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Programming / Re: Porting Lilypond to OS/2 - eCS - Arca Noae
« on: November 06, 2019, 09:57:51 am »
Given that LilyPond is more of an engraving program than a traditional notation program and thus not very user friendly would something like MuseScore not make more sense? Or does that have even more dependencies?

BTW. For those with not very advanced needs when it comes to notation, old versions of Personal Composer run fine under OS/2, 16 bit version under WinOS/2 and 32 bit versions PE'ised.

Setup & Installation / Re: old eCS CDs
« on: October 26, 2019, 01:54:08 pm »
Bonus question: Does anyone remember where the SmartSuite updates (to 1.7.2 and 1.7.3) are located?

The Lotus FTP site is also still there if you access it via FTP, the HTML front end has been removed however and points to an IBM APAR database

Setup & Installation / Re: How to convert a GPT disk with Win10 to MBR
« on: October 14, 2019, 01:50:34 pm »
I don't want to loose the Win10 installation. How can I convert the disk to MBR so I can add some OS/2 partitions?

This may not be of any help to your use case (laptops with only one drive bay etc), but my preferred way of doing this is to keep it as simple as possible by buying one of those 20 euro 120 gb SSDs from China on ebay and using this as a MBR drive while keeping the windows drive as GUID. This gives me the added bonus of being able to skip using boot managers unless I want to have multiple OS/2 installs on the MBR drive, as I simply use the F10 (F11/F12 or whatever) boot selection as an alternative, if you choose EFI boot the UEFI bootloader only initially sees the GUID drive even though Windows will see that drive after initial boot, while if you choose the BIOS emulation boot the GUID drive gets ignored.

Similarly during install I simply boot the CD drive in either EFI or BIOS mode using the Fxx key depending on which OS I want to install, etc.

Storage / Re: ArcaPS 5.0.4 install only sees 1 hard drive
« on: October 06, 2019, 01:59:39 am »
If there is no AHCI driver in your eCS setup then I am very surprised that you have a working system. 

I think he is talking about two different systems, his current ArcaOS system and an older eCS based system. Remember that eCS 2.0 had AHCI as an optional install.

The FTP server is still around so there is no need for an link, just

If you are installing from diskettes, remember that the boot diskettes will be FAT, but the rest will be XDF format, not FAT. It is possible that the VBox diskette emulation won't work with XDF.

It does work with XDF, it emulates a floppy drive rather than an FS.

Hardware / Re: OS/2 and the Mainframe
« on: September 15, 2019, 08:11:57 pm »
I have a working model of the Data General One.

I misread this as a Data General Nova, and was for about five seconds ... very impressed ...

Setup & Installation / Re: Warp 3 with WINOS2
« on: September 10, 2019, 03:44:51 pm »
There were basically 4 versions of Warp 3 released, one with WInOS/2 built in commonly referred to as "Blue Spine" and a cheaper option called "Red Spine" that installed onto a system that already had DOS/Windows 3.x system installed and converted that into a WinOS/2 system, it allowed you to save money by not paying twice for the DOS/Win license fees. Later there was "OS/2 Connect" which usually came bundled with WinOS/2 but could be had in a WinOS/2 less configuration at the least for corporate customers.

It looks like you have installed Red Spine, which simply does not have WinOS/2 ...

It is possible to install WinOS/2 after a fashion by simply getting hold of a Blue Spine CD and installing it from there, it was also possible to install Win 3.x and hook it up to Red Spine after the install of the latter, but as it is a quarter of a century since I last did that, my memory of how that was done is a bit faded ...

Internet / Re: The new browser / QT5
« on: August 29, 2019, 04:29:24 pm »
And portin RUST to OS/2 is absolutely impossible?

Personally I think it has been a bad idea to come up with such a programming language. Many legacy systems won't get Firefox releases anymore because of that... For example TenFourFox for PowerPC Macs is now doomed.

