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I have the ArcaOS-5.1.1-en.iso file copied to the USB drive. I have tried connecting it to each and every USB port on the front and the back, powering off the computer and powering it back on and ... it never sees the USB drive OR it doesn't recognize the file as an ISO file therefore it is not trying to install the contents of the file. Anything else I might be doing wrong?

Sounds weird. Did you correctly set up the stick? OS/2 can't boot of an USB stick, it actually creates a ram disk, copies itself there and boots of the ram disk.
Your first partition on the stick should be similar to this,
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The volume label in drive I is EFIBOOT.
The Volume Serial Number is 1909:0E31.
Directory of I:\

12-28-25  4:45p        16,047      0 a---  config.sys
12-28-25  4:45p     4,592,762      0 a---  boot1.bin
12-28-25  4:45p    12,213,555      0 a---  boot2.bin
12-28-25  4:45p       402,117      0 a---  boot3.bin
 3-01-26  5:32p         <DIR>      0 ----  efi
        5 file(s)  17,224,481 bytes used
                     55,274,496 bytes free

The efi partition is important along with the boot directory under it and boot containing,
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8-28-25  9:58a       107,936      0 a---  bootx64.efi
12-28-25  4:45p       785,521      0 a---  os2ldr.bin
 9-01-24 12:18p            13      0 a---  os2ldr.cfg
 9-01-24 12:18p           831      0 a---  ANdb.cer
 9-01-24 12:18p         1,200      0 a---  ANdb.crt

Your system should try to boot bootx64.efi

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By the way, this message board takes two to three minutes to update for me. Is it only me or is there something going on?

Bot attacks and attempts to stop them. It's a crappy situation, the site used to work much better. Martin is working on it.
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I downloaded the BIOS documentation. Go to the Advanced Menu-->Boot Options. Make sure fast boot is turned off and USB Storage boot is turned on and it should be able to boot an USB stick. It is possible the Boot Order menu will only show USB if a USB device is plugged in.
So you have to get your AOS USB boot stick built and then try again. Might work.
I also don't see any sign of a CSM so you will have to do an UEFI install.

Thank you VERY much for downloading the BIOS documentation and letting me know what to do. However, what it said to do were things I had already done. But that doesn't mean that I don't VERY much appreciate you taking your time to try to help me.

* Fastboot was already unchecked
* CD-ROM Boot is already checked
* USB Storage boot is already checked

I have the ArcaOS-5.1.1-en.iso file copied to the USB drive. I have tried connecting it to each and every USB port on the front and the back, powering off the computer and powering it back on and ... it never sees the USB drive OR it doesn't recognize the file as an ISO file therefore it is not trying to install the contents of the file. Anything else I might be doing wrong?

By the way, this message board takes two to three minutes to update for me. Is it only me or is there something going on?
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A lot of people here drive Tesla cars, and they've been putting stickers on them apologizing for Elon. I don't see the same for HP computers. Meg Whitman famously brought HP from the largest computer company in the world to one that was not even in the top 10. After than, she ran a very unsuccessful campaign for governor of California.

I don't want to demonize HP, but your headline go me thinking about computer history. I don't advocate politics -- OS/2 users from all political camps are welcome. But I do acknowledge that politics exist. When I did OS/2 consulting, I supported HP computers along with the rest. HP isn't going to help us much. Lenovo, my goto brand, isn't going to help much either.

I'm not trying to "demonize" HP but I DO want people to stop and think about whether or not they want to buy an HP computer. It could be that only after Meg bought HP that it stopped working well with OS/2 or maybe her time period had nothing to do with it. But she certainly was a failure running HP and thankfully, even though I don't live in California, she didn't win an election there.

I have never put a bumper sticker any car that I've ever owned. But this is the first one there I'm thinking about turning the Tesla Logo upside down AND adding a bumper stick that says something like, "I bought a Tesla before I knew he was a [with a picture of a donkey's rear end). In my book you are either helping as many as you can or you are hurting them. The knife is very sharp and he comes out on the bad side of it.

My views on politics is this. I'm standing in the middle of a road loading over two fences, one on each side of the road. Across the fences are fields of mud with people from the left and right throwing mud over the fences including over the road that I'm standing on but at each other. Meanwhile they can't see the road (to progress) but they only see their fence and think that the only think in the world is either their side of the fence or the other side. They don't realize there is a highway of people (like me) that don't care about politics. We only care about trying to do the best we can and for some of us, me included, I try to help people and not make anyone's lives worse than they are.

It would be cool if we could align with one of the brands with open-source BIOS and non-proprietary hardware. They are obscure at this point, but I hope they will grow. The right to repair movement might help us get better long-term prospects for OS/2-compatible hardware.

I agree. There WAS a company with packages with black and white that looked kind of like cows that worked closely at least with the bank I was working for to make better computers that were easier for both users and support people to use and maintain and they got them to work very well for us and we bought only from them. I don't remember what happened but suddenly they started having business problems and they ended up getting bought and we ended up HAVING to go with a company that had great sounding speeches but the products were not as good as the cow computer company. I'm not trying not to name them. I just don't remember their name.

