a Rexx drop target and text2pdf.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 17, 2019, 03:00:31 pm
An update of the Njam ones, as announced earlier. No more grey beards when the background is darker. All are based on the original, single 32x32 icon. Goals remained a slightly better looking 40x40 icon, and folder icons to reduce the number of default folder icons in use by one. Not pixel-perfect, but an improvement.

I've looked at using PNG, but didn't end up using it. As usual I've used ICONEDIT.EXE to create the folder icons, by using it's sticky selection of pixels (select the pixels you want to replace, switch to the donor image in the list, and select again to select exactly the same, right donor pixels without having to record or remember coordinates and/or sizes).

Again no request, but perhaps e.g. the file WIN1.JPG in a directory of Njam can be used for a 3-D PNG icon. That'll require the removal of text, so there may be better or easier alternatives. All other original Njam artwork is mainly 32x32'ish-sized only, including a 32x32 *.ICNS icon file.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 18, 2019, 12:12:30 pm
An original 32x32 icon, which doesn't look that great IMhO, for the game 2Pong (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?sh=1&button=Search&key=2pong).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 19, 2019, 02:36:03 am
eCS-style folder icon files for the game SDLZombies (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/games/action&file=sdlzombies.wpi).

Edit: updated attachment.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 19, 2019, 12:19:22 pm
An original 128x128 icon file of Formido (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/games/strategy&file=formido.wpi). It's a background of the game. Smaller sizes are available, but e.g. not 40x40 nor 80x80, so one may as well recreate those. Another original (Windows) icon file, size 32x32, is probably included in the OS/2 distribution as ICON.ICO.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 20, 2019, 10:52:23 pm
Icon files (*.ICO and 80x80 *.PNG) and eCS-style folder icon files (*.ICO) for: Scrabble / word games / Wordfeut / ...
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 21, 2019, 08:38:13 am
Any bored PNG doodlers could create new skins for Doodles Pretty Clock, http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Creating_modules_for_Doodle's_Screen_Saver_-_Part_3 (http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Creating_modules_for_Doodle's_Screen_Saver_-_Part_3).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 21, 2019, 12:20:31 pm
Updated Scrabble folder icon files.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 22, 2019, 06:59:32 am
Any bored PNG doodlers could create new skins for Doodles Pretty Clock, http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Creating_modules_for_Doodle's_Screen_Saver_-_Part_3 (http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Creating_modules_for_Doodle's_Screen_Saver_-_Part_3).

Here is my first pretty clock skin.  Just made a second skin. Could not resist doing one more.  All always, feel free to modify if you think you can make it better.

In ArcaOS, unzip and copy to your drive:\sys\apps\dsaver\modules\prclock directory.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 22, 2019, 10:11:24 am
Hey, nice, especially smetal. I'm going to commit these in a couple of days as they're beautiful.
How do you want to be attributed (author)?
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 22, 2019, 11:04:24 am
Hey, nice, especially smetal. I'm going to commit these in a couple of days as they're beautiful.
How do you want to be attributed (author)?

Thanks Dave.  As for a name, just put DGraser.  I working on a digi red.  Probably will be finished tonight.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 22, 2019, 09:27:22 pm
Usually I set the author to something like DGraser <dgraser@example.com> but I can just mention authorship in the comment. I take it you're fine with the LGPL licensing?
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 23, 2019, 03:02:15 am
Looks good, better then Doodles where it is hard to see the difference between the lit and unlit segments, thanks.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 23, 2019, 05:04:15 am
Nice, does it cuckoo?
Going to have to think about a separate package for some of these skins as,
Code: [Select]
D:\sys\apps\DSSaver\Modules\PrClock>du -h
116K    ./bmetal02
384K    ./cuckoo
488K    ./Digi
492K    ./Digi_red
216K    ./gclock01
124K    ./pmetal02
40K     ./sclock01
160K    ./smetal02
2.1M    .
while dssaver_v24.exe is currently 1.6 MBs.
I am tempted to replace the existing ones though as yours are nicer to me and older installs will still have any I remove.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 23, 2019, 05:17:56 am
Dave

You may want to hold off on the digi_red.  I used all Doodles graphics, but noticed he is missing some graphics which means I am missing some.  I will see if I can determine which ones and fix.

