Hello guys!
Yesterday I received an e-mail of an old friend and he told me Pixel had been
ported to eComStation/OS/2!
Today I downloaded it and play with it for a while... and besides some minor
redraw glitches (SDL/2 limitations) it is superb! IMHO, way better than Gimp!
It is worth trying, it is very small and fast... and it is in promotional price while
in beta (US$ 38,00), which grants access up to 2.0 version.
It works like a charm on OS/2 and eCS. The only (temporary?) drawback
is the fact it needs SDL, and therefore do not work under Panorama drivers.
This is Pixel website: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/
Regards,
Daniel Caetano
daniel@caetano.eng.br
Sorry to say but you shouldn't be that happy. This version you downloaded was made about two years ago. It's called beta 6 or something, but in my opinion it is for now a very buggy, not usuable alfa software. (You can see that for youself whne you tried a bit more).
I had my hopes two years ago also, but have given up. The eCS port is now considered "highly experimental" and not prioritized. The "core" platforms are Linux, MAcOSX and windows and just read the forum and you can see that people are really frustrated, and some are trying to be hopeful.( I will add also that this forum is the second one. The first one got full of frustrations and was replaced.) The beta 8 of those "core" platforms have been "on its way" for a long long time. A qualified guess is that you'll never see a functional version 1 for eCS. Main problems is bad communication, no timeplans held, people are waiting and waiting and waiting often for nothing....
Sorry to dissappoint you cause Pixel really seems to have potential.
I am a registered Pixel owner, I am also a photographer who would like to edit in OS/2 instead of Windows. I had high hopes for pixel but after delay after delay I have given up. There is more wrong with this app then SDL problems. If pavel was serious about getting multiplatform versions he would release a platform specific framework that other ppl could convert for multiple operating systems and thus he could make native versions for all OS with very little work himself. Anyway.. it's been well over 2 years since I bought it, with 1 minor update release which broke more then it fixed.
Quote from: djcaetano on 2008.01.15, 05:41:03
Hello guys!
Yesterday I received an e-mail of an old friend and he told me Pixel had been
ported to eComStation/OS/2!
Today I downloaded it and play with it for a while... and besides some minor
redraw glitches (SDL/2 limitations) it is superb! IMHO, way better than Gimp!
It is worth trying, it is very small and fast... and it is in promotional price while
in beta (US$ 38,00), which grants access up to 2.0 version.
It works like a charm on OS/2 and eCS. The only (temporary?) drawback
is the fact it needs SDL, and therefore do not work under Panorama drivers.
This is Pixel website: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/
Regards,
Daniel Caetano
daniel@caetano.eng.br
hey guys, This is old (I havnt checked there in a while!) but I think I will try what these guys suggested and see if I cant get Photoshop to install properly under OS/2 again. Photoshop 7 is a great app, a little dated now IMO, but would not be a bad tool to have under OS/2.
Here is the Odin GMANE posting. I will post any further developments later tonight after I give it another shot.
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.odin.user/1736
Here's to hoping I can figure this one out -_-
I had photoshop 5 working in OS/2 however 7 had too many components which made use of advanced windows functions. Unfortuantly which makes it useless for advanced photo editing.
Would love to see a pm version of gimp but I doubt that is ever going to happen.
Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.16, 17:29:36
hey guys, This is old (I havnt checked there in a while!) but I think I will try what these guys suggested and see if I cant get Photoshop to install properly under OS/2 again. Photoshop 7 is a great app, a little dated now IMO, but would not be a bad tool to have under OS/2.
Here is the Odin GMANE posting. I will post any further developments later tonight after I give it another shot.
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.odin.user/1736
Here's to hoping I can figure this one out -_-
Well, if the Mono work ever gets off the ground, there is always the Paint.Net program which I think is pretty amazing. Its free, its FAST, and its proven to be ROCK solid. Plus, its updated like, every week, and its capabilities are extensible through the use of plugin dll files. Its a dream, yes, but it could happen one day.
I have Illustrator 9 working near flawlessly under (an old version of) Odin... should work as well or better with a newer version... no real noticeable problems at all with it...
Doubt that would be useful to a photographer however, I need to be able to do accurate color profiles and such which really requires Photoshop (pixel had support for them as well). I have always been happy with the calibration of printed colors with OS/2 especially with the older epson drivers (which i hacked to make work with my newer printers). However it is obvious that I am going to be doing my work in OS/2 it is going to be within an XP VM.. (good thing I have 4gigs of ram =)
Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.16, 22:51:39
Well, if the Mono work ever gets off the ground, there is always the Paint.Net program which I think is pretty amazing. Its free, its FAST, and its proven to be ROCK solid. Plus, its updated like, every week, and its capabilities are extensible through the use of plugin dll files. Its a dream, yes, but it could happen one day.
Does Paint.net not use color profiles? I dont know, I only use it for image manipulations and adjustments that cant be easily done in MS Paint.
I cant get Photoshop (7) or Imageready to load properly under Odin, its still failing with the can not load alert resource. I've no ideas :? Can one of you guys (who have success with Odin) try it out and let me know how it goes?
Quote from: Robert Deed on 2008.01.17, 19:59:37
Doubt that would be useful to a photographer however, I need to be able to do accurate color profiles and such which really requires Photoshop (pixel had support for them as well).
