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Applications / Re: FF 17.0.11 won't run youtube films
« on: July 15, 2014, 01:31:14 pm »
Hi Joop, which version of FF17.0.11? The developers preview or my last upload?
Anyways go to about:config and check how dom.ipc.plugins.enabled is set and if set to true, change to false. I forgot this fix in the first upload.
What may work better is to use webm to watch youtube videos, not all will work and you may have to enable webm.
Downloaded latest FF17.0.11, unzipped it over my previous FF17.0.11 (normally I make a new fresh directory and unzip it there). Didn't do anything more than that. FF direct in Dutch (ie it took over all my settings) and did go to youtube. Tried some films, first time cpu to 99.9% for a while with no action at all, but 2e and up movies direct image. There are some other behaviours. Going to an other tabpage will pause the movie. Also some unclear things. I have in settings not to warn me for updates, won't work because we've eCS right?, but I got a message on top in the tabpage with youtube that some movies won't work because I've to update, right, I've an old flash, but you know my opinion by now about flash, needs to be flushed.

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Applications / Re: FF 17.0.11 won't run youtube films
« on: July 15, 2014, 01:01:29 pm »
Hi Joop, which version of FF17.0.11? The developers preview or my last upload?
Anyways go to about:config and check how dom.ipc.plugins.enabled is set and if set to true, change to false. I forgot this fix in the first upload.
What may work better is to use webm to watch youtube videos, not all will work and you may have to enable webm.
Hello Dave, think your first, the zip file dates 14-06-19 (ymd) on my disk, probably the developers preview. May be it is an idea to put a "D" to the end of the filename so its clear that it is a developers version. I will download latest and see if it will go better. I get more and more trouble on sites with FF10, ie in Google you can't open "apps".

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Applications / Re: FF 17.0.11 won't run youtube films
« on: July 15, 2014, 12:55:18 pm »
You actually get youtube flash films to play?  Do you have a special version of flash player because most of the youtube offerings require at least version 12 and some now require version 14.
No, I was referring to html movie format, that plays in FF10, flash sucks, on office almost every week an update with the explanation that its faster, better for games and new toys, the real reason is just that they had to fix again a hole or two and replaced it with code which is a quarantee for the next ten holes.
Joop

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Applications / FF 17.0.11 won't run youtube films
« on: July 15, 2014, 12:55:52 am »
I have FF 17.0.11 running, but when I want to play a youtube film the cpu is going up to 99.99% and stays there. For some reason it can load through, I have to shut it down with tops or so. With FF 10.0.12r2 no problem, instant view. I have the same add-on's installed and they are active in both versions. Can't find any setting which might be set wrong.
Now what?
Regards,
Joop

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Applications / Re: Firefox 17.0.11 won't start
« on: June 29, 2014, 09:15:20 pm »
For my previous answer I had to pass the password system with a correct password, otherwise I could not log into this forum. There is definite something wrong in 24.3.0 with the password system. Used it only once, exit again cpu 99.99% and on the backgroud a pm password notification for waiting on a password. I don't know what to do, I'm out of options.
I also noticed that on this forum the password stays in the field with 24.3.0, with version 10 whatever that field is cleared.
Because 24.3 remembers its exit it starts with the cpu 99.99%. This sucks.

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Applications / Re: Firefox 17.0.11 won't start
« on: June 29, 2014, 08:48:59 pm »
I started all over again with 24.3. First I got the language install thing. That's going right because there is nothing yet. Next open the xpi file with Dutch. With menu Extra or options, Language set to Dutch. Restart. That's going okay, no hang ups. Next want to open the file "Recovering important data from an old profile.html", cpu go up 99.99% and stays there. With popup terminated. Found on the mozilla os/2 site a list with files and copied that to a text file. With FC/2 copied the files to the Firefox 24.3 home directory. Fired FF and it took a few moments. Had to go through a few install screens with add-ons. It shoots short to cpu 99.99%. Closed FF and nothing stays open on the background. So far so good, but there are a few things, why does the cpu goes 99.99% if I open a html file? I'm going to try again. Also I can't get rid of the tab, even if its only one! That will have an impact on the real estate for the page contents, again a part of the screen lost to useless information.