I fixed it and reattached and am deleting the earlier version.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 23, 2019, 08:54:52 am
One last skin.

This is a gold theme,  Dave, pick the best ones for inclusion with the DSaver program.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 23, 2019, 09:42:52 am
Dave, please download the gold metal theme again.  I found some things I needed to clean up. 
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 23, 2019, 06:29:18 pm
Dave, I updated the cuckoo clock.  I modified the clock numbers a littel bit.  I have attached.  See which one you prefer.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 23, 2019, 09:51:37 pm
An alternative classic OS/2 icon file for the game Dodgin' Diamond II (http://www.os2site.com/sw/games/sdl/dd2-0.2.2-os2_.zip), to replace a dark original 128x128 screenshot icon. The icon file is based on the source file GFX.BMP.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 23, 2019, 10:44:12 pm
Here's a test build of the screensaver with David's work (not yet committed). Package grew by a third.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 24, 2019, 12:33:55 am
Package grew by a third.

I didn't actually try the package because of the targeted CPU, but OptiPNG or PNGcrush seems to be able to save a few bytes. 345.7 KiB versus 353.8 KiB for the cuckoo subdirectory. 40.8 KiB versus 72.2 KiB for the Digi_red subdirectory.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 24, 2019, 12:52:05 am
Are you running something older then a Pentium Pro?
Yes, I was thinking about pngcrush.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 24, 2019, 01:26:12 am
Here's a test build of the screensaver with David's work (not yet committed). Package grew by a third.

Uninstalled the old package and installed this version.  Installation was good and all new packages were installed.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 24, 2019, 03:06:10 am
Thanks for testing. Thanks to Alfredo for redoing the Wis. Upgrades should update in place, including the folder. New installs should use \sys in ArcaOS, \ecs in eCS and \os2\apps in plain OS/2
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on September 24, 2019, 05:21:10 am
NConvert (drop targets)    (NCONVERT.EXE)

"Solved". There won't be such thing as a NConvert (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/graphics/convert&file=nconvert6881.wpi) icon. Instead I've used their XnView.com logo.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 24, 2019, 10:27:01 am
Here's a test build of the screensaver with David's work (not yet committed). Package grew by a third.

Dave, I cleaned up some garbage that I saw on the bmetal02, pmetal02, and smetal02 skins.  reattached.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 25, 2019, 04:29:07 am
Thanks, updated the earlier package I uploaded.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 27, 2019, 01:51:36 am
Right now, I've just been adding them without committing, eventually I'll prune them down and put a zip (or Warpin package) of the others up. The packages I posted are just test packages, though I am kind of hoping for translations as well :)
Right now I'm leaning towards replacing all the originals as I never much liked them and yours look much better.
Once again, thanks for posting your doodles.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on September 29, 2019, 10:59:34 pm
You seem to have zipped up the wrong skn file (pmetal02.skn)
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on September 30, 2019, 01:56:41 am
I have to apologize for the earlier release.  I got in a hurry and missed some things.  Here it is hopefully for the last time.

Touched up the back.png a little more.  Replaced the one in the Peacock module with this PNG.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 01, 2019, 10:43:08 am
Quicky (QUICKY.EXE)

Not solved yet. The size of its original UI artwork is 22x22, and the (attached) least worse one can have an ugly shadow. I'm considering to use a generic, classic, generally available formatted-text icon file instead, like existing DOCUMNT*.ICO files.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 02, 2019, 02:54:23 am
A possibly missing category: better looking 40x40 icons for Microsoft Office 4.3, fully based on the original 32x32 icons (I'll attachg a few, FWIW). I've used PowerPoint to check my library of icons, but AFAICT there's no larger icon which looks like ye olde, classic 32x32 PowerPoint icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 02, 2019, 08:12:19 am
Dave

On the simple clock and simple color clock, I fixed the second hand.  There was some fuzz on the exterior of the clock I originally did not see.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 02, 2019, 08:36:19 am
Quicky (QUICKY.EXE)

Not solved yet. The size of its original UI artwork is 22x22, and the (attached) least worse one can have an ugly shadow. I'm considering to use a generic, classic, generally available formatted-text icon file instead, like existing DOCUMNT*.ICO files.

