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Andi B.

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4OS2 Location Discussion
« on: January 10, 2023, 08:52:54 am »
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4OS2 is at https://github.com/StevenLevine/4os2.
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Interesting. Then http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2 is outdated and should not be used anymore.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2023, 04:45:18 pm »
Gregg, Andi B, Dave

Can we agree that the latest open source version of 4OS2 is:
- Binary: https://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/shell/4os2_3.11.GKY.exe (2022/01/22)
- Source: https://github.com/StevenLevine/4os2

If so, I can update the http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2 wiki page pointing to that resources.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2023, 11:10:16 pm »
Gregg, Andi B, Dave

Can we agree that the latest open source version of 4OS2 is:
- Binary: https://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/shell/4os2_3.11.GKY.exe (2022/01/22)
- Source: https://github.com/StevenLevine/4os2

If so, I can update the http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2 wiki page pointing to that resources.

Regards

All the current tickets are at http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2 just as they were when the source was a openwatcom.org. We currently have no plans to stop using http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2.

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Please feel free to update the wiki.

Thanks

Gregg

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2023, 01:14:13 pm »
Gregg, I think you're latest 4os2 sources are in https://github.com/StevenLevine/4os2, right? Have you tagged your 3.11 release there? I'm not very experienced with git/github but currently I see no release tags or releases.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2023, 04:03:00 pm »
Hi

I splitted the topic just to focus on 4OS2. I updated the SVN description (not source code) on netlabs.

Long time ago I copied most of the data on the "Single Websites CMS" (like http://4os2.netlabs.org) to the SVN wiki on several project, and the projects that didn't have SVN because were too old I copied it to the wiki.netlabs.org. This is in favor that someday Netlabs may discontinue the CMS since it does not update it anymore and TRAC and MediaWiki has more defined update path.

Andi B, if you still have access to edit the http://4os2.netlabs.org web page I would recommend to link users to http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2 and try to consolidate everything there.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2023, 04:31:09 pm »
Hi Guys

I have a question about the mailing list. Are those working? There are so many links, some dead and I don't know if Netlabs email mailing list is working.

1) I sent an email to 4os2-user-subscribe@netlabs.org to subscribe, no reply yet.
-- I guess this is the EzMLM mailing list for it.

2) It says 4OS2 mailing list is mirrored to Gmane. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.4os2.user
I can not access it. (Time out)

Does the mailing list works? Is there any way to access those mailing list history?

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2023, 04:46:08 pm »
Andi B, if you still have access to edit the http://4os2.netlabs.org web page I would recommend to link users to http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2 and try to consolidate everything there.
The link is already there ;-) - Links.... No clue if I can still edit it, will check when I'm booted up the right OS. But you're right. These sites are not very easy do read/follow.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2023, 04:50:48 pm »
I have a question about the mailing list. Are those working?
No. TTBOMK these lists are dead since years.


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2) It says 4OS2 mailing list is mirrored to Gmane. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.4os2.user
I can not access it. (Time out)

Does the mailing list works? Is there any way to access those mailing list history?
gmane don't work anymore since 2-3 years too. I've some old messages here in my SM profile from all these lists. But no clue if there is anything worth the effort to export/save/make available these. There's nothing new there.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2023, 05:00:24 pm »
Hi

Please check how http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2/wiki looks now.
I'm open to suggestions.

Andi B. Is it possible to sync your bitbucket code with Stevens Github, or both development took different routes and it is not possible?

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2023, 05:22:10 pm »
Hi

I found a backup of the mailing list here:
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.org.netlabs.4os2.user
(I'm opening it with Thunderbird)

Last message is from 2014. I can not post anything else there, I guess it is read only. I haven't used a Newsgroup reader in years.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2023, 05:26:51 pm »
news://news.gmane.io/gmane.org.netlabs.4os2.user
Last message is from 2014. I can not post anything else there, I guess it is read only. I haven't used a Newsgroup reader in years.
I think there were no newer post than the ones from 06.04.2014.

gmane.org.netlabs.community was active until January 2020 at least. But I think not longer.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2023, 07:09:05 pm »
Please check how http://trac.netlabs.org/4os2/wiki looks now.
I'm open to suggestions.
Greggs latest version is at the netlabs ftp too. I guess it's the same as at Hobbes. I can upload new versions at netlabs ftp if I'm aware of.

