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Title: Microsoft Giving Away Vista Ultimate, With a Catch
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2007.12.12, 08:09:19
Thanks :) Me and my roomie are enrolled. Im thinking office pro or office student with encarta.
Title: Microsoft yanks free Vista, Office offer
Post by: BigWarpGuy on 2007.12.12, 19:07:10
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyId=89&articleId=9052518&intsrc=hm_topic (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyId=89&articleId=9052518&intsrc=hm_topic)
"December 12, 2007 (Computerworld) -- Microsoft Corp. on Tuesday withdrew an offer of free copies of Windows Vista Ultimate and Office 2007 in exchange for consumers agreeing to install monitoring software, saying it had exhausted the supply of software. "

Title: Re: Microsoft Giving Away Vista Ultimate, With a Catch
Post by: RobertM on 2007.12.12, 19:25:05
I truly believe that announcement is as much bull as I have heard coming from Redmond in a long time. I am sure there are reasons they stopped the program - but I doubt that is one of them.
Title: Re: Microsoft Giving Away Vista Ultimate, With a Catch
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2007.12.12, 19:27:09
Meh :\

Lol. oh well, I've got nothing to hide. Not like my ISP isnt doing the same shit anyway.
Title: Re: Microsoft Giving Away Vista Ultimate, With a Catch
Post by: Ben on 2007.12.13, 17:06:11
It never ceases to amaze me, how quickly people are to give up the privacy rights that their parents, (and/or grandparents),  DIED for you to have.

No one stops to think that maybe, just maybe something really, and truly bad, happens when a civilization proceeds down this direction. Think; what so important about privacy that someone would actually give up their life for it? You can bet that there's a very good reason why and that many people in the past knew it, and that reason you do not know. Don't you think that you should find out what that reason is?

Giving up personal rights is never anything should do casually... no matter how easy they make it for you to do.

Ask yourself, "why would they want this information?" And you can bet your bottom dollar that the answer will never with your interest in mind nor your future well being.

And just because you're hemorraging rights elsewhere doesn't mean one more will be all that they'll want, rather it should raise an alert in you and in everyone. One day all your rights will be gone. And if anyone has the slightest inkling as to whats going on in the world today, no matter where you live, rights has never in the history of mankind, been taken away so fast and so thoroughly. Why is this happening?

If someone died to get these, remember that you, (or your children), may have to die to get them back.

Thinking before giving away what some big corporation, (or government), implies is useless, is always a good thing.

My apologies for the off topic post, but in this world, right now, such issues should be first and foremost in everybody's mind.

Later.
Title: Re: Microsoft Giving Away Vista Ultimate, With a Catch
Post by: S.SubZero on 2007.12.13, 19:40:25
Quote from: Ben on 2007.12.13, 17:06:11
It never ceases to amaze me, how quickly people are to give up the privacy rights that their parents, (and/or grandparents),  DIED for you to have.
While privacy is certainly a right, it's a right controllable by the individual.  You certainly are under no obligation to ever surrender any info you consider private.  By doing so you just limit yourself to activities that do not require that info.  You don't *have* to give your social security number to a bank, but if you don't, don't expect to get that loan.  Simple.

Quote from: Ben on 2007.12.13, 17:06:11Ask yourself, "why would they want this information?" And you can bet your bottom dollar that the answer will never with your interest in mind nor your future well being.
I posted this on another forum:
User: "Vista sucks it crashes it takes alot of memory it doesn't run my apps it's unstable it blows blahblah"

MS: "Let us see what apps you run, and we can fix the specific problems and improve your experience."

Users: "SCREW YOU I DO NOT GIVE UP MY PRIVACY GRRRR!!!"

Computers do not run the handful of tiny apps they used to.  For MS to hand-test every single known application ever made for Windows since the very first one on every hardware configuration that can run Vista would take thousands of people years to do.  This is not practical.  So it makes sense for them to ask users to test for them.  Instead of just whining about a problem, they can reproduce it, and SHOW it to Microsoft directly.  What a concept!

The funny thing is open-source OS users will happily paste huge chunks of code and process lists and share all kinds of "private" stuff to get help with problems.  Willingly.  Nobody even has to ask, they just start doing it.
Title: Re: Microsoft Giving Away Vista Ultimate, With a Catch
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2007.12.13, 22:24:55
You are forgetting the distinction here however. Microsoft, or M$ as so many here refer to it, is EVVVILLLLL ZOOMG WEEEE. I voluntarily gave them access to that information, just as how I do with IE, MSN, and Office. I volunteer for the customer experience program because if something goes wrong, they can see that log and correct it. Hell, when I beta tested Vista, I got custom tailored responses to the specific errors I was having with recommendations on how to fix the errors. If they can use it to fix errors or maybe see how people actually interact with the OS, I feel that is valuable information.