I took you icon and made the four sizes.  I did away with the shadow.  Although it looked ok on a white background, the same could not be said for a dark background.  If you have already finished your icon or don't care for this one, just don't use this one.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 02, 2019, 10:48:22 am
Dave

Just did the peacock clock in 512, a smaller size.  See which one you like better.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 03, 2019, 12:48:40 pm
Although it looked ok on a white background, the same could not be said for a dark background.  If you have already finished your icon or don't care for this one, just don't use this one.

I'll use this for Quicky, for one because it's based on the original artwork. It has 2 modes, edit and view. My icon would have been a view-icon, but edit is better because it's almost a simple word processor without printed output. So editing is more relevant than reading a result.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 03, 2019, 04:58:03 pm
A possibly missing category: better looking 40x40 icons for Microsoft Office 4.3, fully based on the original 32x32 icons

Two weren't that hard. I'll attach screenshots of different sizes, but each matches the ratios of the original 32x32 icons. The same method won't work for Access/Exces and Excel, because the images are slightly different.

The grey background has to be replaced by transparency, but now I'll post original *.PNG source files instead of edited *.ICO images. This may be as good/large as the scaled original images will get.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 04, 2019, 03:18:34 am
OS/2 icon files, only the original 32x32 icon and a new 40x40 icon, for Microsoft Excel 5.0a, Microsoft PowerPoint 4.0 and Microsoft Word 6.0a. No smaller sizes, because the single goal was to create a better looking larger icon which still looks the original one. If you want cool or more modern non-VGA Microsoft Office icons, then perhaps use a newer image source file than Office 4.3 (https://winworldpc.com/product/microsoft-office/4x)'s.

I'll look at Access 2.0's too, but there the background of larger image sources is different (no text, different ratios of items).
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 04, 2019, 09:42:24 am
Dave

The bouncing padlock screensaver.  Can the lock be replaced with a different graphic and if so, is it a OS/2 icon, bitmap or PNG?   If an OS/2 icon, can it be replaced with a bitmap or PNG?
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 04, 2019, 03:02:40 pm
I'll look at Access 2.0's too.

Here is it. Only 32x32 (original) and 40x40 (new) again, mainly to not make the background look like some bar code. It's a mix of several images.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on October 04, 2019, 04:33:52 pm
Dave

The bouncing padlock screensaver.  Can the lock be replaced with a different graphic and if so, is it a OS/2 icon, bitmap or PNG?   If an OS/2 icon, can it be replaced with a bitmap or PNG?

It's just a bmp, Padlock.bmp. It's added to the DLL as a resource so likely has to stay as a bitmap.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Doug Bissett on October 04, 2019, 08:27:46 pm
Quote
It's just a bmp, Padlock.bmp. It's added to the DLL as a resource so likely has to stay as a bitmap.

Why not just make a new screensaver, and leave the old ones alone?
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on October 05, 2019, 01:37:06 am
Quote
It's just a bmp, Padlock.bmp. It's added to the DLL as a resource so likely has to stay as a bitmap.

Why not just make a new screensaver, and leave the old ones alone?

So far we've just added skins to the Pretty Clock module, none of which have been committed yet. I am inclined to swap some of David's work with the originals as they do look much better and the rest can be packaged separately. They're easy to add to an install.
As for the Padlock, that was made, with these instructions, http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Creating_modules_for_Doodle's_Screen_Saver_-_Part_2 (http://www.edm2.com/index.php/Creating_modules_for_Doodle's_Screen_Saver_-_Part_2) from eCSBall. I also made the ArcaOS one from the eCSBall.
Don't know what David is thinking of doing with the padlock, wouldn't hurt to swap in a better bitmap or make a new module.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 07, 2019, 05:20:55 am
Folder icons for ColEm/2 (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/apps/emulator&file=colem100.zip), a ColecoVision emulator. The icon files are based on the quite dark, but nevertheless unchanged original ColEm/2 icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 07, 2019, 07:33:30 am
And folder icons for BackAgain/2000.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 08, 2019, 03:24:24 am
I am kind of hoping for translations as well :)

Okay, albeit I'm not using it. Some minor space-related fixes w.r.t. SS_NL.HLP and SS_NL.MSG, in smaller chunks. No credits please:

Replace "cherm beveilig" by "schermbeveilig" (removal of the space).
Replace "achtwoord beveilig" by "achtwoordbeveilig" (removal of the space).