How about GIMP under hoblink x11? Does it fullfill your demands?
Awesome. .net framework libraries were just made open source. Maybe this Mono project is more a reality now? If so, I cast my vote for Paint.net as a port because its pretty amazing for graphics.
Like I said I had photoshop working in Odin but the last which was fully functional was 5.0 anything newer has some issues.
Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.17, 22:14:59
Does Paint.net not use color profiles? I dont know, I only use it for image manipulations and adjustments that cant be easily done in MS Paint.
I cant get Photoshop (7) or Imageready to load properly under Odin, its still failing with the can not load alert resource. I've no ideas :? Can one of you guys (who have success with Odin) try it out and let me know how it goes?
The only problem I have with gimp is the os/2 port is very outdated and hoblink is getting long in the tooth when dealing with color matching. Hoblink has a bit of a glitch when it comes to color matching, exceed was better but I no longer have exceed :( I guess running straight xfree issnt a bad choice, though I still only have an old version of gimp.
Quote from: melf on 2008.01.17, 22:19:56
Quote from: Robert Deed on 2008.01.17, 19:59:37
Doubt that would be useful to a photographer however, I need to be able to do accurate color profiles and such which really requires Photoshop (pixel had support for them as well).
How about GIMP under hoblink x11? Does it fullfill your demands?
To bad..
Gimp 2.28 should be sufficient for many people, take a look at Alex Taylors homepage.
Even I could install it ;D
Quote from: Robert Deed on 2008.01.16, 01:12:45
I am a registered Pixel owner, I am also a photographer who would like to edit in OS/2 instead of Windows. I had high hopes for pixel but after delay after delay I have given up. There is more wrong with this app then SDL problems.
Well, I was able to find some limitations (no working screen capture, for example), but no crashes until now.
I was coping with several problems regarding screen redraw, but they were solved with the latest SDL release (released yesterday), at least in this machine (running Panorama driver, where SDL uses VMAN to manage graphics now).
Also, I registered this application, and a friend of mine also registered. The price is not big and I believe the author would care more for OS/2 version if there are more registered OS/2 users. Besides, the registration is valid for all systems (Win, OS/2, Linux, Mac...) and this is very nice. I do not expect to give up OS/2 or eCS, but I like multiplataform apps, so I can use the software wherever I go (even on my wife's WinXP machine, for example).
But I am interested on Pixel problems. If they are SDL/2 problems, I will see what can I do. If they are Pixel specific problems, I will see if I can poke Pixel's author. :P
Nonetheless, as a "one-man project", Pixel seems really impressive to me.
My kindest regards.
Quote from: djcaetano on 2008.01.22, 15:55:31
Also, I registered this application, and a friend of mine also registered. The price is not big and I believe the author would care more for OS/2 version if there are more registered OS/2 users. Besides, the registration is valid for all systems (Win, OS/2, Linux, Mac...) and this is very nice.
Also I am a registered user and I think that quite a few OS/2 users are. I think it's Pavel's way to handle his costumers - disregarding he's alone or not - that have made people to just stop showing interest. And of course lack of progress on our platform and degradation from being one of all builds to being "highly experimental" ones. The interest has been there, but has in much disappeared.
Anyway its good to hear that you made some success on your own and with the new SDL release.
Yes, Pixel would be great if there weren't that much bugs. It's not just the eCS Version that has a lot of problems.
Last year I tried the "new" version released for Windows and that one was also not usable at all.
Very simple operations didn't work and yes the lack of interest is indeed because Pavel promised to release something for month and then broke every date he promised to deliver.
The other famous problem with Pavel is that he seem to like new features...if only he would fix old problems first. :-|
I still hope Pavel will work on more stable versions and then release a new version for all platforms using the latest SDL for eCS.
Quote from: melf on 2008.01.22, 17:47:41
Quote from: djcaetano on 2008.01.22, 15:55:31
Also, I registered this application, and a friend of mine also registered. The price is not big and I believe the author would care more for OS/2 version if there are more registered OS/2 users. Besides, the registration is valid for all systems (Win, OS/2, Linux, Mac...) and this is very nice.
Also I am a registered user and I think that quite a few OS/2 users are. I think it's Pavel's way to handle his costumers - disregarding he's alone or not - that have made people to just stop showing interest. And of course lack of progress on our platform and degradation from being one of all builds to being "highly experimental" ones. The interest has been there, but has in much disappeared.
Anyway its good to hear that you made some success on your own and with the new SDL release.
I bought it, found it somewhat useful when I installed it on my laptop to test, decided I wanted to install it on something more powerful than a PII 233MHz 220MB (RAM) system and tried installing it on my desktop - it refused to take the key to activate it.
I sent a couple emails asking for help and gladly offering to uninstall the copy I was not using on my laptop, and received no reply of any kind... that is about when I gave up on Pixel. That there were no OS/2 updates since that long-ago release just helped reinforce that decision...
I'm now playing with ImageEditor, which is done by an author who is both quick to respond and helpful (see this forum thread - http://www.os2world.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,63/topic,730.msg3820/topicseen,1/#new (http://www.os2world.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,63/topic,730.msg3820/topicseen,1/#new)):
I am still hoping that Pixel gets fixed and updated for OS/2 sometime soon - but I am no longer holding my breath. One can hope though...
-Robert