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Programming / Re: Mac Address in Classic Rexx
« on: September 17, 2019, 07:06:47 pm »
I can't even imagine why anybody is still using File and print Client.
Cause it simply works and it is a lot faster than any other solution when used with many files. That's the reason why I'm still running it beside samba and ftp.

I quit using File and print Client, years ago, when I started using files that are larger than 2 GB. Another reason why I abandoned it, was that windows won't work with it any more (probably Linux too). When I was testing it (many years ago), I found that the speed difference was hardly measurable, in fact SAMBA was probably slightly faster.

If File and print Client works, for you, and you are willing to accept the security risks, use it. It is not for me, any more.

Don't get me wrong, SAMBA has it's problems, but File and print Client hasn't worked, for me, for many years.

On the other hand, my favorite file transfer program is RSync. It is fast, super reliable, handles large files, and it is very efficient. It also works on the local system, as well as across the network, or even the internet.

Programming / Re: Mac Address in Classic Rexx
« on: September 16, 2019, 07:09:04 pm »
The you can read the file output.txt and see where it fail.

No I can't. Output.txt is completely blank.

It appears that the problem is that this is for the antique IBM File, and Print client. Sorry, but you didn't say that. Let us know when it works with SAMBA, I can't even imagine why anybody is still using File and print Client. SAMBA has problems, but not as many as File and Print Client.

Programming / Re: Mac Address in Classic Rexx
« on: September 15, 2019, 08:01:19 pm »

Do you not need to load support for this? I get absolutely nothing from running the program. Using TRACE ALL, it just falls through to the return.


Personally, I wouldn't call that driver "stable", in any sense of the word. I have 6 Realtek gigabit NICS, only 3 of them actually function with that driver. All of them function with MMRE.OS2. If you have a device that doesn't work reliably with MMRE, I would suggest opening an incident, and get MMRE fixed. r8169.os2 is obsolete.

Networking / Re: Samba - cached server IP address?
« on: September 05, 2019, 08:03:15 pm »
The question therefore is: does anyone know where that alias to IP address mapping is cached in the Samba configuration?

Depending on settings, C:\MPTN\ETC\samba\lmhosts will do that. It can also import the contents of C:\MPTN\ETC\hosts, sometimes, and that usually doesn't work very well, unless you only use the hosts file for private addresses. I use the hosts file from:, which blocks reams of advertising (among other things), but every once in a while, I find the contents in C:\MPTN\ETC\samba\lmhosts.

Applications / Re: XWP v1.0.13 Beta 1
« on: September 02, 2019, 05:17:06 am »
What dll pertains to the AN Removable media monitor?  Mine has disapeared from my XCenter bar and is no longer listed as a widget to install. Fortunately FM/2 has a rescan.  Once I hit RESCAN, it appears in the FM/2 drives tree.  However, the USB drives appears in no program drive listing using Save As (example: using PMView) until I use FM/2 RESCAN.  I miss the AN Removable media monitor on the XCenter.  Hopefully it can be recovered.

Tried reinstalling and still no Removable media monitor.

The files involved are: RemMedia.dll, RemMedia.xqs, RemM_de.ms1, RemM_EN.msg, and RemM_es.ms1.

You must have the wrong installer. The generally available version does not have the Removable Media Monitor widget. You need the one from your Arca Noae subscription, or from the ArcaOS installer (or just restore those files from a backup).

You can mount USB drives, using the Refresh Removable Media program. Don't forget to eject them, before removing them.

Events / Re: Do not forget: Spock (Leonard Nimoy) introduced OS/2 Warp
« on: August 29, 2019, 07:26:40 am »
They are getting rid of the tradiotional Control Panel

Well, it is still there, FWIW. It can look, and work, pretty much the same as winXP, if you simply click on View by -> small icons (or large icons, if you prefer). A few things have moved around, but it is essentially the same old thing (vista and 7 also have that. I never saw 8, or 8.1).

They also have changed the terms used which makes it more difficult to find what you're looking for.

Microsoft is making a feeble effort to appear to protect the user from themselves, and from hackers. If that happens to work out in their (MS) favor, that is a bonus (for them). It does make life more difficult for those who manage, and maintain, computers, but it also makes them a LOT more money, so they don't complain.

