I seem to recall that at one time, however far back, that there was an OS/2 based instant messenger that worked on a LAN without the need of an Internet connection.
I get the funny feeling that that something is just under my nose, but I can't for the like of me, think of it.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Thanks.
P.S. Just in case: I'm not looking for an Instant Messenger for use over the Internet. I have one of those.
Quote from: Ben on 2007.07.04, 19:36:21
I seem to recall that at one time, however far back, that there was an OS/2 based instant messenger that worked on a LAN without the need of an Internet connection.
I get the funny feeling that that something is just under my nose, but I can't for the like of me, think of it.
Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Thanks.
P.S. Just in case: I'm not looking for an Instant Messenger for use over the Internet. I have one of those.
Hi Ben,
There is of course, Network Messaging - which can broadcast to everyone, groups, or specific usernames. Kinda cumbersome, but works. There are also some programs (and related server apps for some of them) on Hobbes in the chat section. The other one was P2P/2 (Person to Person/2) which
*I THINK* came on the Bonus Pack CD for Warp 3 or 4...
*I THINK* it even did video conferencing with supported hardware. Been a long time since I have used or tried any of those (other than Network Messaging), so I am not sure.
There are also some REXX apps that do chat, also on Hobbes. Those can be used a variety of ways with a variety of interfaces (depending on your coding ability) from web to standalone non-GUI and GUI (using something like gpfRexx or Dr Dialog) ...
HTH,
-Robert
The simplest form is - 'net send USER Text.....' or 'net send /broadcast....' (try net send ?). This works with Win workstations too.
By the way, does anyone know a more comfortable chat solution for OS/2 and Win for my home lan? Is there any jabber server for OS/2 available? Nice client gui for OS/2? PSI would be a good client, but is there a server available?
Quote from: RobertM on 2007.07.04, 20:32:33
There is of course, Network Messaging - which can broadcast to everyone, groups, or specific usernames. Kinda cumbersome, but works. There are also some programs (and related server apps for some of them) on Hobbes in the chat section. The other one was P2P/2 (Person to Person/2) which *I THINK* came on the Bonus Pack CD for Warp 3 or 4... *I THINK* it even did video conferencing with supported hardware. Been a long time since I have used or tried any of those (other than Network Messaging), so I am not sure.
There are also some REXX apps that do chat, also on Hobbes. Those can be used a variety of ways with a variety of interfaces (depending on your coding ability) from web to standalone non-GUI and GUI (using something like gpfRexx or Dr Dialog) ...
Thanks, Robert.
Network Messaging I had forgotten about and I've been trying it out since you posted. It works, but one has to click a lot of buttons to send a message.
P2P/2 I haven't been able to find.
I have Warp 3 CDs somewhere... *checks under pillow pile in the corner*
Hi Ben,
There was recently a P2P port listed on OS/2World (maybe Azearuis? (sp)) - as well, when it comes to Network Messaging, if you are fluent in REXX, you can write your own interface to Network Messaging for sending messages (which is pretty much how different apps like UPS monitoring software send messages via Network Messaging - either through REXX or C).
-Robert
Maybe Pigeon...
Quote from: Bojan89 on 2008.07.24, 00:03:02
Maybe Pigeon...
Pigeon?
*cooos*
Oh, do tell more!
What is Pigeon precisely?
I assume they are not referring to a small feathery creature that tastes good with certain sauces? ??? ;D
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/04/07/2014230.shtml (http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/04/07/2014230.shtml) "Gaim Renamed — Now Pidgin IM" Pidgin IM? ???
Of course Pidgin IM. However, it needs the GTK+ Runtime and other things ported to OS/2 first before it could ever be used.
Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.07.24, 21:42:47
Of course Pidgin IM. However, it needs the GTK+ Runtime and other things ported to OS/2 first before it could ever be used.
Ack!
It is hardly a viable solution then... for I was looking for something that could
actually be used... :-\ *smacks forehead*
Saijin Naib; I "thank you" for the information.