Sometimes it's already good. like "Schermbeveiligingsmodules' in the MSG file. In general they'll often have translated two words (password protection). In Dutch that may imply safer passwords (password protection) instead of protection by using a password (passwordprotection).

The rather long HLP file subject "Het instellen van de taal van de scherm beveiliging", almost French with lots of "de la" and "du" (the setting of the language of the screen protection), can be replaced by the shorter "Instellen schermbeveiligingstaal" (set screenprotection'slanguage). Or, perhaps better, "Instellen taal schermbeveiliging" (set(ting the) language (of the) screen protection). Or just "Instellen taal", set language, if that;'s clear enough. If screen protection is "screen protector", then replace 'schermbeveiliging" by "schermbeveiliger" ("Instellen taal schermbeveiliger"). Setting the language of the screen protecting software. That may be the best match, but that's unverified.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on October 08, 2019, 04:55:13 am
I am kind of hoping for translations as well :)

Okay, albeit I'm not using it. Some minor space-related fixes w.r.t. SS_NL.HLP and SS_NL.MSG, in smaller chunks. No credits please:

Replace "cherm beveilig" by "schermbeveilig" (removal of the space).

This is actually "scherm beveiliger", should it still be "schermbeveilig"?

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Replace "achtwoord beveilig" by "achtwoordbeveilig" (removal of the space).
Likewise, this is actually "Wachtwoord beveiliging", should it be  "achtwoordbeveilig" Also I find "wachtwoord beveiligingsvenster" and "wachtwoord beveiligd" Perhaps I should attach the IPF.

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Sometimes it's already good. like "Schermbeveiligingsmodules' in the MSG file. In general they'll often have translated two words (password protection). In Dutch that may imply safer passwords (password protection) instead of protection by using a password (passwordprotection).

The rather long HLP file subject "Het instellen van de taal van de scherm beveiliging", almost French with lots of "de la" and "du" (the setting of the language of the screen protection), can be replaced by the shorter "Instellen schermbeveiligingstaal" (set screenprotection'slanguage). Or, perhaps better, "Instellen taal schermbeveiliging" (set(ting the) language (of the) screen protection). Or just "Instellen taal", set language, if that;'s clear enough. If screen protection is "screen protector", then replace 'schermbeveiliging" by "schermbeveiliger" ("Instellen taal schermbeveiliger"). Setting the language of the screen protecting software. That may be the best match, but that's unverified.

Thanks, I'll attach the IPF due to confusion as mentioned above.
Also I added NLS support to CairoShapes and currently only have a Spanish translation, I'll attach the simple en.msg, both in a zip.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 08, 2019, 03:16:15 pm
This is actually "scherm beveiliger", should it still be "schermbeveilig"?

Likewise, this is actually "Wachtwoord beveiliging", should it be  "achtwoordbeveilig" Also I find "wachtwoord beveiligingsvenster" and "wachtwoord beveiligd" Perhaps I should attach the IPF.

Thanks, I'll attach the IPF due to confusion as mentioned above. Also I added NLS support to CairoShapes and currently only have a Spanish translation, I'll attach the simple en.msg, both in a zip.

No, it's a case-sensitive binary replacement string which accounts for both "Schem..." and "scherm". And for all suffixes. A simple search & replace will do, without having to touch any other character. As discussed recently in a browser name-thread, -er works the same in several languages anyway. Protect, protecter. Just replace all occurances of "cherm beveilig" by "chermbeveilig".