I personally bought computers from them too and installed OS/2, multiple distros of Linux, BeOS, just to name a few with a program (don't remember the name) where you could have up to eight??? OSs to choose from at boot up. It wasn't easy installing that many OSs because some REQUIRED that they have a partition within the first 1024 of the hard drive which meant things were pretty chopped up on the multiple hard drives. Thankfully OS/2 could easily have multiple hard drives look like one partition on one hard drive. But that was back in the '90s and things have gotten better, in some ways MUCH better (wireless devices) and at the same sometimes MUCH worse. And I'm not meaning anything about the HP computer I bought.
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I downloaded the BIOS documentation. Go to the Advanced Menu-->Boot Options. Make sure fast boot is turned off and USB Storage boot is turned on and it should be able to boot an USB stick. It is possible the Boot Order menu will only show USB if a USB device is plugged in.
So you have to get your AOS USB boot stick built and then try again. Might work.
I also don't see any sign of a CSM so you will have to do an UEFI install.
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Seems I read somewhere that HP computers aren't recommended for AOS, something about crappy BIOS. Might be mis-remembering.
As David said, the problem might be able to be fixed in the BIOS. If eCS boots on DVD, I'd think that AOS would too. I haven't burned an AOS DVD since USB sticks started working so not sure how they work given that they can install to BIOS or UEFI. The USB sticks have 2 partitions, UEFI and BIOS installs and which gets started depends on the BIOS settings. Something like legacy or/and CSM for BIOS and UEFI for UEFI. Perhaps in the boot order page in your BIOS. Don't forget to turn secure boot off.

It would be my luck that I buy a PC (my first since around 1998, actually probably my last PURCHASE of a PC might be closer to 1996 so literally about 30 years ago. Well, if Arca Noae OS/2 won't install on it, I've got Haiku, the open source version of BeOS to try. Hopefully I can get that installed but so far I can't get the computer to recognize ANY CD or USB memory card so that I can install ANY OS to it. I'm not going to install Windows (in case anyone suggests that), that is NEVER, EVER, EVER ("to infinity and beyond") going to happen.

If nothing else I'll use it as a door stop and will never buy another HP computer again. Not that they will probably care about one person not buying their product. But if anyone is thinking about it and sees this post, this will stop them and have them looking somewhere else.

I've got four computers (including the HP) lined up with seven monitors (including the laptop monitor) which is a lovely sight and a good START. lol
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Hopefully attached is a print screen of the Boot Order on the HP EliteDesk 800 G6 SFF. As you can see, it is setup to boot first from a CD and then the storage device (SDD) on attached directly to the motherboard.

A photo that I took of the boot order is now attached
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Internet / Re: Dooble releases-Qt6
« Last post by Dave Yeo on March 08, 2026, 06:31:54 pm »
Actually the problem is the directory separator after the drive letter. set DOOBLE_HOME=h:/tmp\.dooble\ works fine along with various similar settings, while set DOOBLE_HOME=h:\tmp\.dooble\  fails. This affects both Qt5 and Qt6 versions.
Edit: Missed your last edit :)
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Internet / Re: Dooble releases-Qt6
« Last post by Jan-Erik Lärka on March 08, 2026, 06:27:39 pm »
A new WarpIn package has been created.

It use the 2026.02.09 build of dooble.exe (new tab + for example).
It now also contain libvpx-legacy-6 and the WPUrl parameter issue has been addressed.

The WarpIn package use another method than setting DOOBLE_HOME to run in parallell to QT5.
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A lot of people here drive Tesla cars, and they've been putting stickers on them apologizing for Elon. I don't see the same for HP computers. Meg Whitman famously brought HP from the largest computer company in the world to one that was not even in the top 10. After than, she ran a very unsuccessful campaign for governor of California.

I don't want to demonize HP, but your headline go me thinking about computer history. I don't advocate politics -- OS/2 users from all political camps are welcome. But I do acknowledge that politics exist. When I did OS/2 consulting, I supported HP computers along with the rest. HP isn't going to help us much. Lenovo, my goto brand, isn't going to help much either.

It would be cool if we could align with one of the brands with open-source BIOS and non-proprietary hardware. They are obscure at this point, but I hope they will grow. The right to repair movement might help us get better long-term prospects for OS/2-compatible hardware.
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Internet / Re: Dooble releases-Qt6
« Last post by David McKenna on March 08, 2026, 03:42:24 pm »
Dave,

  OK, there's more to it. I got your latest Dooble and tried it, but no difference with the new sqlite. Works fine with the old one.

  One thing I had forgotten about - I use a separate DOOBLE_HOME directory for the QT6 version of Dooble and set that on the 'Environment' tab of the objects' settings page. If I remove that setting and just let it use the default (which is also used by the QT5 version) then the QT6 version of Dooble works fine with the new sqlite and all settings are used and can be changed. Soon as I try to set the 'DOOBLE_HOME' environment it stops working - even if I use the default of 'DOOBLE_HOME=C:\Home\.dooble'.

 So the problem is the 'DOOBLE_HOME' variable it seems.

Regards,

EDIT: it gets more interesting: On the 'Settings' page of Dooble at the upper left it shows the directory it is using for settings. When using the default (that is: no DOOBLE_HOME specified) it shows 'C:/Home\.dooble'. So I tried setting 'DOOBLE_HOME' to 'C:/Home\.dooble2' using the new sqlite and it worked! So the real problem is the slash after the drive letter...
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