Recently I installed ecs rc4 on my notebook. I use airboot as a boot manager. The problem is, that when I created logical volume during ecs installation process, the installer claimed that no partition is bootable. The only way I found to solve this problem was to create bootmanager partition. Than I could install ecs on logical. I didn't really install bootmanager, but ofcourse empty, 7 MB primary partition remained.
I think this is a bug - a precausion that should not be there. But perheps I was doing something wrong?
Lech Wiktor Piotrowski
Quote from: lewhoo on 2008.02.07, 12:31:15
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I think this is a bug - a precausion that should not be there. But perheps I was doing something wrong?
Lech Wiktor Piotrowski
Even in a two physical hard disk setup, OS/2 Boot Manager reserves an 7-10MB disk space ever since the older non-LVM version. OS/2 Boot Manager predates the existence of Air-Boot and possibly the current maintainers of the OS/2 implementation have not updated the LVM Boot Manager to recognize alternative replacements.
Notwithstanding, similar sort of behaviour may be observed under an Linux installation, when its default boot loader (GRUB) is not installed as/in the master boot record of the hard disk where an installation attempt is performed. The Linux installation routine will complain about the absence of an suitable *
known* bootable partition.
The difference between the OS/2 installation routine and that of Lnux is that the latter will provide you an option to ignore the warning --that is, implicit in the Linux routine is the trust (and freedom) allocated to the user.
OK, so I guess I have to write to some of the ecs programers. Maybe it is possible to walk around this problem in LVM.
On the other hand, you might at least perceive the context under which that precaution is necessary.
Tech savvy user vs beginner user.
Obviously, you belong to the first category since you already had Air-Boot. But consider a beginner OS/2er. Without that modal precautionary warning, s/he will not be able to boot into her/his new OS/2 installation.
Further, consider an user who comes from the WinXX side. They will attempt to apply notions from that side onto the OS/2 experience like "OS/2 should (unspoken: do something like WinXX)" or "I should (unspoken: do like I do in WinXX)." If OS/2 LVM Boot Manager did not have that precautionary warning, that beginner user will practically shoot herself/himself on the foot --and blame OS/2 for her/his naiveness. We have users like this in the forum, by the way.
Regards.
Quote from: lewhoo on 2008.02.08, 12:56:05
OK, so I guess I have to write to some of the ecs programers. Maybe it is possible to walk around this problem in LVM.
Are you using the latest version of AirBoot? eCS usually boots from JFS volumes and this usually causes problems with older versions of AirBoot. In fact, AFAIK, only the latest version recognizes and boot OS/2 correctly from a JFS partition.
That would be myself, I assume? It's alright, I believe I'm pretty open about it. But yes, having a possible precaution to protect from (noob) user error is probably best, although an over-ride should be available. This keeps both camps happy, no?
Quote from: El Vato on 2008.02.08, 17:23:51
Further, consider an user who comes from the WinXX side. They will attempt to apply notions from that side onto the OS/2 experience like "OS/2 should (unspoken: do something like WinXX)" or "I should (unspoken: do like I do in WinXX)." If OS/2 LVM Boot Manager did not have that precautionary warning, that beginner user will practically shoot herself/himself on the foot --and blame OS/2 for her/his naiveness.
Yes, but that should be, even if very strong, a warning. Now it cannot be overpassed I think.
Quote from: djcaetano on 2008.02.08, 17:50:26
Are you using the latest version of AirBoot? eCS usually boots from JFS volumes and this usually causes problems with older versions of AirBoot. In fact, AFAIK, only the latest version recognizes and boot OS/2 correctly from a JFS partition.
I am using airboot 1.5. But before, I think airboot 1.4 booted jfs too. I didnt try with older versions.
Where is possible to get Airboot 1.5? I didn't find other versions than 1.04.
Many thanks
Quote from: Carlo_Warp on 2008.02.14, 21:01:46
Where is possible to get Airboot 1.5? I didn't find other versions than 1.04.
Many thanks
I meant ofcourse 1.05 not 1.5. Hobbes: http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?sh=1&button=Search&key=air-boot&stype=all&sort=type&dir=%2F