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Dave Yeo

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #330 on: October 25, 2022, 07:13:37 pm »
The NLS versions do seem to be coming along, with it looks like EN, DE, ES, FR, IT, NL, RU at least will be available. I believe it is all volunteers doing the translating and there is a lot to translate.
I'm not speaking for Arca Noae so could be wrong

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #331 on: October 28, 2022, 08:52:19 pm »
The NLS versions do seem to be coming along, with it looks like EN, DE, ES, FR, IT, NL, RU at least will be available. I believe it is all volunteers doing the translating and there is a lot to translate.
I'm not speaking for Arca Noae so could be wrong
Sorry, lot to translate? Only totally new stuff, all other translations are already there. And doing the translation is also something with some lets say "smell" around it if I had understood the comments in the Dutch user group, many years ago, correct.

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #332 on: October 28, 2022, 09:09:16 pm »
Hi Joop, I for one was sorry to see your site disappear. It was a useful resource for finding Java applications to run on eCS/ArcaOS. I checked it occasionally and I also thought your recommendations on how to make each program run (if it was possible) to be very useful.

Best regards, Thomas H.
Thank you for your visits to my site, I can set the site back, that is not a problem, the real problem is that many developers left Sourceforge due to their new policies. With it also the version which could run on Java 6 disappeared. Next Sourceforge did shift a lot of directories so that links don't work and they upgraded the site so it doesn't work any more with FF we have. Last, lot of developers deleted the versions which did run with Java 6. So in the end, setting my site back doesn't help much. If you have a Java program which won't run, put it up here. I still have OS/2 on a machine, just have to push the button. Today I'm typing on a Raspberry PI, the good news from that is that lots of Java programs from my site still do work fine with Java 11. Another thing I noticed is that lots of programs in U-nix are in fact beta or worse, no where near for public, but that is my oppinion, ask U-nix users and they disagree, where did we hear that before ;-). So, don't complain when it doesn't do what you want when your in OS/2, its not better in U-nix, its different.

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #333 on: October 28, 2022, 09:14:16 pm »
Hi Joop

Sorry but I don't understand what .." "smell" around it " means.

When ArcaOS 5.0 was released, I checked on Alfredo for the Spanish translation of ArcaOS. I wanted to collaborate and see what can be done. Even if you think that Warp 4.52 was already translated, translating all the rest of ArcaOS to Spanish was a hell of a job. It was too much work and I quit and let Alfredo with that.

There was a matrix with all the stuff to translate and it was just too much work, and also the complexity since not all the programs use the same standard file to translate. It was hard to get the text file that you needed to translate and understand the context... I just quit that... sorry Alfredo !!

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Doug Bissett

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #334 on: October 28, 2022, 09:19:05 pm »
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Sorry, lot to translate? Only totally new stuff, all other translations are already there. And doing the translation is also something with some lets say "smell" around it if I had understood the comments in the Dutch user group, many years ago, correct.

EVERYTHING needs to be translated (by volunteers). Any reference to "OS/2" needs to be translated to "ArcaOS" (for example, and there are many more),  It takes a LOT of work to find those things, and decide how to change the English version, then the translators need to translate it, then other translators need to make sure that the translation got done properly, and on, and on.

That doesn't include the work required to be able to build the installers for each language (which includes translating the installers). Then all of it needs to be tested, fixed, and tested again.

It is a HUGE project, and it all takes a lot of time, and effort.

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #335 on: October 28, 2022, 09:26:23 pm »
Hi Joop

Sorry but I don't understand what .." "smell" around it " means.

In other words, there was a mismatch with the group which did the translation in Dutch up to eCS2.2. I heard this which is sad. From one I got a book which is usefull with translations. I translate programs, yes, translating can be time consuming and you have to run the program in order to see if the translation is right because English as language sucks because words can have very different meanings.

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #336 on: November 19, 2022, 11:52:51 pm »
Hi

Does Hot Java Browser still runs on the latest OpenJDK that we have? The Rexx script does not run on my side.
It is just for fun, I'm not expecting to do much with it.

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #337 on: November 20, 2022, 03:30:51 pm »
English as language

Is a mixture of pre-historical Northern European of I1 haplogroup (that you're feel as your native language) and Indo-European of R1b haplogroup (absolutely different, it came with agriculture).

It's known problem :-) I wrote this message via Google Translator :-)

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Re: Java applications
« Reply #338 on: November 20, 2022, 07:52:57 pm »
Another OT post from me:

English as language sucks because words can have very different meanings
In German, there are even more terms with different meanings, so English is somehow easy for me. Moreover, we have trendy terms that sound English, but even don't exist there. And often expressions are directly translated, while the meaning depends on the context and is different in both languages.