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Applications / Re: Firefox 17.0.11 won't start
« on: June 29, 2014, 02:04:41 am »
@Dave, thanks for the link, but its an extra and it should go the way I described, otherwise Mozilla had build in the function given with the download.

On 17.0.11 I don't have a master password installed, installation of the file did go fine. Program followed all the commands without hesitation. On 24.3 I have a master password installed and there is some trouble with it. I could download and install the file, but at some point you have to restart the program. After this point the program hangs, the cpu goes to 99.99% and nothing happen. You can sit and drink your coffee for ever. If I go to popup then I still can see that its waiting on a password.

So 17.0.11 is now Dutch, but no master password and therefore no passwords. In FF 24.3 I have to clean up a directory and somewhere something is set to 1 or something, so restarting FF 24.3 will end in immediate cpu use shooting up to 99.99% and after that see above with that coffee thing.

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Applications / Re: Firefox 17.0.11 won't start
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:53:45 am »
Hi Joop. i'll try to answer your points or get more info.
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I copied all the user files from FF10 to a new directory which is used by FF17, but it seems that this FF won't use that. So how do I get all settings into the new one, including lists with sites, passwords etc.?
I hope that you are using the environment setting MOZILLA_HOME to store your profiles in one place outside of the programs directory. You should always back up your profile before trying a new version. You can go to the URL about:support and click the open directory button besides profile directory to find it.
Here's an article on moving your profile, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Recovering%20important%20data%20from%20an%20old%20profile
When having problems such as most you list, you should test in safe mode (Help-->Restart With Add-Ons Disabled) and also try a new profile (firefox.exe -profilemanager) to test if your problems are locally caused by corruption in your profile.
I use run! so I have .env file for this. Yes I use MOZILLA_HOME and with each major update it will get its own new fresh directory, so for FF17 this will be FIREFOX_PROFIEL_170x and for FF24 it is FIREFOX_PROFIEL_240x. I copy all the files from the old FIREFOX_PROFIEL_1xxx to the new one and start FF. Its roughly the same as in the article. Because the language pack is from FF10 it will notify that its disabled due to version incompatibility. Going to the Mozilla site for getting a new one gives the problem. The add on manager will run for ever in the background. Have to play to see what name will come up exactly in popup, too late for that tonight, another time.

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Applications / Re: Firefox 17.0.11 won't start
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:38:52 am »
Hello Dave,
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I can't get it into another language (that's something else than spelling, its about language toolbar, help etc). The nl.xpi from version 17.0.11esr is not accepted because its incompatible, the nl.xpi from version 17.0.10esr is accepted, can be installed, can be set to use it, but it doesn't make any difference, its English and it stays English.
Can you give me detailed instructions to reproduce this? I've never played with language packs. Also you should try with a new profile and also perhaps 17.0.5esr
Its very easy. You can do it online or offline. I always use offline. This is that you download a language file. Go to ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ and then go to the release of your choice. Go to win32, go to xpi and download a xpi file, dutch would be nl.xpi. Save the file on your drive, normally I insert version between countryname and .xpi, but thats up to you. Start FF and with menu file and then file open you go to the directory where you saved the xpi file. Open that file. FF will automaticly know what to do. If its okay you can decide to install the file and it will be active. You can check in the options page > add ons or go direct to add ons.
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If you use a master password and make use of passwords then on the background  a proces is running, in popup it is "Inv.PM wachtwoord vereist" would translate like password required or something. With FF10 this closed as soon as you exit FF. With FF17 and FF24 it isn't closed and it sends the cpu meter to 99.99% with slow responces as a result. Same thing for if you want to install an add on. The manager keeps on running in the background and the cpu meter goes up to 99.99%
I can install add-ons without problems.  I also just tested the master password thing, seemed to work fine.
Yes, thats right, but when you exit FF your cpu meter is going way up to 99.99%. Because I don't have that much programs running same time this is strange. With popup you can see that still a FF task is running. You can kill it, but this not the normal way of doing things in my opinion. Don't know about you ;-)