It just could be much much better

All software (and almost everything else that you could name) could be a lot better. The problem is, that nobody bothers to do it, because they know that the public will accept whatever they throw at them. Of course, there is also the lack of time, talent, and cash, to do it better. Even Microsoft won't spend the cash, and if they did, they would price themselves out of the market. It all depends on what the market will buy, and somebody will always be willing to do it cheaper. Of course, the old saying "You get what you pay for" comes into play. Then again, if you buy a toaster for $10, and it lasts half as long as a $30 toaster, it may be worth the aggravation of having to replace it.

I am not trying to defend anybody here, it is just the way that the market economy works. If people will buy it, somebody will supply it (then, somebody else will supply it cheaper, and so on, until whatever it is won't work any more and people stop buying it). That includes selling advertising on web sites, and in operating systems. Of course, somebody needs to pay the developers, somehow, or the product goes away. The sad part is, that when a product goes away, because somebody undercut others, it can be very difficult, and expensive, to get somebody else to start building a product that does work. There is also the knowledge factor, If nobody, or only a few people, know how to do something, it is much more difficult to produce a working product. OS/2 seems to be a classic example of that.

Events / Re: Do not forget: Spock (Leonard Nimoy) introduced OS/2 Warp
« on: August 28, 2019, 11:51:13 pm »
And what would be OS/2 like today if IBM hadn't abandoned it? Would it be nothing like ArcaOS?

If IBM had done it properly, it would probably be more like the large system operating systems (which have probably morphed into something that I know nothing about). If they had simply continued on the same path, it would probably resemble ArcaOS, in some ways, but, assuming they still had the source code, it would have been relatively easy to add goodies like 64 bit capability, WiFi, USB 3, etc. Arca Noae is basically flying blind (no source code), and trying to do the same things that IBM did with a couple of hundred people. IBM also had access to manufacturers, to find out exactly how various pieces of hardware actually work.

Later it was only Windows and then only Linux

You missed all the fun...

Windows Vista and 7 completely messed up how network configuration is done... And what were they thinking when making Windows 8? Windows 10 is a completely mess.

 XP was getting to be pretty good, near the end of life. Vista was a mess. Hackers made it necessary to change the way networking was done (not that MS got it right, but they sort of made the rules). 7 is arguably still the best windows, ever, but 10 is pretty well there, as long as you avoid as much of the additional windows crap as you can. 8 was an attempt to turn the PC into a cell phone, 8.1 almost succeeded. 9 was so bad that it never saw the light of day. I have never seen a windows cell phone. I do know that I would never actually use one, voluntarily. Android is bad enough, and, from what I have seen, Apple isn't any better.

Windows 10 is actually getting better, as long as you stay away from the garbage that it includes. However, OS/2 can still get the job done, without all the extra bells and whistles that simply slow things down (not to mention the required malware protection). Too bad it is taking so long to get the basics (WiFi, USB3, etc.), for OS/2, but that is slowly taking shape.

I am about to switch from collecting Laptops to collecting Smart watches.

It would be interesting to get OS/2 working on one of them, but I suspect that Panorama won't run the video.  :P

Events / Re: Do not forget: Spock (Leonard Nimoy) introduced OS/2 Warp
« on: August 28, 2019, 07:39:52 pm »
Why didn't IBM ship OS/2 with its own computer models?

That is actually a very complicated question, that I will attempt to answer briefly.

There were two, completely separate, divisions in IBM. One handled building PCs (and they were originally responsible for having Microsoft make the BIOS, and DOS). The other handled software development, other than DOS. Rumor has it, that they were across the hall from each other, but I don't think that was true. The IBM PC was always looked upon as being a "toy", by upper management, and they pretty much ignored anybody who said that it had a lot of potential, if it had a proper operating system. Somehow, somebody did manage to get both projects off the ground, but the two divisions hated each other, and would never cooperate. IBM actually made a pretty good PC, but others came along and made them cheaper, with better support (remember, the PC was just a "toy", so upper management didn't care). Meanwhile Microsoft was learning a lot about how to make software work, and OS/2 made a pretty good base for something cheaper, so Microsoft made sure that they owned a license to use whatever OS/2 had. They also contributed a few things to OS/2, just to be sure they had a foot in the door. Eventually, Microsoft walked out on IBM, and created windows (much to the relief of the PC department, because they had an outside alternative).

