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Applications / Re: Question
« on: June 13, 2019, 11:16:36 pm »
Program is Home Plan Pro.  I had this working sometime ago ( an old ver of ecomstation).

If it worked with eCS, it should work with ArcaOS. How did you set it up to work in eCS? Was it in WinOS2, under ODIN, or some other way? Since you say it works in win '95, I suspect that it was using ODIN. Install ODIN (it is probably already installed), and set it to run the program.

One possible cause, would be having Hyper-threading enabled, in the BIOS. It is under the CPU settings in my T510. Hyper-threading doesn't seem to get along with the OS/2 threading model, at all.

Utilities / Re: Create an ISO from a CD
« on: June 04, 2019, 08:06:19 am »
Is there a utility or program that runs in OS/2 that I could use to create an ISO from the contents of a CD?

Years ago, Tonigy was not free, but that changed. From a message that I saved:
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Registration is free!

Use the free key:


The key is official. It can be used for non-commercial purposes with no limitation.

Note that Tonigy is an old program, so it may not work in all cases.

Multimedia / Re: SYBA USB Stereo Sound Adapter: Good or bad?
« on: June 01, 2019, 06:43:04 am »
Rewriting the USB driver stack as (almost) 32-bit is a waste of time. The performance gain will be unnoticeable because all transfers are done by the USB Busmaster DMA Hardware anyway.

I beg to differ. The  32 bit test versions are noticeably faster (with USB 2), and use less CPU, than the older versions. This is probably a very good thing, when trying to get some performance out of USB 3. Unfortunately, at the moment, it appears (to me) that HUB support is still broken, so USB 3 isn't working, for me. Apparently David does have some USB 3 devices that do work. I have no idea what hardware he is working with.

Hardware / Re: Warpstock Europe
« on: May 22, 2019, 06:31:29 am »
Of course it's all good. But it looks like Java is no longer in the Arca Noae's plans. This is very sad.

Java is included in ArcaOS. It is done by BWW, not Arca Noae. The "plan" is (and always has been) to include the latest official release, that is available, when a new version of ArcaOS is  made available. If that ever becomes a liability for the OS, it may be dropped. If nobody does an update, it will likely remain as it is.

"Sad" perhaps, but the reality is that Arca Noae can't do everything. If you want more from BWW, donate to them. Perhaps they will be able to afford another programmer, and more things will happen.

Applications / Re: Discussion about RPM/YUM and Libcn
« on: May 09, 2019, 02:19:23 am »
It isn't a good idea, IMO.

It is definitely a very BAD idea, IMO. If a package is to include DLLs, they should have unique names, and never duplicate what is in RPM/YUM.

That's convenient for non-RPM users.

I don't know about others who package programs, but after spending a lot of hours trying to figure out how to do that with Firefox (a few years ago), I came to the conclusion that I have better things to do with my life. If a user insists on doing that manually, they can do the work to figure it out. I can usually install all listed packages in a couple of minutes, using ANPM (Arca Noae package manager), and it gets done right. At the time, there were a few people who spent days trying to get things right, for Firefox. Most packagers just don't have the time to do that, and I hate to see programmers wasting their time doing it. It should be sufficient for them to list the required packages, and let ANPM (RPM/YUM) figure it out for the users.

Applications / Re: Discussion about RPM/YUM and Libcn
« on: May 08, 2019, 02:14:45 am »
Sorry, this seems to be wrong as well, at least I remember a version that was called OS/2 Warp connect, based on Warp 3 with allmost all the network parts that have been recycled in Warp 4.

And that was subsequently replaced by SAMBA (which still has some serious problems, but works better than Lan Manager, in modern networks).

If you believe it or not, repeating things and the same arguments like you are doing for years know (just like your comments on USB 3, WLAN and so on) does not change anything or make things happen.

You have no faith. I do have a test version of the USB 3 driver. it loads, but still doesn't connect USB devices. Small steps forward, but it is just a more difficult project than anyone expected.