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Applications / Re: Firefox 17.0.11 won't start
« on: June 22, 2014, 07:07:03 pm »
Installed FF 24.3, same problems. I managed to use the old settings but found some problems which go back to at least version FF10. If you use a master password and make use of passwords then on the background  a proces is running, in popup it is "Inv.PM wachtwoord vereist" would translate like password required or something. With FF10 this closed as soon as you exit FF. With FF17 and FF24 it isn't closed and it sends the cpu meter to 99.99% with slow responces as a result. Same thing for if you want to install an add on. The manager keeps on running in the background and the cpu meter goes up to 99.99%.

Is this only on my system or is the problem more common?


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Applications / Re: Firefox 17.0.11 won't start
« on: June 21, 2014, 11:24:47 pm »
Thanks for the help, thought I got all, the last mentioned file was not in the list. Now I've FF17.0.11 running, but there are a lot of things very wrong. I can't get it into another language (that's something else than spelling, its about language toolbar, help etc). The nl.xpi from version 17.0.11esr is not accepted because its incompatible, the nl.xpi from version 17.0.10esr is accepted, can be installed, can be set to use it, but it doesn't make any difference, its English and it stays English.
I copied all the user files from FF10 to a new directory which is used by FF17, but it seems that this FF won't use that. So how do I get all settings into the new one, including lists with sites, passwords etc.?
The add-on container seems to run forever, had to do a ctrl-alt-del for popup and with the list and the kill option for deactivating the container. So for non English users its not an option, I stay with FF10 latest.

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Applications / Firefox 17.0.11 won't start
« on: June 21, 2014, 07:13:59 pm »
Installed or better said unzipped the zip file into a new directory. Copied the contents of mozsupport.zip to the ecs\dll directory. I use run. So in the ff directory there is a Firefox!.ENV file and the file Firefox!EL.EXE. Normally a program will run without ant trouble with this setup. Its the same as other ff setups, only this time additional dll files to copy. Done that. Yet at start up I get a beep and this;

Unable to start 'FIREFOX.EXE' - rc= 2 - possible cause: 'STDCPP6'

** press Enter to continue **

I have no idea where to look and what this error will tell me. So anyone can explain to me what I did wrong this time?

Thank you
Joop

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Comments, Suggestions & Questions / Re: Cruelty in OS2World
« on: June 14, 2014, 03:51:24 pm »
I have the same problem. I'm native Dutch speaking and you want to put in information as correctly as possible and also I do jump from message to other pages for checking info. My settings are forever, but don't know what it does, after some time your out (forever hehe). The solution is already given. If I know that the answer will be difficult and long than I copy the complete message to the text editor, do all my stuff there and if ready log on again, go to the message, go to reply mode and copy the message back in.

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The main problem with all of the hardware rating sites, is that they get old, and it can be difficult to determine if a device is currently available, or 10 years old, and "out of stock". I don't know of a good way to resolve that problem.
I think its easy to put in an addon date. Most owners know if it is old or just bought around the corner. May be a field "production date".

Perhaps, there could be a list of "known" users, who can post without review. Others would need to have their posts reviewed, before changes are made.
Sounds good to me, I think that it will be an one time job to give users the rights, most of them are known from posting more than once and others are reviewed, but I think that it will be low volume of unknown users.


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I think its a good plan, but I'm not sure if the .be site is interesting because lots of stuff is not in the shops anymore. Now we can deal with older hardware due to the nature of our drivers, but how far back are you going with older hardware?
Did looked at the site, found already a missing group ;-), can I add that? And where do you add that group?. Its a tablet as replacement for the mouse from Wacom.

The Russian site is not clear enough and not in the proper language, always difficult if you working worldwide, so no blame to the owner.
 
I think that four or five fields will do with a remarker field for if some chip on a motherbord is not supported or does the wrong things. I agree with others that it must be simple for adding. If all of us can just do that will also include the danger that some "os/2-haters any form" can do that, only with other intensions. So how are you going to solve that question?

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