Same. It will fix more than it will brake. "wachtwoordbeveiligingsvenster" is okay, and so is "wachtwoordbeveiligd". The "s" between "beveiliging" and "venster" is the same "s" as yours. hers, his, Tom's. An alternative is "venster (of the) wachtwoordbeveiliging". Just replace the text as instructed, without touching any another characters. Case-insensitive ("cherm Beveilig"  -> "chermbeveilig"). Delete the space; don't change "screener" to "creen". Do keep wrapping lines in mind ("screen0D0Aprotection" instead of "screen20protection").

You'll be able to search & replace w.r.t. the on-topic file. I'll look at the other one later, and wouldn't mind some translation requests-thread with a few sentences or words, with context, per day. In the case of Doodle's we're talking about a full manual, of a product which I'm not using. Hence the restriction. Extra spaces are occuring quite a few times, without having to review (and possibly discuss) a full manual.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 08, 2019, 03:59:45 pm
I'll attach the simple en.msg, both in a zip.

A candidate for a translation requests-thread, despite of the fact that the MSG file may be compiled. So simple, that Google gets it right, albeit in Dutch you'd use the rather detailed fixed expression "shapes AND figures" less often.

English: Cairo Shapes
Dutch: unchanged, copied or borrowed words. "Cairo shapes" (not uppercasing each word) would be overdoing it.

English: Shows different colorful shapes and figures.
Dutch: Toont verschillende kleurrijke vormen en figuren. Assuming a context of ("Dave's solution now ) Shows different ...".

Here the important full linguistic context is missing: "Using the Cairo library.", and it may be easier to replace "library" by "DLL" because the isolated last "L" isn't the first character of a Dutch bibliotheek. In IBM's Dutch (source: OS MSG file) DLLs are "dynamic-link-modules", but you aren't using the word module in English.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 09, 2019, 09:11:41 am
An update, of the 3 *.ICO files (folder closed, folder opened, NConvert.EXE) only.
Oops, this is a hard one. With a bad monitor it still doesn't look alright...
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 09, 2019, 02:16:22 pm
English: Shows different colorful shapes and figures.
Dutch: Toont verschillende kleurrijke vormen en figuren. Assuming a context of ("Dave's solution now ) Shows different ...".

Here the important full linguistic context is missing: "Using the Cairo library."

Google's German translation, one of the eCS languages, seems to be right too: Zeigt verschiedene farbenfrohe Formen und Figuren..

What's the context of the MSG text "Using the Cairo library."?
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on October 09, 2019, 04:45:46 pm
Cairo is the library that takes care of the drawing, similar to PDF or PS. It is also the library that draws Mozilla excepting the frame and widgets. https://www.cairographics.org/ (https://www.cairographics.org/)
Strictly speaking, library is more accurate then DLL, which is a type of library, Dynamically Linked Library.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 09, 2019, 05:44:28 pm
I do mean the (missing) context of the text to be translated. It can be a header of a manual, it can be a banner, it can be an error text, and so on.

Do you have a matching sentence, i.e. context, or otherwise a technical context? Translating is not just a matter of translating words. The context should make clear how to interpret the specific text, when there may be mote than one match. The word "Using" may be more difficult than "library".

For the L of the DLL I'll probably use IBM's translation ("module"). In OS/2's Dutch a library is what you'll find in the x:\OS2\HELP subdirectory. To show a case where context could matter, "HELP LIBPATH" produces (translated):

dynalink-library
DLL-module
DLL
DLL-file

OSO001H.MSG contains (I didn't check the whole file):

module
dynamic-link-module

So almost a library of choices, but the point is that the option "library" is missing. Dynalink-library occurs twice, but that's a rather unusual word. Anyway, I want context of the whole  "Using ..."-part. To avoid the introduction of animals when it's raining cats and dogs in English, while it's raining pipe handles in Dutch. For example, embed it in a sentence or story. Like "(I am) Using (the) ... library (at the moment)". Or "(Manual, Chapter 2,) Using ...". The clarifying context may influence what's right, or better.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on October 09, 2019, 06:17:00 pm
Well the Cairo clock's translation is 'MOD_DESC="Tijd en huidige datum.\nMet gebruik van de Cairo bibliotheek.";'  Might be best
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 10, 2019, 07:39:14 pm
Met gebruik van de Cairo bibliotheek."

