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Title: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Rrm on 2008.04.16, 13:58:56
Umm i've noticed that, whenever i boot my pc, i get a new screen i never saw before. I have a HP computer, so it says "HP" at the first screen. Then it should stay black for a few seconds. Then windows should start. A few days ago, os/2 warp was in there, instead of the black screen. Trough googling, i at least know what it is, but i still have no idea HOW it got on my pc, as i never installed it. I can run windows perfectly fine, but i want to get rid of os/2, as it slows my booting down by at least 10 seconds... Could anyone help me in how to do it? And if someone know how this could have gotten onto my pc withotu me knowing it, that'd be usefull :P. Just one thing; i'm the only user of the computer, noone knows the password, noone is allowed to use it except me. Besides, my family couldn't install a os :P
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: warpcafe on 2008.04.16, 17:08:23
Hi Rrm,

first: Congrats to you daring to ask OS/2 people how to get rid of OS/2... ;)
Just kidding - I hope we're able to help you:

By your description, the first thing I'ld ask for would be "is there a floppy or CD left in a drive?".
Second would be to check your Windows boot.ini (hidden) file to see if someone played a joke on you.

The reason for my suggestion is that usually, if OS/2 starts, it either starts or fails and stops. Because of what you describe, there must be somthing that tells it to boot through to Windows. It could also be that something has left a boot manager kind of thing...
Can you tell us what exactly is displayed? Is there a small white square in the upper left of the screen along with a text "OS/2" ? Is there some kind of boot logo? You said
QuoteA few days ago, os/2 warp was in there, instead of the black screen.
...what exactly is displayed? A full-screen low-resolution logo, a text message...?

And... out of curiosity... how did you got to this forum? Google? Have you tried to get advice somewhere else before? Note - this is not for blaming or argue - just wanted to know...

HTH
Thomas
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Pete on 2008.04.16, 17:41:30
Hi Rrm

After having a giggle at the concept of a Windows system displaying what sounds like it could be the OS/2 Warp boot splash screen I had a think and came to the following conclusions in order of "most likely":-

1] An entertaining hoax post designed to give people like me a giggle  ;-)

2] As suggested by Warpcafe: someone has had a fiddle with a bootup file and introduced the OS/2 Warp splash screen - got any OS/2 using friends?

3] A new Windows virus that promotes OS/2 by introducing the splash screen - hopefully it does not do anything else...

4] Your computer has realised there are better operating systems than Windows and is demanding that you install OS/2 - or the latest incarnation of OS/2 which is called eComStation and works well with modern hardware, see www.ecomstation.com


A final thought does occur: If this is a 2nd user system then maybe it has had (still has?) OS/2 installed. Not sure why the splash screen should suddenly start appearing though...


Let us now the result of your investigations.

Pete
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.16, 18:43:16
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha........

Quote
Umm i've noticed that, whenever i boot my pc, i get a new screen i never saw before. I have a HP computer, so it says "HP" at the first screen. Then it should stay black for a few seconds. Then windows should start. A few days ago, os/2 warp was in there, instead of the black screen. Trough googling, i at least know what it is, but i still have no idea HOW it got on my pc, as i never installed it. I can run windows perfectly fine, but i want to get rid of os/2

Can someone please tell me that this is not the 1st April or not the day after Tax Day... in the US of A. ;D ;D ;D

On the other hand as was asked previously... "Rrm" did not say whether this is a new (previously unused machine) to remove the assumption of the presence of "Boot Manager" installed in the system?
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Rrm on 2008.04.16, 19:29:21
Well, the logo displayed is exactly like this: http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/startupshutdown/splash/os2warp4.png

Luckily it said IBM, otherwise i'd still be searching as to what it is ^^.

I had a boot manager, and installed linux in dualboot, but something went wrong so i had to use my norton ghost to recover my pc to a few days before i installed linux and the boot manager. As i said before, it worked fine for a few days and then started showing the splash screen when my pc boots. And saborion; it's not new, i've had it over a year(even tough some reinstalling occured inbetween;)). And pete; it's not hoax, i wish it were  :o.

