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Messages - Dave Yeo

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the source of SDD  is not that necessary  as it may seam
to add new card someone has to have tech docs for this card anyway
some time ago i tried to find such docs  -  they are not open

Depends on the card. I understand the Intel video cards (actually built into MBs generally) are open.

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on the other hand the grad driver is not very complicated  itself
having docs it is  better to write a new  driver (like pano R200)  rather than
add cards to SDD

SDD has multi platform design which is obsolete in our case thus we can make
a driver in simpler way

use SDD source to rebuilt it to be SMP friendly   -  is not very good idea too  -  supported cards very old and  almost nobody use them

I still find that SDD works much better then Panorama here on my older install where SMP is broken anyways. Colours are correct under SDL (perhaps a SDL bug) when using 32bit colour, monitor goes to sleep when the screensaver tells it to, by chance the MTRRs seem correct on both. SDD might still be easier to extend and some newer cards may be compatible with the older cards and just need enabling.

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Mensys owns SDD source code, and has even built a customized version for eComStation without serial code validation procedures and that annoying splash screen on startup.

Ah, and that was a joke. I was sure no one reads that form. ::)

Mensys only owns a license for the source code and my understanding is that they haven't done anything with it besides asking a developer or 2 to have a look at how hard it would be to fix the SMP issues (mostly easy)

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At some point Bitwise is going to run out of funding for the Firefox port, dmik has put a lot of time in understanding the code, which is a huge mess so I'd suggest it as another use for the fund.

I would support this idea too  -   without proper browser,  os/2 has no chance to survive

Any browser can not work if driver for netcard is missing :)
I'm replying without need for a netcard though everyone else in the house is dependent on my netcard and get pissed off when it stops working due to IRQ weirdness. It would be nice to have a driver that worked and kept working for more then a couple of days.

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At some point Bitwise is going to run out of funding for the Firefox port, dmik has put a lot of time in understanding the code, which is a huge mess so I'd suggest it as another use for the fund.

I would support this idea too  -   without proper browser,  os/2 has no chance to survive
Another option is to Port QT5 and use one of the webkit browsers... less work probably in the long term and more options available too.  FIrefox seems to be doing its best to marginalize itself.

How good is the QT5 version of webkit compared to the Apple version or others?

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The only fact is that I have two serious proposals for the OS2World common Fund for 2014.

1) Kickstart Eclipse SWT port
2) Network/Wifi BSD driver port. 

This are the two things that I have, if anybody had other proposal (not ideas, a proposal with developers on board) please let me know.
At some point Bitwise is going to run out of funding for the Firefox port, dmik has put a lot of time in understanding the code, which is a huge mess so I'd suggest it as another use for the fund. 31ESR is already in testing and we're just starting testing 24ESR and 31ESR is going to be harder as all the OS/2 code is gone.
Having 3D accelerated video drivers is also important for the future, if only for webgl in Firefox. This is going to get more important as NPAPI plugin support is going to be removed at some point so no more flash or other plugins, instead the browser will be doing everything including 3D stuff. Even playing videos works much better if accelerated and who knows what future web applications will show up.
I really don't know how useful an eclipse/swt port would be.

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Applications / Re: Firefox 24 vs OS/2 World
« on: June 01, 2014, 11:57:49 pm »
Boris already referred to the bug report. It is good though to make sure that it is not a local problem by seeing if others can reproduce it before filing a report otherwise there is too much noise.

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Programming / Re: How to specify wlink as linker for gcc?
« on: May 31, 2014, 04:04:30 am »
Usually symlinks are implemented at the file system level which on OS/2 limits you to TVFS. klibc does it differently, supporting symlinks at the libc level so created symlinks only work with applications linked to libc. You can build coreutils or easier install with yum and get a working ln.exe, but only for symlinks and only in the libc environment.
The usual way of handling symlinks is to just copy, LN_S=cp -f.
Libc trunk is the main libc directory if you check out libc07 with svn I believe,
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svn co http://svn.netlabs.org/repos/libc/trunkSee http://trac.netlabs.org/libc
ps symlinks and permissions are kept in EAs and if using HPFS are actually compatible with Linux so a symlink created under OS/2 on HPFS will work on Linux and vice versa. 

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Programming / Re: How to specify wlink as linker for gcc?
« on: May 30, 2014, 04:44:37 pm »
Most everything needed can be installed with yum/rpm and has the advantage of being a standard environment. One problem with GCC and home spun environments is sometimes no one else can repeat what you did.

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Programming / Re: How to specify wlink as linker for gcc?
« on: May 29, 2014, 04:32:55 am »
You can just do it at the command prompt or as Andy said, as part of a script to set up the environment.
Note that you also have to use -Zomf as a linking flag or else gcc will default to calling ld.exe for linking

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If I understand correctly there is no hardware acceleration so not much different the our Panorama driver.

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Finally got around to testing the newest OS/4 kernel on my Warp V4+latest free fixes install. It hangs when it should go graphical. The new Doscall1.dll did seem to make the system more stable though, it's a somewhat crufty install from '96 or so and crashes if I enable more then one core but runs fine with one core and doesn't have the FPU problems that newer versions of OS/2 have

os/4 is SMP kernel  and  cannot work with UNI doscall1 from Warp V4
you should use dc1 from os/4 package or from Warp 4.5 SMP

interesting to see comport log with that crash

Missed this post until now  :)

I have the SMP kernel and SMP doscall1 as I've tried to enable both cores previously. No comport on this box. Wish there was if only for the modem.

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ecomstation I'm sure is trademarked so I'd guess we should be expecting something more like 1.0 with whatever name Lewis and friends come up.

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General Discussion / Re: eCS 2.2
« on: May 21, 2014, 05:27:27 pm »
It looks like eCS is dead and others are taking up the torch, see Lewis's anouncement

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It's depressing how many people just vanish. I assume they move on but then I think that if I dropped dead there'd just be another one gone quiet.

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Lewis announced it on the ecs-tech mailing list. There are other things happening that agree with it as well but it is not for me to announce what others are doing. There should be more announcements.

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