Saying that it isn't happening is not helpful. If Arca Noae had another 200 competent programmers, a lot of that stuff could have been done long ago. As it is, the very few who are doing the job are overworked, and they can't spend every hour of the day working on those projects. It all takes time, and every one has more than one job to do.

And if you believe it or not, it is still possible to add allmost all enhancements from ArcaOS to a Warp 4.52, without using YUM/RPM

If you actually believe that, you have no idea what you are saying. There are many things that are in ArcaOS, that cannot be made available for older versions of OS/2. The contract with IBM forbids it. Arca Noae has permission, from IBM, to distribute patched versions of the IBM software (the kernel, for example), but only for those who use ArcaOS. Nobody else has permission to do that, or to use the Arca Noae patched software. Others may do it, illegally, without drawing any interest from IBM, but Arca Noae must stick to the rules of the contract.

RPM/YUM contains far more than just DLLs (and is outside of the IBM contract). Have you installed all of that too? RPM/YUM can be installed on older versions of OS/2 (I suggest using the free Arca Noae Package Manager, to make it much easier), and takes a big step toward getting OS/2 updated to run modern software. Doing that manually is a waste of time, and effort, because you are unlikely to get all of it installed correctly. Use the proper tools for the job, and you get a better end result, with a lot less work. Having said that, I will admit that I do not like RPM/YUM, but it is the tool that is provided, and it works until a user tries to outsmart it, or until somebody provides  a bad package (which hasn't happened to me, recently).

Applications / Re: Discussion about RPM/YUM and Libcn
« on: May 07, 2019, 04:28:31 pm »
Thank you. Albeit I dare to state that "regular" implies all brands of OS/2, and mainly installs without bleedin' RPM, so it's a bit of a stretch to imply that ArcaOS and perhaps eCS 2.x are representing what "regular" is.

Sorry, but modern OS/2 includes RPM/YUM support. To say otherwise is equivalent to saying that Warp 4 was not "regular" OS/2, because it added network support, that Warp 3 did not have. "Regular" OS/2 is what is available TODAY. Even eCS is obsolete. You can add some things, like RPM/YUM support, to older versions of OS/2, but they are still obsolete.

ArcaOS will be regular for users of an English OS indeed, but that's a minority.

Language support is coming for ArcaOS. Translations are happening, but it takes a LOT of hard work (and time) to find all of the parts, change them, verify that the changes were correct, and test the changes. Then they need to adjust the rest of the OS to handle different languages properly. Many changes are already incorporated, but language support is not ready, yet.

Programming / Re: Rexx Socket / SMTP
« on: May 03, 2019, 04:25:57 pm »
PMMail has the PMMSEND utility to do things like that.

Applications / Re: Using a scanner with hplip?
« on: April 19, 2019, 08:55:08 pm »
Past experience with HP Envy series printers shows that they are almost all win printers with all that entails.

My brother has an HP Envy 4520. It works pretty much the same as my HP OfficeJet 3830. CUPS support seems to be excellent, and the printing is very good.

My previous printer was an HP <something> that worked almost the same. It had excellent CUPS support too. I never did get USB to work with it, because the printer was used, when I got it, and the USB connector was badly damaged.

In the newer machines, there is access to the internet, plus an open built in WiFi access point. You do have to either password that stuff, or better, just turn it off, which is easy enough from the built in web page.

The web page support (built into the printer) works very well for all of that (plus scanning), but that doesn't work if you use the USB interface.

FWIW, I also obtained a Brother <something>, which has a huge footprint. It also works with WiFi, and has a broken RJ45 connector, as well as USB. It works well over WiFi, with it's own web page support for things like setup and scanning. Not nearly as user friendly as the HP devices though. For a B/W laser printer, it does a good job, but you might need the BRLASER support package to use it with CUPS. I never bothered trying without that.

For HP printers, that are too new, you can probably get one of the older CUPS setups to work, although they may not support all of the features. HP seems to be pretty consistent in how their hardware works. I definitely can't say that for some other brands.