Quote from: warpcafe on 2008.04.16, 17:08:23
...
By your description, the first thing I'ld ask for would be "is there a floppy or CD left in a drive?".
Second would be to check your Windows boot.ini (hidden) file to see if someone played a joke on you.
...

No floppies, no cd's, no SD cards... There is an external hard disk tough, but all it has is a couple of backup-ghosts and unused installers.
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.16, 19:57:12
Really cool:
Quote
Well, the logo displayed is exactly like this:

http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/startupshutdown/splash/os2warp4.png


Hey "Rrm"; Let me ask you this question: Why do you not think that you are on your way to the next best thing in discovering OS/2. So, why do you wish to have it (what is on your computer) "deleted"... why not "Go Boldly Where None Has Gone Before"! Perhaps, some "great mind" was working on something that was meant for one (you) to discover. How about putting your computer up ("as is") for sale on eBay? ;D
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: RobertM on 2008.04.16, 22:25:24
Hi Rrm,

A couple other thoughts to add to the one below.


Here are the facts related to this scenario that I can tell you...

Even with those possibilities, I'd lean more towards someone playing a trick on you (or this being a joke on us). The reasons being, even on dual OS setups, OS/2 will never display it's boot logo and then boot into Windows. It may (depending on how set up) display it's BOOT MANAGER (blue and white text based screen, no logo) and allow you to select, or do a timeout boot to whatever OS is the default selection - but you will NOT see any logos or such for the unselected OS during the boot process. It may also share partitions with other OS's (assuming they are FAT) in which case, you will not see a bootmanager menu - it will either boot to one OS or the other depending on what you selected during shutdown of the last ran OS.

So, basically, what you are describing IS MOST LIKELY NOT OS/2 booting before (or with) Windows. The only way that would be possible is OS/2 TRYING to boot before Windows because it's install floppies are on the external hard drive in it's root directory and your BIOS is set to try the external drive first (and it fails that boot and then tries the internal HDD and boots Windows).

One other possible variant would be that the external hard drive was at one time an internal drive (Warp 3 will NOT install on an external USB drive), and used to have (and mostly still does) OS/2 on it, and then you started using it as external storage, and your BIOS is set to try booting from the external drive first - if so, follow the same steps below to disable external drive boot - or simply unplug the drive.

The most likely scenario (unless one of the unlikely ones above fits) is the one that was suggested by warpcafe and then again by Pete:

2] As suggested by Warpcafe: someone has had a fiddle with a bootup file and introduced the OS/2 Warp splash screen - got any OS/2 using friends?


And the final scenario I can think of is that the drive (or image backup) you are using previously held OS/2 (Warp 3 - which is ancient) and something during your partition restores recovered some part of OS/2 Warp 3.

This though is also highly unlikely simply because OS/2 will NOT start booting and then load Windows once it's kernel is loaded.

You have a web cam or cell phone cam? Can you "videotape" the machine's startup and post it here?

Thanks,
Robert
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: warpcafe on 2008.04.16, 23:04:31
Hi RobertM, Rrm,

this
QuoteOne other possible variant would be that the external hard drive was at one time an internal drive (Warp 3 will NOT install on an external USB drive), and used to have (and mostly still does) OS/2 on it, and then you started using it as external storage, and your BIOS is set to try booting from the external drive first - if so, follow the same steps below to disable external drive boot - or simply unplug the drive.
actually is a damn good analysis, idea and conclusion! Wow. Respect, RobertM! I didn't think of that solution...
But in order to save my reputation I must admit that Rrm didn't tell about the EXTERNAL drive in the initial post... ;)

Yeah, I agree: Boot the PC without the external drive attached (or powered on). Let's see what happens.
As you said that there's all kinds of installers and Ghosts on it, chances are very likely that some "ghosting" software also has ghosted the bootmanager partition which -by any bad luck- defaulted to OS/2 only boot. But: If that drive was used for backup / storage purposes only and was used on a machine which didn't support booting from attached external drives, then the OS/2 boot was actually active but never "triggered" and thus never showed up.
Today (or since that happens), either your machines boot sequence was changed to try booting from (USB-) external devices first (which unveiled the OS/2 boot finally) or the external drive was either never before attached to your HP or not powered on at boot time.

