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Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: Today at 02:06:36 pm »
The NConvert ones are harder than expected, and need more work. With a bad monitor it still doesn't look alright... ???

Meanwhile here's a 128x128 PNG icon file for ScummVM, based on the 512x512 original icon file.

Utilities / Re: Color labels
« on: Today at 01:56:35 pm »
a way to label (for example with a color) or mark (with an icon/image) a file like Mac does?
Maybe reading/setting a sort of EA?

I'm not aware of what a Mac does nor what it looks like, but you can use a file type to set an icon if the file name has no fixed pattern. You may need something in the middle to assign the right marked icon.

I can create a "PDF file" called "C:\I_hate_file_extensions!!!" with a PDF icon because of the file type (EA), but I'll need something extra to change the file type to "Printed PDF file" with a matching marked PDF icon later. Without using CGI to modify and replace an existing icon, that is.

Hardware / Re: HP Printer support
« on: October 11, 2019, 04:31:31 pm »
supporting at least one brand of printer is strategic, and HP is at least commonly sold in USA.

Presumably not only in the USA. Mine's a HP too, but with a classic parallel port (and matching port replicators) to avoid your issues.

Either way I'd support the concept of limiting the number of supported brands/models/types. Let's say 3 notebooks, 3 desktops and 3 servers per brand, with a choice of 3 "co-operative" brands (cheap, less cheap, professional). Renewed once in a while. That may be better than trying, but failing, to support *.* perfectly.

You may have to fund bww for now, but selecting a HP color printer for home users seems perfectly reasonable to me. We already cannot go to a random shop to buy random hardware, so it'll be a strategic choice to restrict ourselves to a few printers of a few brands. Like HP, which makes sense indeed. Even if I don't need your specific software solution.

Programming / Re: Suggestion to assess software portability to OS/2
« on: October 11, 2019, 01:57:50 pm »
I'd start by looking at the dependencies, here, under Linux.

The level or quality of the assessment is leading indeed. For the quickest assesment you could assume that there's no matching. documented OpenGL library for OS/2 yet, and stop. If I'm asking you to port something, because I don't have GCC installed, then you may stop right there. No OpenGL. A next level would be to check that the documentation is right. If so, then can OpenGL be ported. If so, quickly?

A starting point could be upgrading existing ports. A next step could be a port which requires a minor change (like replacing <win.h> by <os2.h>), or a port which requires a library you don't have installed yet (as you may have noticed, mister Ko tends to release several libraries, with source code and changes,  before releasing a new version of VLC, so you can assess what he's doing w.r.t. those required libraries).

If I'm requesting a port, then I'll take "Sorry, no OpenGL" as an answer. An example of all of the above may be Xpdf. You could try to port and release some of the EXEs of Xpdf easily, an assessment by compiling and an existing real request of me, but you can stop when Qt is involved and when it gets too difficult for a very quick "compile-only"port. Even for Elbert Pol.

Internet / Re: PMMail and EARLYMEMINIT=TRUE problem?
« on: October 11, 2019, 01:37:21 pm »
Today, I also discovered that doing an update, with ANPM (RPM/YUM), can cause DLLs to lose their settings to load high. ... It is probably a good idea to use the HIGHMEM utility to redo those settings after each update.

Yes, and of course the distribution method nor utility matters. With the ZIP files and without a @unixroot you'd probably be more aware of the issue of lost customized settings, because then there's nothing which hides the "complicated installation stuff" for you. I did see some firefox-highmem-45_9_0-1_oc00 file, but I couldn't care less which marked DLLs this distribution includes. Only the FF ones, like XUL.DLL, or all.

The under-(re)construction-installer for MozTurbo won't check DLLs to notice a changed setting, but it can be used to mark all qualifying DLLs again. Per relevant product (FF/SM/TB). Or use e.g. an own CMD file with ABOVE512.EXE or HIGHMEM.EXE indeed, to cover all relevant products with one CMD file.

Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: October 11, 2019, 12:12:57 pm »
That's "By using (of) the Cairo library".

Which seems accurate.

bibliotheek is only for books?

I don't know how the Germans would translate library. "Erstellt mit der Cairo ..."?

Christian Hennecke translated it as, "Verwendet die Bibliothek Cairo."  Christian is a programmer so likely understands programming libraries.

Seems. "Met gebruikmaking van" (fixed expression, by using) and "gebruik van" (using) can (!) be as different as using drugs to chemically enhance your paint (applied usage), and using (consuming) drugs to paint.