There was also the legal problems with bundling software with a PC. IBM was flat out not allowed to do that, while Microsoft engaged in a kickback scheme to get all manufacturers (including IBM - remember that the PC department hated the OS/2 department) to install their software. IBM did manage to install OS/2 on some machines, but windows was always what came up first, so most users didn't even know there was an alternative, or they figured it wasn't worth the effort to even try it. Knowledgeable businesses did recognize that OS/2 was superior, and many did embrace it. At that time, IBM did try advertising OS/2, but that fell flat on its face because they had no experience with selling to the general public (and, the marketing department didn't believe it would ever sell anyway). Meanwhile, Microsoft did a very flashy advertising program, aimed directly at young people. IBM went back into their shell (still believing that the PC had no future), and Microsoft basically took over the PC world. Eventually, the IBM PC department was sold off to Lenovo, and IBM decided to abandon OS/2.

It is an interesting study, to look at what the IBM share prices did, over that period, and upper management still looked upon the PC as being a "toy" (probably still do).

Here we are, 25 years later, still trying to make OS/2 work on modern hardware. Fortunately, the OS/2 base was well designed, and it is possible to fix many of the long term problems, and add new features. The main problem is that we just don't have enough people, who know what they are doing, to keep up with the demand, and there are licensing problems with the IBM development tools, which makes it difficult for a programmer to get started. Most "new" development is done by porting software from the Linux world, which has introduced it's own set of problems, but it does keep the platform alive.

Programming / Re: Mozturbo help
« on: August 27, 2019, 01:03:01 am »
Why the "if any", when you report that PMMDiags "actually uses that stuff"!? I don't know why PMMail on its own would ever "actually use those settings for anything" anyway, unless such an app would be some extension of PMMail.

PMMDiags uses it because it was the easiest way to find where the user installed PMMail. It was also a way to get people to actually set the defaults, but very few people use PMMDiags, so it probably doesn't matter anyway. PMMail could use it to find out which browser to use, but it hasn't been programmed to do that, it is still a setting in the PMMail program (mostly because there is no way to ensure that the default browser, or the user, would do the proper browser setting).

The basic flaw with using the WPURL settings, with PMMail, is that it can only point to one account, when Mailto is clicked in the browser. PMMail could override that, and offer the user a selection from the configured accounts, but somebody would need to do the programming. I expect that other e-mail programs would have the same restriction, unless they are programmed to handle it. There has been no demand to do it, and programmers are hard to find.

There are other WPURL settings, for other programs too (FTP, News, IRC). I don't know of any program that actually uses them, and since it is unique to OS/2, programs from other operating systems don't know about it. In most cases, there is really no reason to even consider using those settings, so they are rarely actually used.

unfortunately the install procedure of an OS sets a different default e-mail client.

In fact, the OS installer does not, and should not, set any of those things. The program that the setting points to should advertise itself by setting them. PMMail will do that, when it is installed, but the user has the choice, so it doesn't always happen. ArcaOS has included a tool so that a user can do the settings, without having to directly edit an INI file. There was an older program (REXX), that did the same thing.

Note that Firefox, Thunderbird, and Seamonkey do set them (apparently), when they are installed (perhaps only when they are set to be the default program). PMMail gives the user the option, but it IS a user option, it is not required, or done by default. If people think it would be a good idea to just do it, I can arrange that (in future versions of PMMail). Just let me know, but that would be a problem, if the user wants to use more than one e-mail program.

it's not as easy as setting a default browser, and e.g. MAILTO.EXE and YARN.EXE are e-mail solutions which may be hard to integrate.

If they work, in a way that can be integrated, you can change the settings to use them. The main "problem" is that the implementation of the WPURL stuff is totally inadequate for the way that most users would want to use it. This stuff is NOT officially a part of OS/2. AFAIR, it was added by a user (Chuck McInnes, I believe) many years ago. It was mostly ignored, although the idea does have merit.

Applications / Re: A comprehensive guide to Odin available?
« on: August 25, 2019, 08:39:53 pm »
Looking at Microsoft's current direction, I expect to use their cloud products more in the future.

