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Applications / Re: Firefox 31.8.0 Beta 5 - First Impressions
« on: September 21, 2015, 07:24:19 pm »
Oh, sorry, but the stuttering of FF31.8.0 is in my view a problem. I thought it could be solved with the set whatever. I'm clear about that, but I thought wrong. So what are you commenting about?

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Applications / Re: strange behaviour with Thunderbird
« on: September 21, 2015, 01:15:53 pm »
Fresh start this morning with FF24.8.1. So the libs for that program are loaded. Closed FF and did start TB. Again just 150Mb instead of 900Mb. I didn't change a thing on setup, but I do remember that I had thrown out a membership on a newsgroup with not so many messages and I deleted the newsagent too. Probably this was on a fixed position in the database(?) which now freed up space(?). Anyway, if it stays this way with only 150Mb I'm happy.

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Applications / Re: Firefox 31.8.0 Beta 5 - First Impressions
« on: September 21, 2015, 01:09:07 pm »
But Boris & you misread the post and posted the solution for no sound, which is a different problem.
Thanks Greggory, no, I didn't read the message wrong, I had the idea in my mind that the problem was with some buffer which was not big enough to hold the sound, in pro packages you get similar things if you setup the rig with a buffer too small. First I thought it was a html5 implementation problem. By rerouting it to more native packages you could bypass the buffer problem. Furthermore, I don't have uniaud installed because I have an specific OS/2 driver for the soundmax chipset. So it was also a test to find out if uniaud was in the way of dart. The readme is not real clear on this. So some thoughts got its own life which was based on an idea, wrong. I know FF24 does an excellent job here.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 Google Trends ?
« on: September 21, 2015, 12:30:28 am »
Joop,

I don't know what you are seeing but what I see in Google maps using Firefox 17.0.11 on this OS/2 box (see the two attachments) is almost the same as on my tablet and a win 7 notebook of a friend.  Could you show us a screen capture of your problems.

Also, I don't see any adds or have unknown java scripts running.  The first are blocked by AddBlock Plus and the java scripts are controlled with NoScript.
Ivan,
Plan a trip between two points over different roads. You get a line between those two points running over roads. Now try to force the line to take an other road, more direct or a detour. Probably you can't. The presented trip is as is, you can't change it to follow other roads. Probably you also see in the lower right corner that you're using it in the lite mode. Formerly you could drag and drop points of the trip on an other road so you get a different trip. Sometimes a detour is shorter because they don't have data of it. Has nothing to do with addblock, noscript may be, but I doubt it.

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Applications / Re: Firefox 31.8.0 Beta 5 - First Impressions
« on: September 20, 2015, 10:06:50 pm »
Moved to FF31.8.0, but youtube stutters.

Found this;

Quote from: OS4User on July 25, 2015, 12:06:46 pm

    Have just tested it too.  What I have seen - works ok, except for video from YouTube -
    the sound is very slow  and video is also very slow - so it is unusable for YouTube.

    FF24 works ok  with YouTube on my system.
...

SET KAI_AUTOMODE=DART


So closed FF, updated the env file with above (use run) and run FF again. Did go back to youtube, same footage, still stutters. Now what?

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 Google Trends ?
« on: September 20, 2015, 09:41:26 pm »
Thanks David, interesting site.

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Applications / Re: strange behaviour with Thunderbird
« on: September 20, 2015, 09:40:06 pm »
Fresh start, FF31.8.0 some youtube stuff, close FF, start TB, euhh? just 150Mb max! instead of up to over 900Mb. Close TB, start FF24.8.1 some youtube stuff, close FF, start TB, still 150Mb max. Will try next time first FF24.81, then TB and see what happens. For the record, I didn't change a thing.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 Google Trends ?
« on: September 20, 2015, 05:12:38 pm »
I don't know Dave, ask Google. Why need they to know about everything you do with your computer? I can think of only one answer, money. Combined they can give advertisers a lot of information. Why do I need to get an unwanted advertisement about every minute a day? You switch on your tv, almost first you see is an add. Many sites have adds, Google, sidebar adds, your search delivers not what you asked for, but delivers first advertisers. How often do you get something which does have all words, only not the way you searched for? Even if you make it "hard".

