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Martin Iturbide

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Warpstock Europe 2024 Follow Up
« on: June 07, 2024, 08:47:22 pm »
Hello

Our friends at Warpstock Europe should be having a great time and I just want to help a little so we can follow up.
Here are the videos of Friday with a direct link of when each presentation starts, just for the people that can wait to have the videos organized (trimmed)  ;D

FRIDAY:
- Opening Warpstock Europe 2024 - Roderick Klein https://youtu.be/EDGRb5hhfSE?t=403
- BIOS UEFI MBR and GPT - Keith Merrington https://youtu.be/EDGRb5hhfSE?t=918
- EA's revisited - Keith Merrington https://youtu.be/EDGRb5hhfSE?t=4075
- EasySync an update - Keith Merrington https://youtu.be/PWBp9SyqgsU?t=416
- Enhancements for MMOS2 (Multimedia) - Gregg Young https://youtu.be/PWBp9SyqgsU?t=3161
- Whats Next for ArcaOS 5.1 ? - Lewis Rosenthal https://youtu.be/PWBp9SyqgsU?t=6906
- EasySync an update (Cont.) - Keith Merrington https://youtu.be/PWBp9SyqgsU?t=10357

Please feel free to post any personal remark that you consider interesting/important on the presentations.

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« Last Edit: June 19, 2024, 02:49:57 am by Martin Iturbide »
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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2024, 04:11:51 am »
Thank you Martin.

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2024, 05:20:17 am »
Hi All

Thanks to Martin for uploading vids.

What OS and browser are recommended for viewing youtube vids these days? I ask as Seamonkey does not work - youtube tells me "Your browser can't play this video." - and Dooble (and/or underlying support) is simply too flaky to try to watch video clips longer than a few minutes.

I seem to remember having some sort of "youtube downloader" a few years ago which may be an alternative solution if I can find a current release...


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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2024, 06:35:33 am »
Hi,

Try to use Clipgrab. Is in our repo for yum.

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2024, 07:31:08 am »
SeaMonkey along with my extensions, plays the videos here. Rest of the page doesn't display though.
I have NoScript blocking everything except youtube.com and google.video.com and uBlock Origin.
Tried VLC too, lot of certificate errors and the video seemed to hang frequently, perhaps not enough bandwidth

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2024, 01:15:36 pm »
Hi Dave

Here Seamonkey does display the rest of the page as far as I can tell.

It seems youtube will not let Seamonkey play the vids simply because Seamonkey is not on the "supported" browser list as clicking on the "Learn more" link accompanying the "Your browser can't play this video" takes me to https://www.youtube.com/supported_browsers. Funnily that page tells me

"Your browser is up to date

You can use YouTube's latest features!"


Obviously something wrong with youtube coding....

I set NoScript to allow all on that page, reloaded page but no change.


I'll give ClipCrab a try, Thanks for the pointer Rene.


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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2024, 06:44:24 pm »
Hello

Saturday is over at Warsptock Europe 2024, here are the direct link for the moment:
- UEFI applications - Keith Merrington - https://youtu.be/bd6mplAlwdY?t=389
- Quiz with 50 random OS/2 questions & answers - Keith Merrington - https://youtu.be/bd6mplAlwdY?t=3258
- FM/2 Update - Gregg Young - https://youtu.be/33mv6RGW6vY?t=329
- ArcaOS in Your Language: Would could be so Hard ? - Lewis Rosenthal - https://youtu.be/33mv6RGW6vY?t=3512

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2024, 04:39:13 pm »
Hello again

I missed the Warpstock Europe 2024 Sunday Mourning, and it seems that the video is "unlisted", so I can not find the link.

I was only able to see the Sunday Afternoon string and I have this links:

- rEFInd the UEFI boot manager - Keith Merrington - ?????
- Secure Boot, Behind the curtains - Keith Merrington - ?????
- Secure boot demonstration & VMware support for ArcaOS - Roderick Klein - https://youtu.be/OJpuF7dNPlQ?t=149
- Update from OS/2 VOICE/BWW - Roderick Klein - https://youtu.be/OJpuF7dNPlQ?t=4036
- Warpstock Europe 2024 closing + public auction of 3 OS/2 T-Shirt    Roderick Klein - https://youtu.be/OJpuF7dNPlQ?t=5949

Please help me out with this link I'm missing.