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Andi B. Is it possible to sync your bitbucket code with Stevens Github, or both development took different routes and it is not possible?
We always worked at the same sources until the situation with perforce got to cumbersome/impossible to deal with. I've no clue why Steven created the one at github, I wasn't aware of this since a few days. Before I created the bitbucket repository I started to discuss this at the AN dev list. Also because I saw Steven made some versions for AN which I couldn't find the sources for. IIRC there was no feedback so I went ahead and created the bitbucket repo. Maybe Steven forgot about this or didn't recognize. Anyway if the github repo is the one where the current coders work it's better to delete my bitbucket repo. But then we should discuss the access rights there.

Long talking but in the end I think Gregg should decide how to move on with 4os2 cause he's the one who contributed most the last years.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2023, 11:31:23 pm »
Gregg, I think you're latest 4os2 sources are in https://github.com/StevenLevine/4os2, right? Have you tagged your 3.11 release there? I'm not very experienced with git/github but currently I see no release tags or releases.

Yes the latest sources are in https://github.com/StevenLevine/4os2. I have not tagged the release and probably can't tag it exactly because of how the updating of the repo was done. If you wish I will tag what is there now since it is close to the 3.11 release. 

I wasn't aware of the bitbucket repo. Do you have code that isn't in the git repo? I'm sure Steven would give you access to the git repo. My vote is to go with github for this. Thanks

Gregg
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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2023, 11:05:25 am »
Gregg, I think you're latest 4os2 sources are in https://github.com/StevenLevine/4os2, right? Have you tagged your 3.11 release there? I'm not very experienced with git/github but currently I see no release tags or releases.

Yes the latest sources are in https://github.com/StevenLevine/4os2. I have not tagged the release and probably can't tag it exactly because of how the updating of the repo was done. If you wish I will tag what is there now since it is close to the 3.11 release. 

I wasn't aware of the bitbucket repo. Do you have code that isn't in the git repo? I'm sure Steven would give you access to the git repo. My vote is to go with github for this. Thanks

Gregg

Searching my emails I found that the last time I checked out from perforce was around 24.04.2020. I've nothing newer than that (which could be useful for others). So most probably Steven has the same or newer.

Tagging - I like it when properly done. But when it's not easy to tag exactly the released version it's better you wait and tag when you make the next 3.12 release (or some intermediate version distributed with ArcaOS).

github is fine cause both of you seem to have arranged with it. I mean do what you like as you're the main contributor during the last years. I don't have plans to contribute much as my work on a graphical overlay (to overcome 8k screen buffer) stalls since years anyway. I only prefer to have a common place with current sources accessible to others. In other words keep it open source :-).

I thought Steven is working on including old commit data before he wanted to create a new git repo (or did we discuss this for openwatcom?). Do you know anything about that? I fear it's impossible (to hard to do) without the help of Perforce. At least that's what I understand back then.

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Re: 4OS2 Location Discussion
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2023, 08:42:01 pm »
Searching my emails I found that the last time I checked out from perforce was around 24.04.2020. I've nothing newer than that (which could be useful for others). So most probably Steven has the same or newer.

Tagging - I like it when properly done. But when it's not easy to tag exactly the released version it's better you wait and tag when you make the next 3.12 release (or some intermediate version distributed with ArcaOS).


github is fine cause both of you seem to have arranged with it. I mean do what you like as you're the main contributor during the last years. I don't have plans to contribute much as my work on a graphical overlay (to overcome 8k screen buffer) stalls since years anyway. I only prefer to have a common place with current sources accessible to others. In other words keep it open source :-).


I thought Steven is working on including old commit data before he wanted to create a new git repo (or did we discuss this for openwatcom?). Do you know anything about that? I fear it's impossible (to hard to do) without the help of Perforce. At least that's what I understand back then.

I favor proper tagging also but it didn't work out this time because of the repo issues. 4OS2 will remain open source. I think this discussion was about openwatcom.