I guess I will have to be more careful and try to avoid stepping into Pigeon Pooh. :D
or be careful not to be a victim of a pigeon flyby? ;D
No, it's not nearly viable unfortunately. As of right now, both SIM and MrMessage are having issues with OSCAR and are unreliable for sending messages to other OSCAR users. I hope to see these issues resolved in the near future, but that still does not help the issue of LAN messaging. I digress.
Somewhere there is a LanMan NetMessenging Tool out there that is easier to use than "Network Messenging" included with WSeB et al. I think it is IBM EWS, but not sure. May want to check Hobbes or whatever is left of the EWS repository.
As a side note, if you cant find the original IBM EWS repository, keep looking... someone out there archived it (maybe on the dreamland site? not sure... but I saw it relatively recently).
Otherwise, there are some tools on Hobbes that enable anyone semi-proficient in REXX to write their own interface to it... it seems pretty simple to interface with it... a lot of neat programs seem to do it, including A. Schwartz'z UPS monitor, APC's horrendous UPS monitor and more.
-Robert
Hi all,
This is one of the reasons I would like to see Inferno get ported to OS/2.
http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/
Network listeners are really easy to implement with inferno. Below are source files for two simple Inferno programs that took just a couple of minutes to write. Server that listens for messages and a client for sending messages on a network.
Server: http://www.tip9ug.jp/who/jalih/server3.b
Client: http://www.tip9ug.jp/who/jalih/client.b
Screenshot that shows them on action, running on top of a Plan9 operating system: http://www.tip9ug.jp/who/jalih/capture.png
--jalih
Pigeon is newer version of Telegraf/2.That is not Pidgin... >:( ;)
Quote from: RobertM on 2008.07.25, 08:53:34
Somewhere there is a LanMan NetMessenging Tool out there that is easier to use than "Network Messenging" included with WSeB et al. I think it is IBM EWS, but not sure. May want to check Hobbes or whatever is left of the EWS repository.
As a side note, if you cant find the original IBM EWS repository, keep looking... someone out there archived it (maybe on the dreamland site? not sure... but I saw it relatively recently).
-Robert
That "saw it relatively recently" rang a bell here to...
A quick hunt through my Bookmarks for /ews found ftp://os2voice.org/EWS/
You may want to add it to your bookmarks :-)
Pete
Quote from: Pete on 2008.07.30, 15:34:39
That "saw it relatively recently" rang a bell here to...
A quick hunt through my Bookmarks for /ews found ftp://os2voice.org/EWS/
You may want to add it to your bookmarks :-)
Pete
OK. Pete.
I'll check it out.
Err.. .I did check it out... it's an empty directory. :D
Thanks for the tip though, I'll look for another Employee Written Software archive...
Hi Ben
That url does not give an empty directory here; here are the 1st few listings:-
Index of ftp://os2voice.org/EWS/
Up to higher level directory
Name Size Last Modified
File:.message 1 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
File:20memu.txt 2 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
File:20memu.zip 94 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
File:alphal.txt 39 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
File:alphal.zip 1550 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
File:aping.txt 98 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
File:aping.zip 103 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
File:apmtst.txt 1 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
File:apmtst.zip 188 KB 12/12/03 00:00:00
Yes, I did clear the browser cache before re-checking.
Regards
Pete
Here are some of them...
http://www.tavi.co.uk/os2pages/ews.html
the NetUtil package should (IIRC - which I might not be) contain the tools needed to implement a REXX based replacement for NetMessenger...
-Rob
Quote from: Pete on 2008.07.31, 04:46:04
Hi Ben
That url does not give an empty directory here; here are the 1st few listings:-
Index of ftp://os2voice.org/EWS/
Yes, I did clear the browser cache before re-checking.
Regards
Pete
Works now. *shrugs*
They might have had a problem when I went up first... didn't have to do anything to get it to work.
Thank you.
... and "Thank-you" RobertM as well.