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Martin Iturbide

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Re: Printer Suggestion for ArcaOS
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2025, 12:52:07 am »
Hello

Silly questions here.
- Are the PPD files the ones that has the printer configuration in CUPS? are the one from linux compatible with our CUPS? or need to be done something else to work for OS/2 ?

The Canon i-SENSYS MF272dw Linux driver (linux-UFRII-drv-v600-m17n-06.tar.gz) has a file called "cnrdrvcups-ufr2-uk-6.00-1.06.i386.rpm" and inside it has some "CNRCUPSMF2***.ppd" files.
Will it be that easy to try those?

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Re: Printer Suggestion for ArcaOS
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2025, 02:27:00 am »
Hi Martin

The ppd files usually need "cleaning up" to get rid of lines not needed by our pscript driver. If I recall correctly that is now done when using the Install CUPS Printer, have to point the app to the needed ppd file.

So, a chance that the printer may work - as long as it does not need some sort "plugin" to work with the ppd files.


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Re: Printer Suggestion for ArcaOS
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2025, 02:36:02 am »
how do i get that file out of the *rmp-file best (I have a new installaition here any not yet installed all my programs. I remember i attached some unpacker to do this job, but cannot remember which one..).
As soon as i get that file i will try to attach this one.
Btw, the new installation showed a nice printer-symbol with the printers name (but of course did not inatall a fitting driver)

I wrote to CANON, but only got a response, that began with "Sorry, but..."
Weird: they called ARCAOS an "open source system". Maybe I asked the wrong person there...
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Re: Printer Suggestion for ArcaOS
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2025, 01:16:25 pm »
Hi Andreas

I'm posting what I was able to uncompress from the RPM on my side, that may be useful. Please remember that I have no idea how CUPS internals works, we need help from someone with more CUPS experience to let us know if the pdd works or not, for this case.

Weird: they called ARCAOS an "open source system". Maybe I asked the wrong person there...
ArcaOS is not an open source system. It is close source system because of all the IBM binaries and closed drivers, with a mix of open source software (like CUPS, xWPS, RPM, WarpIn etc) on the top.

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Re: Printer Suggestion for ArcaOS
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2025, 03:01:26 pm »
Hi Andreas

I'm posting what I was able to uncompress from the RPM on my side, that may be useful. Please remember that I have no idea how CUPS internals works, we need help from someone with more CUPS experience to let us know if the pdd works or not, for this case.

Weird: they called ARCAOS an "open source system". Maybe I asked the wrong person there...
ArcaOS is not an open source system. It is close source system because of all the IBM binaries and closed drivers, with a mix of open source software (like CUPS, xWPS, RPM, WarpIn etc) on the top.

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I don't see how it will work att all w/o the source for the cups filter. As ion the PPD it clear states:
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 0 rastertoufr2"
Which means this filter is doing most of the work. Sure we could eventually build this filter, but iirc the source is closed source from canon.
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Re: Printer Suggestion for ArcaOS
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2025, 03:08:46 pm »
Hi
I don't see how it will work att all w/o the source for the cups filter. As ion the PPD it clear states:
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 0 rastertoufr2"
Which means this filter is doing most of the work. Sure we could eventually build this filter, but iirc the source is closed source from canon.
Thanks for the information Silvan. That means that the chances for this printers to run with CUPS on are low.
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Re: Printer Suggestion for ArcaOS
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2025, 07:02:04 pm »
Hi Martin

I could add that when I bought a Canon MG7550 inkjet printer/scanner there was no cups support - Canon provided linux systems with ppd files and a closed source "plugin". However, cups was developing support for that printer without using the Canon ppds or plugin, I had to "hassle" Paul into updating "our" cups and ended up with a nicely working printer.

However, looking these pages
   https://www.cups.org/ 
   https://www.pwg.org/ipp/everywhere.html 
   https://openprinting.github.io/current/
it seems the only development is IPP Everywhere.

So, it looks like cups V3 will see us all switch to IPP Everywhere .

Maybe Paul and Silvan can enlighten us further when they look into porting cups V3 ...


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Re: Printer Suggestion for ArcaOS
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2025, 08:42:37 pm »
Sure we could eventually build this filter, but iirc the source is closed source from canon.

I wrote a mail to CANON and asked for this...
« Last Edit: February 14, 2025, 09:36:50 pm by andreas »