It is not impossible to port the rust compiler, but it is quite a big project and the only use for it really is for the Mozilla ecosystem, we have had problems maintaining much more popular programming tools in the past due to a lack of available programming talent and/or programmers willing/able to give up their free time to do maintenance  them, so focusing what little resources the community has on it will bring only limited amount of software to the platform.

The language features are also strangely old fashioned with lack of memory management (optional or otherwise) and modularity, especially given that the main problems associated with Mozilla browsers in the past have been related to memory leaks, the lack of a modularity is a pain since the rust toolchain is terribly slow making GGC seem fast by comparison. It would in its current state also need redesigning for use on OS/2, as it stands now it is too memory hungry, in fact has not possible to build the toolchain on 32 bit systems since 2014 (modularity would help a lot with this), although this is a language implementation issue and not a technical issue, i.e. it is perfectly possible to create or modify a rust compiler that works on 32 bit systems, but it will add considerably to the effort needed to port it.

The odd thing about rust while it is indeed a safer language than C++ and this is touted by Mozilla as the main reason for its existence, it is still not a safe language, making it yet another safeish functional language variant of which there are already a few thousands. It is a bit perplexing why mozilla choose to invent a new language that sports no new features rather than using an existing language and toolchain ....

Applications / Re: WordPerfect for Windows 6.1 OS/2 tools
« on: August 28, 2019, 04:48:10 am »
It will install under ArcaOS and eCS, but it will only install reliably onto the C drive, and only on some file systems, so no JFS. It may also need the "large disk fix" during install, but it works fine without it.

I installed on e: (no C: drive in the system at the time) onto an all JFS system.  The only issue I really ran into was that the installer can only handle 512M of memory.

As I mentioned before, this was not an installer issue, I may not have been clear in my first post

Applications / Re: WordPerfect for Windows 6.1 OS/2 tools
« on: August 27, 2019, 11:05:08 am »
P.S. Corel was bought by venture capitalists Kohlberg Kravis Roberts (KKR) last month, as they are notorious for hard cost cutting it may me an idea for those that still use old Corel software to download whatever support files they need from the ftp site now as it may not be there for long ...

Applications / Re: WordPerfect for Windows 6.1 OS/2 tools
« on: August 27, 2019, 10:56:19 am »
It's extraordinary that a software company still provides patches for such an old piece of software. Great! There might even be patches for older WP versions I have, for example 5.0 for DOS.

There are, in fact even patches for older WP DOS products such as DataPerfect and DrawPerfect, this is primarily because the stopped updating the ftp site in 2002.

BTW, Corel gave permission to a WP user group website to distribute the old Satellite Software International DOS software for free online a few years back, excluding old versions of WordPerfect etc., which Corel still sells. While that user group has disappeared, those old packages should be downloadable from somewhere.

Applications / Re: WordPerfect for Windows 6.1 OS/2 tools
« on: August 27, 2019, 06:45:04 am »
I just found the "official" location for the tools, direct from Corel.

That's for the US English version and WordPerfect 6.0a or 6.1.  They also have a copy of the patch for other language versions of WordPerfect for Windows 3.1, along with a variety of other patches and utilities at

Wow, The reason I uploaded to hobbes is that did not answer on sunday I assumed it was dead, anyway the file is the same as the one shipped by Novell except corel has added a note to the archive.

Applications / Re: WordPerfect for Windows 6.1 OS/2 tools
« on: August 27, 2019, 03:56:06 am »

The patch / OS/2 tools for Wordperfect 6.1 works fine on JFS or HPFS, the only issue is that it needs to use the 8.3 file names.  Of course this is no different from any Win3.x application.

The problem with JFS was with the native OS/2 5.x version of Word Perfect, not the WinOS2 version of 6.x

And 6x and 7x 16 bit Windows versions of WP are in general much more usable on OS/2 than the native version although v7 never got a port of the OS/2 tools like 5x and 6x

Applications / Re: WordPerfect for Windows 6.1 OS/2 tools
« on: August 25, 2019, 07:01:28 pm »
The integration tools seem to work except Quicklaunch (there's an error message about a missing DLL). Thanks!

Does it say what the missing dll is?

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