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Programming / Re: os4: KEE update notification
« on: December 06, 2016, 11:44:22 pm »
So you are looking for a community that splits up even more than it is today ?
That will be the moment in time when I will finally pull the plug on OS/2.

Lars, we respect you and your work on USB stack and other projects.
Sorry, for negative emotions which we bring you.

If you cannot install a standard eCS or AN Installation inside a virtual machine then that's it for me.
That's not frustration. That's common sense.

New KEE in OS/4 kernel is aimed to help a Host System, not a Guest System and thus it will in no way influence the installation of the standard eCS or AN inside a VM.

Ok, here is something constructive: don't put these routines in the kernel, put it in ACPI.PSD and ACPI.SYS (the ACPI driver from the OS4 team) respectively.
Then have the 2 parties agree on a common Interface.

Unfortunately it is impossible to properly provide such service within PSD or some other way, it is possible to do only in the kernel by adding new KEE (by the way, ACPI itself has absolutely no connection with the matter).

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Programming / os4: KEE update notification
« on: December 05, 2016, 07:24:49 pm »
OS4Team plans to add to KEE the following entries:

#define IAECPU_IN_BARRIER_ON  1
#define IAECPU_OUT_BARRIER_ON 2
#define IAECPU_EXCLUDECURRENT 4

typedef void KEEENTRY (*RendCallBack_t)(void*);

KEERET   KEEENTRY KernInvokeAtEachCpu(RendCallBack_t CallBack,void *arg,uint32_t flags);
KEERET   KEEENTRY KernInvokeAtSpecificCpu(RendCallBack_t CallBack,void *arg,uint32_t CPUnum);

These entries are to help CPU rendezvous.

Hope, it will be useful to VirtualBox porters,  test version is available upon request.

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Applications / Re: Phoenix OS/4 on Virtualbox
« on: October 09, 2016, 05:13:02 pm »

I had patched ACPI 3.22.03 and included back on config.os4
- PSD=OS4APIC.PSD
- PSD=ACPI.PSD /ST=0


kernel can use one PSD only  -  if you added two (as shown) - OS4APIC.PSD will work

you may try two options:

1) PSD=OS4APIC.PSD /APIC

2) PSD=ACPI.PSD /ST=0


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Applications / Re: Phoenix OS/4 on Virtualbox
« on: October 09, 2016, 07:55:50 am »
OS/4 requests patched  ACPI.PSD with /ST=0 in config.sys
patches is here http://gus.biysk.ru/os4/Patches/AcpiPsdPatches.rar

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General Discussion / Re: OS/4 Kernel trouble
« on: September 16, 2016, 07:55:59 am »
David, tnx for testing  -  it was a real help for improving OS/4 kernel.
 
Though a little explanation is needed: for your laptop there was a need for a special clock03c.sys because there is a bug in ACPI.SYS, not because it was patched.

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General Discussion / Re: OS/4 Kernel trouble
« on: September 06, 2016, 11:11:38 pm »
I attached the MPTable info. How do I patch ver 3.23.02 of ACPI.PSD? I have 1 CPU and ACPI.PSD indicates one as well. I'll also attach OEMHLP$ using IBM kernel and ACPI.PSD.

There is no patch for 3.23.02 for now,  but you may try to patch and run ACPI.PSD ver 3.22.06 -  the patch is here http://gus.biysk.ru/os4/Patches/AcpiPsdPatches.rar

Do not forget to add /ST=0 to psd command line (PSD=ACPI.PSD  /ST=0) in config.sys

Pls also show output from PCI.EXE

also test test_DMC1.zip

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General Discussion / Re: OS/4 Kernel trouble
« on: September 06, 2016, 07:58:10 am »
  I tried the OS/4 kernel on my laptop for the first time today, and while it boots, I get a repeating desktop startup sound, and no devices with IRQ's above 15 work (sound, network, USB). It is the same with or without the /APIC switch. Has anyone run into this before? One thing unusual about this laptop - when using the Netlabs ACPI.PSD, the hardware manager shows ACPI on IRQ 10. Everything else I have seen uses IRQ 9. Maybe related to the issue? I'll attach the kernlog file.

Probably it's a bug in the MPtable, pls show an output from http://gus.biysk.ru/os4/tools/mptable-2.0.12.zip

try  to run with ACPI.PSD (patched and with /ST=0)

how many CPU do you see under ACPI.PSD ?

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS install problems on a recent mainboard
« on: September 03, 2016, 09:08:13 am »

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The system detected an internal processing error at
location ##1800:1b4e - 0003:1b4e
60000, 2008

10860673
Internal revision 14.105_SMP

It is not "Trap", it is "Panic" -  kernel recognized condition in which it is impossible to continue execution of its own code.

Shown Panic is called "DevHlp Usage Error" and in the original kernel it may happen for quite a few reasons.