Again, RobertM - very good analytic skills and "logically-bound imagination". You're a professional, aren't you? ;)

Regards
Thomas
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: RobertM on 2008.04.16, 23:37:29
Quote from: warpcafe on 2008.04.16, 23:04:31
Hi RobertM, Rrm,

Again, RobertM - very good analytic skills and "logically-bound imagination". You're a professional, aren't you? ;)

Regards
Thomas

Thanks! But, nah (though I have pretended to be a professional for the last 20 years)... just lots of coffee, and getting to this topic late (and thus seeing the last bit of relevant info about the external drive)... reminded me of a trick I used to use to boot certain OS's from a USB drive even when the OS didnt support it (some few BIOSs would allow using an external USB drive as if it was an internal IDE drive)...

R
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.17, 05:17:58
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Hi Rrm,

first: Congrats to you daring to ask OS/2 people how to get rid of OS/2...  ;)
Just kidding - I hope we're able to help you:


On a serious note "Rrm"; Have you ever had a look at OS/2's GUIs; if not, take a look here:

http://toastytech.com/guis/os24.html

They is a saying that "Beauty Is In The Eyes Of The Beholder"  ;D ;D ;D

Unlike you, and, if these OS/2 GUIs are sooooo...... cool (cannot quite understand why someone would wish to have any other than these on theircomputer screens...  ;D ;D ;D) ; and, maybe you do not know what the many, many other OS/2 GUIs look like making you not that eager to "explore" any further.... the feeling/mood here is one of just cannot wait for "the best of OS/2 is yet to come".  ;)

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) .....

Good luck to you anyway.

Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: warpcafe on 2008.04.17, 10:23:23
Saborion,

an operating system is the holy grail only for us zealots here.
Most of the common people (users) are not even aware that there is something like an operating system on their machine. For them, it's windows. And: They don't use an operating system, they use Word or Excel not to mention IE, MediaPlayer or PowerPoint.

Keep in mind that some people look at a PC and see a "tool" for doing something while if we look at a PC we see a candidate for installing eCS|OS/2. ;) And if Rrm wants to get rid of OS/2 traces because it spoils his experience or he feels annoyed by something he does not want to be there - we should respect this, not crucify people for NOT being convinced of our "holy mission". 8)

Cheers
Thomas
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.17, 14:48:31
Quote
Keep in mind that some people look at a PC and see a "tool" for doing something while if we look at a PC we see a candidate for installing eCS|OS/2.  ;) And if Rrm wants to get rid of OS/2 traces because it spoils his experience or he feels annoyed by something he does not want to be there - we should respect this, not crucify people for NOT being convinced of our "holy mission".  8)

Hi "warpcafe"; To me the situation is more or less like one in which someone wonders into a "church" other than the one which was intended; and, it is believed that there is something that was written/said and goes like this: "whom soever shall enter in no way shall be casted out" :) ; and, it is in that "evangelical spirit" that "Rrm" is wooed and not being "crucified" as such. ;); on the other hand - who knows if "Rrm's" destiny (like millions, and millions of others) was intended to be a member of the OS/2 flock but somehow might have gone/been led astray? Such are the tasks of the "OS/2 evangelists" ;D
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Rrm on 2008.04.17, 17:15:24
I know the booting with windows shouldn't be possible... and there is NO way i could have installed from floppies as my pc doesn't even have a floppy drive, and i don't want to spend 30$ on an external one :D.