Still yes, in IBM OS/2's Dutch. Again, just use "library", if anything to not introduce even more unusual words with the same technical meaning. Programmers will know what you mean. The Germs are more likely to translate words, while the cloggies can rightfully claim in the highest percentage of people in the EU with English as a second language. In OS/2 a bibliotheek is what you'll find in x:\OS2\HELP.

Google will translate "Verwendet die Bibliothek Cairo" as "maakt gebruik van de bibliotheek Cairo". The full context is still missing, so I don't know if "Using the Cairo libary" should be translated as "Met gebruikmaking van de Cairo library" or the slightly lesser "Maakt gebruikt van de Cairo library". The context still is key:

"(This is created) Met gebruikmaking van de Cairo library.", or "(It) Maakt gebruikt van de Cairo library." (not a proper sentence without something representing the "ït").

So don't be afraid to not translate "library", and next time please provide a context...  ;) Without a context we're still discussing a very simple text. Screenshot, sample sentence, ...

Christian's "verwendet" and "die Bïbliothek" seem okay. Verwendet also because it supports my "gebuikmaking"-proposal(s), and I cannot confirm nor deny that a German OS/2 refers to a library as a "Bibliothek". With a Dutch OS/2 a "bibliotheek" is a collection of digital books, while a "library"avoids all technical and linguistic discussions. Earlier I've translated something related to xCenter here, where you may have noticed that I hardly had to change anything. And there the context of (the unverifiable) "any CPU" was important. Pick any number (if it's 4 you'll win), any number is right, ...

Context, context, context. Some English words may even have an opposite meaning, in English. In this case you can see that "Gebruik van" as a source is wrong, because Christian guessed (or assumed, or verified) you meant "Met gebruikmaking van". Context, context, context. Not the possible error(s) of an existing word-by-word-by-word translation.

Programming / Re: Suggestion to assess software portability to OS/2
« on: October 11, 2019, 12:01:29 am »
Is there something you suggest to try to spot quickly how portable it is?

Just try to build it and select the type of possible errors and warnings which you are willing to fix, while keeping in mind how important the software to be ported is(n't)? The compiler may produce all relevant error messages, like a missing library file or function, code errors, and so on. Without having to rely on documented requirements.

The more you want, for example un-Unixified code with an OS/2 icon file and a GUI, the harder it will get. Obviously an AUTOEXEC.BAT-sorter may be a better starting point than a wishlist with fatal requirements. Regarding your wishlist, I can see a few possible libraries which probably aren't available for OS/2 anyway. So then such a library is a better starting point than the wishlist item.

Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: October 10, 2019, 07:39:14 pm »
Met gebruik van de Cairo bibliotheek."

That's "By using (of) the Cairo library".

May I suggest "Met gebruikmaking van de Cairo library.", to respect the context and to borrow the word library (as a part of the more common L of DLL)?

You'd use "met gebruikmaking van" (by making use of) like: "I'm not a programmer, but I'm recompiling Quicky by using Smedley's build environment". I didn't see your other text ("Tijd en ...") with an editor.

I don't know how the Germans would translate library. "Erstellt mit der Cairo ..."?

Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: October 09, 2019, 05:44:28 pm »
I do mean the (missing) context of the text to be translated. It can be a header of a manual, it can be a banner, it can be an error text, and so on.

Do you have a matching sentence, i.e. context, or otherwise a technical context? Translating is not just a matter of translating words. The context should make clear how to interpret the specific text, when there may be mote than one match. The word "Using" may be more difficult than "library".

For the L of the DLL I'll probably use IBM's translation ("module"). In OS/2's Dutch a library is what you'll find in the x:\OS2\HELP subdirectory. To show a case where context could matter, "HELP LIBPATH" produces (translated):


OSO001H.MSG contains (I didn't check the whole file):


So almost a library of choices, but the point is that the option "library" is missing. Dynalink-library occurs twice, but that's a rather unusual word. Anyway, I want context of the whole  "Using ..."-part. To avoid the introduction of animals when it's raining cats and dogs in English, while it's raining pipe handles in Dutch. For example, embed it in a sentence or story. Like "(I am) Using (the) ... library (at the moment)". Or "(Manual, Chapter 2,) Using ...". The clarifying context may influence what's right, or better.

Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: October 09, 2019, 02:16:22 pm »
English: Shows different colorful shapes and figures.
Dutch: Toont verschillende kleurrijke vormen en figuren. Assuming a context of ("Dave's solution now ) Shows different ...".

Here the important full linguistic context is missing: "Using the Cairo library."

Google's German translation, one of the eCS languages, seems to be right too: Zeigt verschiedene farbenfrohe Formen und Figuren..

What's the context of the MSG text "Using the Cairo library."?

Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: October 09, 2019, 09:11:41 am »
An update, of the 3 *.ICO files (folder closed, folder opened, NConvert.EXE) only.
Oops, this is a hard one. With a bad monitor it still doesn't look alright...

Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: October 08, 2019, 03:59:45 pm »
I'll attach the simple en.msg, both in a zip.

A candidate for a translation requests-thread, despite of the fact that the MSG file may be compiled. So simple, that Google gets it right, albeit in Dutch you'd use the rather detailed fixed expression "shapes AND figures" less often.

English: Cairo Shapes
Dutch: unchanged, copied or borrowed words. "Cairo shapes" (not uppercasing each word) would be overdoing it.

English: Shows different colorful shapes and figures.
Dutch: Toont verschillende kleurrijke vormen en figuren. Assuming a context of ("Dave's solution now ) Shows different ...".

Here the important full linguistic context is missing: "Using the Cairo library.", and it may be easier to replace "library" by "DLL" because the isolated last "L" isn't the first character of a Dutch bibliotheek. In IBM's Dutch (source: OS MSG file) DLLs are "dynamic-link-modules", but you aren't using the word module in English.

Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: October 08, 2019, 03:16:15 pm »
This is actually "scherm beveiliger", should it still be "schermbeveilig"?

Likewise, this is actually "Wachtwoord beveiliging", should it be  "achtwoordbeveilig" Also I find "wachtwoord beveiligingsvenster" and "wachtwoord beveiligd" Perhaps I should attach the IPF.

Thanks, I'll attach the IPF due to confusion as mentioned above. Also I added NLS support to CairoShapes and currently only have a Spanish translation, I'll attach the simple en.msg, both in a zip.

No, it's a case-sensitive binary replacement string which accounts for both "Schem..." and "scherm". And for all suffixes. A simple search & replace will do, without having to touch any other character. As discussed recently in a browser name-thread, -er works the same in several languages anyway. Protect, protecter. Just replace all occurances of "cherm beveilig" by "chermbeveilig".

Same. It will fix more than it will brake. "wachtwoordbeveiligingsvenster" is okay, and so is "wachtwoordbeveiligd". The "s" between "beveiliging" and "venster" is the same "s" as yours. hers, his, Tom's. An alternative is "venster (of the) wachtwoordbeveiliging". Just replace the text as instructed, without touching any another characters. Case-insensitive ("cherm Beveilig"  -> "chermbeveilig"). Delete the space; don't change "screener" to "creen". Do keep wrapping lines in mind ("screen0D0Aprotection" instead of "screen20protection").

You'll be able to search & replace w.r.t. the on-topic file. I'll look at the other one later, and wouldn't mind some translation requests-thread with a few sentences or words, with context, per day. In the case of Doodle's we're talking about a full manual, of a product which I'm not using. Hence the restriction. Extra spaces are occuring quite a few times, without having to review (and possibly discuss) a full manual.

Applications / Re: Firefox 45.9.0 can no longer play Youtube movies ?
« on: October 08, 2019, 02:54:12 pm »
We often talk about this approach, which I am using here successfully by all accounts.

1) code only
Recently I had to unload MOZTURBO and SMTUBRO before a shutdown (eCS, eCenter, INI files close to being corrupted), to make a moved desktop icon stick. FWIW and FTR.

FWIW/2, The "final" generation of the installer InsTurbo will unset settings before setting "code only", without an user having to check all output of the memory-utility.


Applications / Re: David's Doodles
« on: October 08, 2019, 03:24:24 am »
I am kind of hoping for translations as well :)

Okay, albeit I'm not using it. Some minor space-related fixes w.r.t. SS_NL.HLP and SS_NL.MSG, in smaller chunks. No credits please:

Replace "cherm beveilig" by "schermbeveilig" (removal of the space).
Replace "achtwoord beveilig" by "achtwoordbeveilig" (removal of the space).

Sometimes it's already good. like "Schermbeveiligingsmodules' in the MSG file. In general they'll often have translated two words (password protection). In Dutch that may imply safer passwords (password protection) instead of protection by using a password (passwordprotection).

The rather long HLP file subject "Het instellen van de taal van de scherm beveiliging", almost French with lots of "de la" and "du" (the setting of the language of the screen protection), can be replaced by the shorter "Instellen schermbeveiligingstaal" (set screenprotection'slanguage). Or, perhaps better, "Instellen taal schermbeveiliging" (set(ting the) language (of the) screen protection). Or just "Instellen taal", set language, if that;'s clear enough. If screen protection is "screen protector", then replace 'schermbeveiliging" by "schermbeveiliger" ("Instellen taal schermbeveiliger"). Setting the language of the screen protecting software. That may be the best match, but that's unverified.

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