At the same time, I saw a positive report about running OS/2 on similar mobo  - Asrock Q1900B-ITX (I do not know how important the letter "B" is) but with OS/4 kernel http://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/Phoenix_OS/4#OS.2F4_Tested_Hardware_List

I do not think that it was working because of using OS/4  - so keep trying to change you settings.

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS install problems on a recent mainboard
« on: September 02, 2016, 06:05:04 pm »
... i7 gave very little additional performance...

Try to compare DIVE -> Video bus bandwidth on Celeron and on i7.
This mark is most important for screen update speed in Panorama.

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Programming / Re: OS4 question
« on: July 13, 2016, 08:43:39 am »
Sorry, Doug, I forgot to tell that I'm not going to encourage or convince you to use OS/4 :)
But your post could create a wrong picture for other people, so I started to argue with you just to show to OTHERS that your statements are mostly not correct.

I use high shared memory for the OpenOffice DLLs, but that only works when I also use the Quick Start feature, otherwise when OO closes, the machine hangs, or crashes, about 7 times in 10. I have the same problem when trying to use high memory with Firefox, but it doesn't have a method to keep the DLLs loaded, so I use them loaded low. I have tried other things, but they just don't work when loaded high, or the machine crashes when they unload. I know that somebody has done some work on that problem, but it obviously needs more work.

Yes, there is such an issue in the original kernel but it's absent in OS/4 kernel.

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I never change DC1 to original and everything works fine. So it's hard for me to consider it a mess.

Sorry, but I can't use any unsupported software that affects normal operation. If I do, I can't tell if that causes the problem, or if the software that I am testing is causing the problem. It is not smart to cause confusion, so I don't do it.

Funny. DC1 from OS/4 is the only supported version :)

Then, there is the legal grey area, which needs to be cleared up before OS/4 can even be considered by a lot of people.

If someone considers himself as absolutely white, he may use the official kernel and patch it  himself to OS/4 level but not use the already patched kernel that is being distributed. The patch will be provided for such persons upon their request.

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Programming / Re: OS4 question
« on: July 12, 2016, 11:15:14 pm »
It was mostly having to mess with DOSCALL1.DLL,
99% of time I run OS/4 and I have installed DC1 supplied with it. If sometimes I have to run the original kernel, I never change DC1 to original and everything works fine. So it's hard for me to consider it a mess.


It just got to be too much effort to mess with all of that stuff
What do you mean ?

FWIW, lower shared memory space is now my biggest problem. Does OS/4 improve on that?
Low shared memory starts from the highest address of private memory and ends at approx. 512M border. I figure that your large windows executable files rise the upper edge of the private memory quite high and that leaves too little space for shared memory.

Please tell me what kernel could help in this case?

OS/4 may not offer much for this issue - it offers to programs approx. 512Kb more low shared than the original kernel.

I would suggest to analyze and minimize using the low shared memory in favor of using high shared memory. Some DLLs allow loading to high shared memory with no harm.

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Programming / Re: OS4 question
« on: July 12, 2016, 10:07:12 am »
I did play with OS/4 for a while, but once it started interfering with my normal system...

Interesting, how did it interfere with you "normal" system ?

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Programming / Re: OS4 question
« on: July 12, 2016, 10:04:06 am »
Also is there an up-to-date install procedure for the OS4 kernels?

here is some info
http://www.os2world.com/wiki/index.php/OS/4

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Applications / Re: Firefox 38.8.0 for OS/2 Beta 7
« on: May 29, 2016, 12:57:31 am »
Try backing up your previous FF 38.x.x and unzip the new zip file over the top of it. That fixed the DLL error messages for me. 38.8 is working well here so far.

I would never suggest to go this way.  Third part dlls have to reside in proper place = %UNIXROOT%\usr\lib\  but not in FireFox dir.

this is a list of dlls supplied with 38.2.1:
freebl3.dll
mozalloc.dll
mozsqlt3.dll
nspr4.dll
nss3.dll
nssckbi.dll
nssdbm3.dll
nssutil3.dll
plc4.dll
plds4.dll
smime3.dll
softokn3.dll
ssl3.dll
xul.dll

this is a list supplied with 38.8.0 :
mozalloc.dll
mozsqlt3.dll
xul.dll

The rest have gone to  %UNIXROOT%\usr\lib\

By coping new ver of FF over old  you force  FF to use dlls supplied with old ver - what is  completely wrong.

How are you going to know that you are using proper ver of dlls ?

Right scenario is:
1) update/install dlls according to FF README, using ANPM or YUM
2)
.. unzip firefox*.zip after renaming my old firefox directory.

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Setup & Installation / Re: OS/2 is unable to operate your hard disk
« on: May 23, 2016, 08:14:31 pm »
The working installation is on a SATA disk and the other is IDE. Would that make a difference?

if your SATA disk is served by OS2AHCI.ADD   it will not work with IDE disk

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