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Internet / Re: Firefox - 45.9.0 for OS/2 GA1.1...anyone...anyone???
« on: April 21, 2018, 08:00:34 pm »
Firefox 45.9.0-3 works fine here, I downloaded the RPM file, unRPM'ed it, copied the @unixroot\usr\lib stuff to my d:\apps\firefox directory after renaming the old one to firefox_old, started fine. I haven't bothered to update anything per the required RPM list as I suspect I'm up to date anyway.

The previous version ran utube videos fine here. I haven't noticed any performance difference or any issues but then its only day 2.
I don't use yum/rpm stuff beyond unrpm'ing any rpm files required.

I have  checked a few youtube videos and every one I have looked at, University of Western Australia material, Hawkwind, Anatomy, etc, have all played well including audio. No stuttering.
FYI: I use an Intel Core2Duo 3GHz (CPU=1 in config.sys) with 4G Ram and a 500G Seagate SATA HD with 64M JFS cache. The only plugins I use are Download Helper and NoScript.

[Edited: grammar and youtube addition]

Hi Dennis,

I would also ask on!forum/ as Louis and a few others maybe able to help you. Saying that, sounds interesting and something I could still try out myself on my aging 77i.

What is going on with Firefox? As it stands, I can leave the browser pointed to a modern, active webpage, and after some time, the system will reset. I've been doing this long enough to recognize kernel corruption. Firefox runs the system out of some resource, and the kernel is not protected from such a shortage.

I back leveled libcx0.dll to libcx-0.6.0-1.oc00.i686.rpm and libc066.dll to libc-0.6.6-32.i686.rpm in an attempt to get Apache2 to run on my non server OS/2 and noticed the computer stopped being able to access the HD, leading to a PC I had to physically turn off. Took me a while to figure out it was the backleveling that did it as I'd previously had a dodgy SATA cable cause similiar problems. I also noticed as soon as I went to utube, bang, the video would start playing, sort of, but I couldn't do anything after that point apart from a cold boot, should have twigged on then it was a resource problem and not a hardware problem.

Replacing both libcx0 and libc066 to the latest versions (which I'd backed up, from libcx-0_6_1-2* and libc066.dll from a testcase one in Jan 2018) appears to have fixed this problem. You might like to try the same as I'm use to using Openoffice, firefox v45.9.0-2, and several other apps at the same time with no problems, including viewing (and mostly downloading) utube videos and university videos from Echo/Blackboard.

Hardware / Re: How to find or extract a Postscript printer driver?
« on: March 04, 2018, 04:44:33 pm »
Martin's reply is in relation to this post up the top, and as he states, the second paragraph.

Later versions of IBM's PostScript printer driver for OS/2 include some tools for importing the PPD file. There are also different versions from third parties derived from the DCDDK source code. So this procedure should still apply.

I hope this message will pass the censorship. So I should better not write about extracting resources or files from Windows self-extracting archives with native OS/2 tools. That's the time when the Linux kids start to piss on command.

You are free to say that but it's still pointless. Your first paragraph was spot on, you get a gold star :)

Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Censorship complaints
« on: February 26, 2018, 08:12:40 pm »
Hi Everyone,

Continuing this thread is pointless as it will degenerate into pointless debate and replies.

Andreas's post that started this was removed for a reason, and instead of thinking about it and moving on, Andreas simply becomes argumentative and controlling.

The purpose of is for people who use or are interested in OS/2 (and it's derivatives) to exchange information, seek help, post ideas, ask honest silly questions etc. All in a FRIENDLY and non threatening environment. If someone threatens the environment, then a moderators job is remove or change that threat.

This website or forum is not a democracy, nor is it subject to anarchy. It is not my domain, nor is it my website and as such there are lines that I can't cross.

While we all have different ways of doing things, a moderators job is to attempt to ensure that people do not unnecessarily feel threatened or that they feel unwelcome for asking a question. os2world is not a free for all, if it was it would cease to operate in a short time frame. I've been around long enough to see what happens to forums that are left open with no enforcement of even basic rules.

Moderators are people, and people are not perfect but when someone is asked more than once to give some thought to a reply, or simply not reply to something unless they have something positive to contribute to that reply, they cannot expect a moderator to keep ignoring both them and their posts. If someone wants to argue the point that they have the freedom to be rude to others on a forum that they do not own or run, they are as I stated in the second post of this thread, welcome to grab a domain and setup their own forums that they themselves control and have the freedom to run as they see fit.

I refer everyone to the second post of this thread as well as the "Rules for the Forum - Code of Conduct" at,1659.0.html

André, trolling is not a good idea, and I might suggest you check a dictionary as well.

Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Censorship complaints
« on: February 23, 2018, 04:07:05 pm »
Hi Dave,

While politeness and respect are important, I think it would be kinda crappy to drive away Andreas. While he does need to learn that sometimes it is better to stay silent, he is knowledgeable and has interesting comments at times.