Applications / Re: Using a scanner with hplip?
« on: April 19, 2019, 04:36:37 pm »
If your HP printer can use network attachment (TCP/IP, wired, or WiFi), you can scan using the built in web page (doesn't work with USB attachment). Simply use a browser to open the address that the printer got (I don't have the details at the moment, but it is described in the manual). This also works with Brother printers (at least the one that I have).

No matter what anyone says, the use of OS/2/ArcaOS is going to end-up on the ability to actually install it on modern hardware and that includes AMD processors because of the people in industry having been bitten by the Intel meltdown and spectre CPU bugs.

FWIW, I have been using AMD processors for a number of years, with no problems. The Intel problems are irrelevant, since there doesn't seem to be any way to deliver the payload to cause problems (that could be wrong, but I, personally, agree with that assessment)

I understand your concern about AMD Ryzen processors (which I don't have), however, from what I have heard, Arca Noae has probably got that one solved. I am not sure when it will be available. USB 3 seems to be well on the way. As announced recently, they are making progress with UEFI machines, that do not have the CSS module. Language support is getting closer. Other things are in the works. The bottom line is, that Arca Noae is working, very hard, on the problems. If you insist that they should waste time in these forums, rather than work on the problems, it will take longer.

I never understood the "No Time" Reason, as it may take only a few minutes a day or even once a week to monitor what is happening there).

No, it takes much more time than that. It also takes a LOT of time to try to explain to those who don't want to know, why it all takes so long, and fend off the swords (not to mention debunk the FUD, which helps nobody). They just don't need the hassles, and they can spend their time in more productive ways (including sleeping). Those of us who are on the test team do keep them informed, when there is something worth passing on. In fact, they seem to be ahead of most of the discussion here. That is one of the reasons why they do brief news reports.

Has lowest priority for ArcaNoae as the money is to be earned in the industrial sector.

Not entirely true, but the sales contract does demand that they support the contract terms. We all need whatever the industrial sector needs, so there is a lot of overlap. They pay for the service, so they expect to get the service. Any user can buy the "full service" version of ArcaOS, but everybody seems to want it all for free. It ain't going to happen (IBM still wants their pound of flesh, and somebody needs to support those who are doing the work). Personally, I think that Arca Noae has struck a pretty good balance, and they are managing the whole project very well. Certainly it could be better, but it could also be a whole lot worse.

I am confident that USB 3 will appear, (to quote Lewis) "soonish". ("Soonish" being a technical term for "someday"  ;D)

The biggest problem is that the guy who is doing it, also has a dozen (perhaps more) other "important" projects under development, and they still haven't found a way to work 24 hours a day, while remaining productive (or even sane) over the long term.

It is coming, but it all takes time to get it right.

Programming / Re: Can an application be started and run in monoprocessor?
« on: February 28, 2019, 03:54:20 am »
The app I was specifically wondering about is VirtualPC v 5.1. It is unstable on a multiprocessor system - or perhaps just on a newer system. Do you think marking the exe for no multiple cpu would make it run?

I have been using Virtual Box 5.0.6, for a while now. It runs okay, but uses HUGE amounts of lower shared memory space. I have taken steps to use as much upper shared memory space, for other apps, as possible, and that has helped, but I still need to be very careful what I run along with VirtualBox. I wouldn't be surprised if Virtual PC is even worse, and that is what causes the instability. Using only a single CPU probably isn't going to change that, since it is a memory allocation problem (if that is, indeed, the problem).

First, try adding /MAXCPU=1  to the ACPI.PSD line, in CONFIG.SYS, and see if it does, or does not, make it better. If it does, then it may be worth changing VIRTUAL PC (and all of the parts) to use only one CPU. If not, it is more likely to be a memory allocation problem, which requires other methods.

An option is to switch to VirtualBox. You should be able to use the virtual disk (or a copy of it, to be safe). At least VirtualBox is still under development, and it isn't owned by Microsoft.

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