Personally, I avoid any contact with anything Microsoft, as much as possible. Their "cloud" is used for creating customized advertising, and, eventually, I expect that you will probably need to pay for using anything that is out there, including your own data.

Back in the 90's, IBM was pushing cloud technology (I think they called it something else). At that time, the internet was way too slow for it to be useful, and most people realized that it is NOT a good idea to let big companies know what you are doing with your computer. The only thing that has changed, is that people don't think about personal security anymore, until some company gets caught abusing their data (they all do it, most just don't get caught). Now, the internet is approaching being fast enough to be used, but the security risks are many times worse.

Programming / Re: Mozturbo help
« on: August 25, 2019, 08:15:57 pm »
Just curious: when will those mail settings actually be used by ArcaOS?

While ArcaOS has a tool to set those settings, ArcaOS does not use them (eCS also had a tool, and the tool actually existed before eCS did, and very few things actually use them). Applications are supposed to use them (not OS/2), but most do not. In PMMail, the, soon to be renamed Migration tool (will be PMMail Utility), will set the proper stuff for PMMail (within the limits of what the settings will allow), but even PMMail doesn't actually use those settings for anything, and it doesn't matter if they are set, or not, unless you also use the available PMMDiags package (for extra logging). Then, it is used to find the location of PMMail (forcing the user to do the setting, if they want to use the package).

The bottom line is, that few, if any, apps actually use that stuff, so there has been little incentive for anybody to bother.

Applications / Re: My experience with ArcaOS & problems I've faced etc.
« on: August 12, 2019, 07:21:51 am »

I have seen the failure to start with earlier versions.  This latest beta version does not appear to have this problem.  In fact, problems I have seen in ealier versions have not appeared with this latest beta.  Rich has done an awesone job with fixing the bugs.

Rich does an awesome job on everything he touches, but he hasn't touched the problems that I see on every system I have, if I play around with startup timing, enough. Delaying the startup of as much as possible (including XCenter), gets past whatever is going wrong. I am pretty sure that the problem existed before I started to use XWP, so I doubt if Rich will fix the problem by changing XWP, or XCenter, unless he finds every place that accesses files, of any kind, and puts in a lot of retries when they can't be accessed. Even then, it would simply be a "workaround", not a fix.

Applications / Re: My experience with ArcaOS & problems I've faced etc.
« on: August 11, 2019, 11:32:46 pm »
This should not be necessary, nor is it a particularly desirable way to start XCenter.

It is the only way to start XCenter, without messing something else up, on every ArcaOS system that I have (as well as with eCS, and warp 4). If I let XCenter start itself, About 20% of the time, something else (random) fails to start later. If I start it in the ArcaOS Startup Folder, after a 3.5 second delay, I don't see those problems. I am pretty sure that the problems are not caused by either XWP or XCenter. You do need to turn OFF the setting to start it automatically, when you start it in the ArcaOS Startup Folder.

OTOH, if it is checked _and_ it consistently fails to open after a reboot or restart, please advise so I can investigate the problem.

I consistently see XCenter fail to open, on two of my systems (even after the 3.5 second delay), if I let the system make an Archive. It just hangs starting XCenter. CAD causes a reboot, and then it is okay (not doing an Archive). One other system fails to open one of the programs, started in ArcaOS Startup Folder, after doing an Archive. The symptom is exactly the same as not having the executable file present when you try to open a program icon. After the system starts, without that program, I can start the program manually.

There is a problem, for a very short period, as the system starts up, that seems to prevent finding files. Changing the startup timing can make that happen, or get around it. It all depends on exactly what is going on when the problem occurs. It is also an ancient problem, that has never been fixed, and, it is one of the main reasons why the ArcaOS Startup Folder even exists.

Setup & Installation / Re: RAM disk does not work anymore
« on: August 07, 2019, 04:12:21 pm »

Why do you have this? MEMDISK is a completely different RAMDISK, normally only used for running the installer (and it uses drive Z:).

Drive Z seems to be occupied. Any ideas? Drive Y works.

Probably because MEMDISK took drive Z:. Z: is not a good drive letter to use for anything, but it should work. Take MEMDISK out of CONFIG.SYS.

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