I would prefer Andreas and others to remain in our community because they have a lot of knowledge, and have been helpful in the past but there comes a point when something has to be said to ensure others are not driven away. Andreas simply needs to give some thought and civility to his answers before he replies.

Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Censorship complaints
« on: February 20, 2018, 07:04:22 pm »
I like people that claim censorship on a forum, you are always free to create your own forum so that you can write whatever you wish but while you have access to a forum run by others, you have to play/abide by that forums rules.

No different to anyone's home you visit, you keep it friendly if you wish to be invited back, if you don't like it buy your own house then you can be yourself in your own home as is your right.

Applications / Re: Open Office 4.1
« on: February 13, 2018, 10:34:45 am »
Hi David,

I already had most of the required files installed from other software but in the readme file for OpenOffice it has:-

To install the above requirements you have two choices. Either RPM/YUM
installation or WPI installation. If you already have a working RPM/YUM
installation (which includes ANPM), then we highly recommend to use RPM/YUM
only. As mixing both might lead to several issues.

   RPM/YUM installation:
   These files can be installed with the following command:   
   yum install libc libgcc1 libgcc-fwd openssl curl libjpeg libxslt libicu zlib libxml2 mmap pthread urpo libstdc++6 libstdc++
   (all one line)
   If some of them are already installed YUM will tell you. Please also
   stay current and do regularly a YUM update.

   WPI installation:
   Download the AOO-4130-GA-rpm.wpi before you start the installation.
   This WPI is not installable. It's just a helper WPI which can be installed from
   the main Apache OpenOffice WPI. This WPI *must* reside in the same directory
   where the Apache OpenOffice WPI resides before installation.

If you like to do things manually and just grab the DLL's, assuming they are not all in AOO-4130-GA-rpm.wpi you can try dl'ing
files from if your not a yum/rpm user.

Applications / Re: Open Office 4.1
« on: February 13, 2018, 08:14:49 am »
Hi David,

All the system requirements installed as per the readme file?

** System requirements **

- OS/2 Warp 4 (FP17 or higher) or eComStation 1.x, 2.x
- 32-bit tcpip stack
- UniClip (search on hobbes for it)
- The following packages must be installed (dll only):
   libc 0.6.6
   gcc 4.9.2
   gcc 4.7.3
   gcc 4.4.4

Off Topic discussions / Re: Great emulator for PDP-11, Bell Research UNIX
« on: February 06, 2018, 06:25:06 pm »
Hi Andreas,

There are many ways to do something, and anyone that's been around computers long enough to know and remember PDP11's etc would normally like to tinker with many things. What suites you probably doesn't suit someone else, and even though there are different programs that emulate given older generation computers, I'm sure they all have strong and weak points. Each to there own, its fine to point out alternatives, though best done in a nice friendly positive manner, I had forgotten about Ersatz.

Like Word processors, sometimes I will use open office, other times something else. Depends on what I'm doing, why, and which program gets the job done the way I like it done.

[Someone with fond memories of PDP's, VAX's, PRO's, Rainbows and even Robins :)
Each of which had good and bad points but exceptional engineering.]

Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: SSL OS/2world
« on: January 24, 2018, 07:50:35 pm »
what are the required steps to get the ssl certificate


Whoever looks after the server needs to install it :)

Applications / Re: New Styler titlebar bitmaps
« on: January 09, 2018, 05:00:35 am »
Create a little commandline cmd file with:-

for %%f in (*) do eautil "%%f" NUL /S

in it.

Sorry, just realised I forgot to say put the switch you want to use where the /S is, /S will clear the EA's.

Gee's my english is atrocious at present.. to early in the morning.. Fixed my grammar, and spelling!

Programming / Re: OS/2 kernel requiring speculative execution patch!!!!
« on: January 05, 2018, 06:59:49 pm »
A good write up, as of what I have currently found is at:-

I am having a problem in getting my head around how these problems occur and transcribing them to how OS/2 manages it's memory, to soon after Christmas :o)

It would at least require someone to write the software to target an OS/2 box, and some means to get it delivered.

Programming / Re: OS/2 kernel requiring speculative execution patch!!!!
« on: January 04, 2018, 06:13:24 pm »
AMD, Arm also affected by data-leak design blunders

There is a nice code snippet link further down that article =>>
The code is for Windows but it gives the general idea what happens and how.

Storage / Re: oddities with OS2AHCI version 2.04
« on: January 02, 2018, 08:28:32 am »
Hi Dave and David,

WPI files open Warpinstaller ok here, my wifes complaining about corrupt files as well so looks like somethings not right with our internet depending on location. I know the Perth(Australia)-Singapore undersea cable is down again so we are going to the world via USA undersea cable at present via Sydney(Australia). I'll try d/ling file again in a weeks time. Thanks for checking.

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