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2024, 09:19:04 pm »
All your links have been made private, and thus unavailable ...

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2024, 09:33:36 pm »
All your links have been made private, and thus unavailable ...
Ow.
Let's see what is Roderick's plan. Maybe they are cutting the files and will make them available online in a more organized way.

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2040 Follow Up
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2024, 08:19:24 pm »
Hi Martin,

first a typo, it is the 2024 follow up ;-)

I did watch the videos after the event before those have been deleted or made private.

The most important things for me are those with the news I exactly expected:

- WLAN: not even on the agenda, "We hear you" - but nothing happens, same since 2017  :-\

- German NLC Version: "might be with the 5.1.1 release...." or might not, same since 2017. Instead there have been some explanation, why NLCs do take so long, 7 years now.  ::)

- but as ArcaNoae said: "The worst one can do is to blame the developers or ArcaNoae."  :-\

So nothing new, that is what answers Rodericks Questions at the end of the event, why only a few people ( I do not know exactly how many at all attended, found no information there ) from Germany attend.
There are no news other than those everybody did know before.

Everything else I saw was about UEFI/GPT, there have been really great stuff from Keith Merrington, the only video online again. I would recommend to view this!

I admire all the work, Roderick and his team has put in this event, but the unfortunately low acceptance was forseeable.

Roderick asked at the end about suggestions for a next years Warpstock Europe:

- Only one, maximum two days, three days are to expensive, and the schedule can not be filled for such a long time (see this years topics, wich covers almost the same related things)

I have to state that I personally will not spent any more money for ArcaOS or related products, I stopped over a year ago. Warpstock europe proofed me, that this was a wise decision.

All the best to all of you!


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Re: Warpstock Europe 2024 Follow Up
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2024, 01:06:39 pm »
Sigurd, I thought they said they were working on the wireless networking. and Louis explained why it was hard for them to nail down the drivers. I ask did you watch the same event?

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2024 Follow Up
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2024, 01:39:37 pm »
Sigurd, I thought they said they were working on the wireless networking. and Louis explained why it was hard for them to nail down the drivers. I ask did you watch the same event?

Hi Eugene,

yes, I did. As far as I remember they said that they worked sometime in the past (please see all the explanations in related Video form 2017 to 2023), somewhere at the beginning they realised that it will not work the same way as with the Multimac Drivers (transform BSD Drivers) , since then there is no progress.

May be you have more informations, a Beta of a driver or some kind of, any signs of progress other than repeated announcements since 2017?

Yes, it may seem hard to you to write in that way, believe it or not, I write it without personal malice or resentment.

Fact is: ArcaOS is focussed on Industrial Users, and of course this is entirely in their hands and is legitimate.

BUT:

For years they have given the impression that they are doing something for the end user, but nothing has happened. Just look at the annonucements from 2017 till today. Only what industrial customers benefit from made it.

Things for the End User:
- a new Browser (Bitwise Works, NO spnsoring by ArcaNoae)
- Sound Drivers (Paul Smedly)
- Touch and Stylus Drivers (Wim Brul)
and others
all have been realized by others but ArcaNoae.

The annual announcements, which were of course non-binding, but still gave the wrong impression. There are no WLAN drivers, there is no German version, that is fact.

I believed in these promises for years and paid accordingly.

After 7 (!) years, to still come and say how difficult a German translation is (even though almost all tools are available in German translation) is now just ridiculous.

The community here in Germany is more or less dead.

For me ArcaOS is dead. That's just it.

Please don't take it personal, it is "Just the way it is".  ;)
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Re: Warpstock Europe 2024 Follow Up
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2024, 02:40:49 pm »
I must say that I fully agree with Sigurd, in fact I have returned several of my computers back to Warp 4, and the other 2 are still at Aos 5.0.7.

I know that several people will say 'what about UEFI/GPT' to which my response is 'what about them, they are not part of OS/2, if they want to run windows just add another disk and install it on that.

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Re: Warpstock Europe 2024 Follow Up
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2024, 03:09:13 pm »
I must say that I fully agree with Sigurd, in fact I have returned several of my computers back to Warp 4, and the other 2 are still at Aos 5.0.7.

I know that several people will say 'what about UEFI/GPT' to which my response is 'what about them, they are not part of OS/2, if they want to run windows just add another disk and install it on that.

Same goes for me,

ARcaOS is DEAD, OS/2 not  ;) :D