That's "By using (of) the Cairo library".

May I suggest "Met gebruikmaking van de Cairo library.", to respect the context and to borrow the word library (as a part of the more common L of DLL)?

You'd use "met gebruikmaking van" (by making use of) like: "I'm not a programmer, but I'm recompiling Quicky by using Smedley's build environment". I didn't see your other text ("Tijd en ...") with an editor.

I don't know how the Germans would translate library. "Erstellt mit der Cairo ..."?
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Dave Yeo on October 11, 2019, 02:24:25 am
Met gebruik van de Cairo bibliotheek."

That's "By using (of) the Cairo library".

Which seems accurate.

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May I suggest "Met gebruikmaking van de Cairo library.", to respect the context and to borrow the word library (as a part of the more common L of DLL)?

You'd use "met gebruikmaking van" (by making use of) like: "I'm not a programmer, but I'm recompiling Quicky by using Smedley's build environment". I didn't see your other text ("Tijd en ...") with an editor.

 bibliotheek is only for books? Don't forget that libraries don't have to be a DLL. There's static libraries, which can use a program (AR) that can be called a librarian for creating the table of contents and X11 device drivers are shared libraries like *nix uses

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I don't know how the Germans would translate library. "Erstellt mit der Cairo ..."?

Christian Hennecke translated it as, "Verwendet die Bibliothek Cairo."  Christian is a programmer so likely understands programming libraries.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 11, 2019, 12:12:57 pm
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That's "By using (of) the Cairo library".

Which seems accurate.

bibliotheek is only for books?

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I don't know how the Germans would translate library. "Erstellt mit der Cairo ..."?

Christian Hennecke translated it as, "Verwendet die Bibliothek Cairo."  Christian is a programmer so likely understands programming libraries.

Seems. "Met gebruikmaking van" (fixed expression, by using) and "gebruik van" (using) can (!) be as different as using drugs to chemically enhance your paint (applied usage), and using (consuming) drugs to paint.

Still yes, in IBM OS/2's Dutch. Again, just use "library", if anything to not introduce even more unusual words with the same technical meaning. Programmers will know what you mean. The Germs are more likely to translate words, while the cloggies can rightfully claim in the highest percentage of people in the EU with English as a second language. In OS/2 a bibliotheek is what you'll find in x:\OS2\HELP.

Google will translate "Verwendet die Bibliothek Cairo" as "maakt gebruik van de bibliotheek Cairo". The full context is still missing, so I don't know if "Using the Cairo libary" should be translated as "Met gebruikmaking van de Cairo library" or the slightly lesser "Maakt gebruikt van de Cairo library". The context still is key:

"(This is created) Met gebruikmaking van de Cairo library.", or "(It) Maakt gebruikt van de Cairo library." (not a proper sentence without something representing the "ït").

So don't be afraid to not translate "library", and next time please provide a context...  ;) Without a context we're still discussing a very simple text. Screenshot, sample sentence, ...

Christian's "verwendet" and "die Bïbliothek" seem okay. Verwendet also because it supports my "gebuikmaking"-proposal(s), and I cannot confirm nor deny that a German OS/2 refers to a library as a "Bibliothek". With a Dutch OS/2 a "bibliotheek" is a collection of digital books, while a "library"avoids all technical and linguistic discussions. Earlier I've translated something related to xCenter here, where you may have noticed that I hardly had to change anything. And there the context of (the unverifiable) "any CPU" was important. Pick any number (if it's 4 you'll win), any number is right, ...

Context, context, context. Some English words may even have an opposite meaning, in English. In this case you can see that "Gebruik van" as a source is wrong, because Christian guessed (or assumed, or verified) you meant "Met gebruikmaking van". Context, context, context. Not the possible error(s) of an existing word-by-word-by-word translation.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 13, 2019, 02:06:36 pm
The NConvert ones are harder than expected, and need more work. With a bad monitor it still doesn't look alright... ???