I used everything whats available for OS/2, today its  24.8.1 or 31.8.0. Google service with lite version of maps. No matter what. It is not supported because I might make use of 3D, I don't , never did. My maps on paper are also not 3D. But now I can't dragging my route and the delivered routes by the light version are insane, shorter routes are available, but not in the light version. Its nice for getting an about how long or how much time, for the rest of it, junk ware.
 
But what bothers me is that its still a big firm which decides for you what you get to see depending on what hardware you have. And that's wrong, internet and all whats up there should be for everyone, not a limited few who has by accident bought Intel stuff with Microsoft code. Its as you say not of their concern, but the opposite is however true. Again, money, they force you to buy new computers with more processor power, more memory, bigger hd's so they can sell you more software which does nothing more then the previous version but needs more power, more room and more space on your hd. And even then it still doesn't work. Have you read what's needed for Windows 10?, insane when you set those figures next to whats needed for our OS which still does a lot of things more and better then Windows 10 can do. For good order, I don't have it about what's on the "dvd", but what's installed to get it going.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 Google Trends ?
« on: September 19, 2015, 11:30:34 pm »
Tried agent switcher. But Google doesn't buy it. Still lite version of maps.
There are a lot of sites which tell me what OS I use. So they can activate a javascript. I doubt that it will buy what agent switcher tells.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 Google Trends ?
« on: September 19, 2015, 07:41:53 pm »
...or use the User Agent Switcher.
Thanks, but it isn't the agent, FF is served, but they have also a check on OS, just download the F**** webpage and check the code.
Today visited some blogs, unbelievable what they smack in on just totally crap code. It looks like they are the third hand on the belly for let you pay for hard and software. First it was two hands, Microsoft with their corrupt code called Windows (I have to work on a daily basis with it, in case your in doubt)/(you really don't believe that V10 is free huh?) and the hardware manufacturer Intel. If you look at the demands for the OS alone(!), you can see why. As we are learning all the time, this setup doesn't work anymore, so they put in a third hand, write crappy code for visiting the Google pages (you won't believe what's from that factory) so your browser and computer gets slow and users are going to buy new faster hardware. Well, for those three hands on a belly, we can watch on the fly what's happening. Its definite not my connection, its definite not a slow system, its just crappy code which makes it slow, thank you Google. I'm sorry, but I can't write down how I feel about it. Seems to be illegal.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/2 Google Trends ?
« on: September 19, 2015, 03:38:50 pm »
The OS/2 Google trends are that we have to deal with less and less service from Google because they build apps or whatever stuff which don't recognize our OS. With maps you get the simplified version, no way to switch back to the old map in which you could drag and drop routes. Its just time before we can't access the other stuff or have to deal with simplified stuff.

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Applications / Re: strange behaviour with Thunderbird
« on: September 18, 2015, 02:56:35 am »
My mail totals about 1.2 GBs. The activity manager is under the Tools menu.
Activity manager: empty screen.

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Applications / Re: strange behaviour with Thunderbird
« on: September 17, 2015, 12:20:19 pm »
1 GB for TB seems excessive, so does 650MB.
Inbox over 129Mb, Sent over 55Mb, only two of the many boxes I have.
looked at the activity monitor?
What program?
Do you get the same usage on a newly booted system?
More or less, yes, today up to about 907Mb, before FF31 and libs up to about 985Mb or so.

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Applications / Re: strange behaviour with Thunderbird
« on: September 16, 2015, 06:56:43 pm »
I started today TB after I used FF24, PMView Pro, Embellish and Webwriter/2. At the time of running TB it was the only visible active program. The strange thing is that you see the build up of used memory, but normally this go on up to almost 1Gb in my case (that's why I run it alone). But with installation of the new libs for running FF31 it shows sometimes the behavior that the used memory just builds up to 650Mb and then TB comes with it screen in full, no malfunctions or so. Free shared memory over 200Mb. Can't get the why.

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Applications / Re: strange behaviour with Thunderbird
« on: September 16, 2015, 12:11:50 pm »
I wonder why my above comment has half of the message struck out?
Strange it is, thought you did it afterwards, good to know its not.
Adding memory isn't going to fix the low shared memory issue and 1 GB should be enough with only occasional swapping if really using it.
My thoughts, almost never use swapping, stays on 2Mb, but with my message database TB comes close to the roof and sometimes when an other program is still active its going swapping and that take lots of time.
Joops problem sounds like running out of low shared memory, something I've experienced a few times with early builds.
Correct, see reply nr 4 (September 14, 2015, 09:32:39 pm) in this topic.

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