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So far I have not had much success with it.

I burnt a CD and tried it on 5 computers here ranging from an Intel Pentium 4 powered HP to an AMD AM3 x4 processor om an ASUS M4A78LT-M board.

On 4 of the 5 it hung at some point in the boot process.  On the one that did manage to produce a desktop none of the drives were available, nor was the network or USB.

I suppose the best I can say is that it is a beta version that, in theory, should get better.

Tomorrow I will try it on some friends computers and see if it works any better.  Maybe I should also say that all the computers I tried it on are running WSeB without any problems at all.   

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.2 YUM/RPM question
« on: February 02, 2013, 11:34:54 am »
Maybe they, like the RPM/YUM install, could be emphasised in some way rather than being buried in with a lot of other options that most people don't look at.  An install page something like the networking page maybe?

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.2 YUM/RPM question
« on: February 01, 2013, 11:07:56 pm »
Thanks again Alex.


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Must it be on the boot partition or can it be on another and if on another will it allow multiple boot partitions?  That is the question that must be answered!

It has been answered, repeatedly.  I don't see what the confusion is.  It can go on any partition and is entirely self-contained.

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At the moment there appears to be a move towards emulating windows with everything being placed in the boot partition.  As far as I can see this is a retrograde step and should be resisted. 

Why do you seem to have this impression?  Who has ever said that it has to be on the boot drive?  It does not.

To answer the first part.  I have seen conflicting statements about where it could go and nothing definitive about it working with different boot partitions. 

Since you have a hand in the installer for eCS then I can now take it that it will work from a common partition for more than one boot drive on the same machine.

The second part is an impression I have received, maybe erroneously, from comments on various news groups and to a lesser extent here, but again I rely on your knowledge of the inner workings to show that is a wrong impression.  I do have one question though, why does an eCS install default to using %bootdrive%/programs and %bootdrive%/home?

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.2 YUM/RPM question
« on: January 31, 2013, 01:40:36 pm »
Likewise Doug, all my applications are on one partition and where possible the data produced is on yet another.  The boot partition has OS/2 and that is it.

So far with RPM/YUM there has been no definitive answer to how it is designed to work.  So far the answer is 'maybe' it will go on a non boot partition or 'maybe' it has to be on the boot partition.

Must it be on the boot partition or can it be on another and if on another will it allow multiple boot partitions?  That is the question that must be answered!

At the moment there appears to be a move towards emulating windows with everything being placed in the boot partition.  As far as I can see this is a retrograde step and should be resisted. 

If it ends up that it will put everything on the boot partition then we need a simple RPM unpacker that will let us get at what is in the package and put it where we want it.  In other words we will be back to the equivalent of using zip files.

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.2 YUM/RPM question
« on: January 30, 2013, 10:18:24 pm »
I already have rpm/yum on an alternate drive. When the new eCS comes out and I would install it on a second boot partition with rpm/yum in the same place as it is now I expect there might be problems because files would get overwritten and the database will get messed up. So I intend -not- to install rpm/yum but simply copy and paste the appropriate lines from the old config.sys to the new one.
And that appears to be the big problem - multiple OS/2 eCS boot partitions on the same machine using common applications installed on a partition that can be used by all boot versions.

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.2 YUM/RPM question
« on: January 29, 2013, 01:06:05 am »
Thanks for that bit of information Alex.  When you say view them do you mean just getting a list or actually extracting them - in other words do we now have a fully functional 7z?

I have to admit that I find it rather strange that Odin would be installed using RPM/YUM or are they trying to replace warpin?

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Applications / Re: Qpdf
« on: January 24, 2013, 09:29:42 pm »
Hi Silvan,

I tried it on three systems all running AMD64 processors, 1 single core, 1 2 core and the third a 4 core unit.  All have 4GB memory and WSeB, with SMP on the two multi core.

So far I have 22 QT4 apps that I use without any problems at all, open files from anywhere.  QT4 is installed in os2\apps\qt4.

Out of curiosity I tried running it on the standby server, an HP DL385 with 2 2 core AMD processors and 32GB ram running WSeB.  It locked that solid as well when I tried to open a PDF that was on a different partition.


Edit to add that it works as expected if the PDFs are on the same partition a qpdfview, generally mine are not!

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Applications / Re: Qpdf
« on: January 24, 2013, 02:05:45 pm »
The big problem I find with qpdfview is that if I try and open a pdf on another partition (qpdfview installed in e:\qt4-apps, want to open pdf in f:\download) it locks the machine solid and I have to power off and then on again.

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That was as much luck as anything though I did have the goal of getting 10 out for the reason that it would be supported for over a year.
The rapid release cycle made it very hard for a couple of people to keep up. Perhaps one person working on it full time would have but after Peter moved on and Mozilla switched to the release every 6 week schedule...
Mozilla has a lot of people employed developing Firefox and we've never had more then 3 or 4 since IBM moved on. And it can be tedious.
Dave, if that was luck then we must thank our lucky stars you made that decision.  The ESR branch is the most stable and much less prone to problems, so much so that I have converted all my friends to using it - even if they are using windows.

Thank you for your luck and all your hard work.

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I had assumed it was because our versions are following the commercial ESR line which makes it up to date.

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.2 YUM/RPM question
« on: January 18, 2013, 04:20:24 pm »
Andi B, I have found the biggest problem with *nix systems is that they follow Hal from the film and always come out with the equivalent of 'I'm sorry Dave but I can't let you do that' when I try to alter some text file that they use as an ini file.

The other thing I think we need is a program like WPIVIEW only for the rpm/yum installer.  That way we could find out what is going on.

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Setup & Installation / Re: eCS 2.2 YUM/RPM question
« on: January 18, 2013, 12:52:15 am »
Andy, thank you for trying to answer the questions but it would be nice to have definitive answers to those questions from the developers.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Can't use Facebook and Twitter in Firefox
« on: January 18, 2013, 12:47:06 am »
Einar, do you have any add-ons like noscript, flash block, adblock plus etc.?  If so check their settings you may need to either block something ow unblock something else.

One big problem we do have is that some sites try to open a link to the youtube back end and since we don't have a reliable flash player it times out and stops loading the remainder of the page.  I have to block that - ytimg.com - for several sites to allow them to open.

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Setup & Installation / Re: Migration problems
« on: January 13, 2013, 09:28:06 pm »
Barbara, I have a computer here that every so often does something to the video similar to what you described.  With ours it is if someone is using firefox and closes it then tries to start something else before firefox fully closes.  The best way I've found is to give the box the three finger salute  a couple of times in quick succession - the box restarts and all is well until the next time.  One day we will retire this box and replace it with something newer.

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Applications / Firefox 10.0.12-ESR
« on: January 10, 2013, 09:42:09 pm »
Since there doesn't appear to be any way to directly contact Martin I will put this here.

Firefox10.0.12-ESR  ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/incoming/mozilla/firefox-10.0.11.en-US.os2.zip is available on the Netlabs site.  Just remember to add the  mzfntcfgft_runtime_20130104.zip, from hobbes, as per the contained readme.

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