Meanwhile here's a 128x128 PNG icon file for ScummVM (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?sh=1&button=Search&key=scummvm), based on the 512x512 original icon file.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 14, 2019, 05:17:38 am
The NConvert ones are harder than expected

BTW: as stated earlier, there is no such thing as an original NConvert icon. There is an alternative, their XnConvert icon, but that's a different product. Difficulties have nothing to do with the center of the styled eye, so I'll continue to use their generic logo. Nevertheless here's XnConvert's, FWIW:
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 14, 2019, 06:16:14 pm
The NConvert ones are harder than expected

BTW: as stated earlier, there is no such thing as an original NConvert icon. There is an alternative, their XnConvert icon, but that's a different product. Difficulties have nothing to do with the center of the styled eye, so I'll continue to use their generic logo. Nevertheless here's XnConvert's, FWIW:

FWIW, I attempted the two os/2 icons. One is 24 bit and the other is 8 bit.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 16, 2019, 01:21:23 pm
And a fixed, alternative NConvert icon file. If you have installed the NConvert WarpIN package, then copy any of the NConvert.ICO files to the directory of NCONVERT.EXE. Optionally assign the earlier folder icons to the folder of NConvert.

Icons can be mixed. Then the folder icon represents their brand or whole family of products, and the EXE's icon represents whatever you prefer: the family of products (wrong), or the different product XnConvert (wrong too). At 40x40 and smaller David's may work better. Mainly due to less original details, and it's not trying to look like a styled eye that hard.

In the end I first changed the transparent pixels to a color which somehow matched the preferred color of the border better, before resizing, which was easier to undo and fix than software interpreting transparency as white pixels.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 16, 2019, 02:32:45 pm
BTW, some of the Toolkit v4.52's icons look bad at 40x40 (OS/2 Sample Programs-folder). FWIW.

PM$tock's icon was a surprise too. 128x128, but possibly the worst resolution to view it. Rendered at 40x40 it's actually not that bad, but otherwise a weird and ugly mix of a detailed bar chart (volume), the text "DJI" drawn by hand, and too much green and transparent paint used to draw a line. As if it was designed to be rendered. I'll attach an ICONEDIT.EXE screenshot, for entertainment purposes only.

@David, you stated that circles were easy with your tools. Can you post 4, please? Width of the circle 40, 32, 20 and 16. Outlined or filled. If the color matters, then it's very dark brown. Almost black. I've got a 18x18 image source (BALL.PCX of the game Rebound (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/games/action&file=rebound.zip)), which is a 16x16 ball with a border. I want to use the shape of "perfect" circles, to compensate for the low-res look of the game. I can enlarge the ball myself, e.g. from 16x16 to 40x40, and next use the circles as a "paste target". I'll attach the 16x16 ball (with its border), but I'm willing to copy & paste myself.

@David/2, regarding circles and WhoIs: would it be possible to combine a plain-jain globe (simpler than the attached sample image, and without details like network connections) with a slightly larger interrobang character(s) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang) to replace the question mark, mainly for size 40x40!? The question mark of the attached sample image doesn't work at 40x40. When we get rid of the global network connection, then the interrobang character(s) may express the "wtf ru!?". I like the concept, an unusual 3D globe with network connections and a 3D'ish ?-button, but there are too... many... details for 40x40. For one we may need a larger ?, and we may not be able to keep using the connections. Instead of the interrobang character(s) a black silhouette of a human spy may work too, as the background of a question mark.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 18, 2019, 02:56:44 am
Hi Andre

I was out of town for a couple of days.  Got back today.  Then the power button on my computer broke.  I will have to remember not to turn my computer off.  I may not get it up again.

Did two whois icons.  The original and another one with the question mark modified.  I tried the interrobang.  I could not get it to look good at the same sizes.

I have attached the rings also with the icons.  You can always change it to the color you need.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 18, 2019, 05:01:45 am
A quickly made rebound icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 18, 2019, 01:54:07 pm
Regarding 80 and/or 128: I'm not using ArcaOS nor eCS 2.x, but at https://www.arcanoae.com/shop/arcaos-5-commercial-edtion (https://www.arcanoae.com/shop/arcaos-5-commercial-edtion) I noticed that it has "Scalable desktop icons, up to 128×128(, based on popular Linux desktop themes).". If possible, available and relevant I'll try to use 128x128 and the AOS naming convention ("lowercase_128px.png"). I don't know if 128x128 will be scaled down to 80x80, but 128x128 is the advertized supported size indeed.

Rebound (REBOUND.EXE) (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-search.php?sh=1&button=Search&key=rebound-r2)

Wow! Solved, by David's (who may now be busy creating a backup :-\).

I'll change my inferior, lesser, pathetic file's number to 2. Which is just the game's small 16x16 brown ball artwork, enlarged by using the consistency and quality of the simple rings. Those rings were more productive and useful than expected by me. Counting or recording numbers of pixels, versus guessing rendered pixels and matching inconsistencies. I'll keep the rings (/ dark ball). It helps.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 18, 2019, 02:16:10 pm
another one with the question mark modified.  I tried the interrobang.  I could not get it to look good at the same sizes.

Excellent. I was fearing a new globe. I guess I like this one because the colors of the globe aren't trying to be realistic, so it's more clear that you are not looking for something related to geography, and the modified question mark improves the quality at 40x40. I already noticed the original one was too bright/white at 40x40, at least with some monitors.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 18, 2019, 05:03:55 pm
Folder icons, based on David's modified question mark-theme, for a WhoIs folder.

And two icons for Microsoft Office (MSOFFICE.EXE (https://winworldpc.com/product/microsoft-office/4x), a Win-OS/2 toolbar) and Microsoft Organization Chart (ORGCHART.EXE). Only the size 40x40 is new.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 20, 2019, 05:48:43 pm
A forgotten category: a few system-related utilities. Here's a quick one for S.M.A.R.T. monitor (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/h-viewer.php?dir=/pub/os2/util/disk&file=smartmon.zip), size 128x128 only.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 21, 2019, 05:59:08 am
And a classic icon file for the S.M.A.R.T. monitor, based on an eCS drive icon.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: André Heldoorn on October 21, 2019, 06:25:33 pm
A forgotten category: a few system-related utilities.

Just to be complete, all are text-mode apps:

Code: [Select]
CPUInfo   (CPUINFO.EXE, may be Dave Yeo's, shows flags and properties of the CPU(s))
Dhrystone (DHRY.EXE, CPU benchmark with YMMV-results, I saw an unclear grey blob as an unofficial icon)
DISKIO    (DISKIO.EXE, disk benchmark)
SysInfo   (SYSINFO.EXE, i.e. not SysInfo/2, a text-mode dump of several basic systeem settings and proporties)
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 24, 2019, 12:29:45 am
A forgotten category: a few system-related utilities.

Just to be complete, all are text-mode apps:

Code: [Select]
CPUInfo   (CPUINFO.EXE, may be Dave Yeo's, shows flags and properties of the CPU(s))
Dhrystone (DHRY.EXE, CPU benchmark with YMMV-results, I saw an unclear grey blob as an unofficial icon)
DISKIO    (DISKIO.EXE, disk benchmark)
SysInfo   (SYSINFO.EXE, i.e. not SysInfo/2, a text-mode dump of several basic systeem settings and proporties)

Made a few quick generic disktest icons. Used a white background for most. Trash, modify, or use any or all.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 25, 2019, 03:42:24 am
Just doodling again.

Made another pretty clock which I am calling lemon lime.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: Martin Iturbide on October 25, 2019, 01:54:01 pm
Hi

I missed something on the road. How it is supposed to be used the clock skins? On which OS/2 program are supported?

Regards
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on October 25, 2019, 02:59:02 pm
Hi

I missed something on the road. How it is supposed to be used the clock skins? On which OS/2 program are supported?

Regards
Just copy the folder and skin to the

drive:\sys\apps\dSSaver\modules\prclock\

Right click on desktop and select properties > screen saver > page3

Then select Pretty Clock and the module should be there.  Configure it and pick the "Start Now" button to see what it looks like.  If you don't like it, you can always delete the folder and the skn. Pretty clock is where you select the different clock modules for your screen saver, if you so choose.
Title: Re: David's Doodles
Post by: David Graser on November 11, 2019, 09:11:17 pm
Doodling again.  Playing around with another PNG folder scheme.