I'll try to film my pc booting and displaying the splash screen- i KNOW it shouldn't be possible, but it appears that it is :s. After i've filmed it, i'll try unplugging the disk. If it does stop displaying the os/2 screen, i'llfiddle around in the bios t un-boot the drive :P

oh and robert; noone i know uses os/2... I wasn't even entirely sure i could find soem expert anymore, isnce it dates from 2001, according to wikipedia :P.
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Rrm on 2008.04.17, 18:09:38
here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YkGx2P3MQg

Sorry for the crappy quality, it IS youtube :P
I also left out the HP screen i get when i boot, it coems right before the os/2 screen, but my camera wouldn't take more then 40 seconds, and this is basically the best shot i got (what more can you expect from a camera designed to take pictures ^^)
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.04.17, 18:24:52
Looks like the XP noguiboot flag has been enabled in the boot.ini file, and furthermore, Id guess that the OS/2 splash is the BIOS Graphical POST image somehow. That's all I can figure right now.
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.17, 18:35:05
Quote
I also left out the HP screen i get when i boot, it comes right before the OS/2 screen
....

How about tracing back to the "source" from where you obtained your machine? The HP Logo suggests that you could have gotten a "machine" that someone at at HP or an HP Distribution was "experimenting/having some fun with. 8) 8) 8) For me, it would have been nice if booting sequence was in the reverse; re: from XP to OS/2.

BTW, This reminds me that I have got to make a check to see if an Hard Drive I had replaced sometime ago is still around.  ;D ;D ;D
 
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: warpcafe on 2008.04.17, 18:41:15
Hi all,

well... I would really like to see the ENTIRE boot process... but from what I see, it seems the (animated) XP logo was replaced by a "different boot logo" and that's it. So to recap:
- you power on the machine and get the POST screen from HP
- then right after, the sequence shown in the video starts?

Okay:
Where's the XP "nightrider" scrolling progress bar? Nothing.
Instead, after "OS/2" (which is certainly not the real one) is gone the XP login come up almost instantly.
(Which I never saw is the case in real life ;) )Thus:
The XP boot progress logo is replaced by an alternate one (in this case OS/2).

Cheers,
Thomas
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: kim on 2008.04.17, 20:37:30
Quote from: Rrm on 2008.04.17, 18:09:38
here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YkGx2P3MQg

Well, from looking at the video it's a splash screen hoax since if you all look really carefully the typical white cursor square in the upper left corner is missing. So I would suggest to check the standard Windows splash screen bitmap file if this either has been replaced with a new one or if the system points to a new hoaxed one.

Easiest way to check this and replace it with the original (if the file still exist) or another nicer boot image, download BootSkin (http://www.topdrawerdownloads.com/download/104610) and use this tool to make the changes.
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: kim on 2008.04.17, 21:04:50
I just downloaded BootSkin, was a while ago I used it, but there is actually a OS2 Warp splash screen to replace the existing Windows. So I would guess that someone installed BootSkin on your system and replaced the boot image. Check if you have a directory C:\Program Files\Stardock on your system; if yes you'll be able to see if BootSkin is installed or not.
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: RobertM on 2008.04.17, 22:22:03
Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.04.17, 18:35:05
Quote
I also left out the HP screen i get when i boot, it comes right before the OS/2 screen
....

How about tracing back to the "source" from where you obtained your machine? The HP Logo suggests that you could have gotten a "machine" that someone at at HP or an HP Distribution was "experimenting/having some fun with....

To Saborion2:
Nah, the newer HP's and numerous older ones default to displaying the HP logo (with or without the pre-boot menu options for BIOS, Recovery). That's normal on that model - and can be disabled in the BIOS (as can various pre-boot options, such as "System Recovery" which HP seems to randomly enable/disable on various models, even though hitting the key works whether or not the option is shown on screen).




To Rrm:
From looking at the video though, I would say that someone (or something - like a virus) has simply replaced the Windows boot logo (as others here have also suggested - and I fully concur with).

As Kim indicated, if it were OS/2 you would see a white block followed by OS/2 on the top right directly up till when the bootlogo came on the screen (which you dont).

In addition, when the bootlogo clears, you would either see some sort of trap information (if even briefly) or driver load information before or when an OS/2 boot failed.




Thus, it is safe to say, you are not booting to OS/2, and you are simply seeing the OS/2 logo because someone replaced the Windows boot screen with it.

As for the system taking longer to boot, that may or may not be a related issue - inotherwords:

If you dont have a virus, spyware or trojan, you can either

But at this point, other than the image itself, it would seem you do not have any components of OS/2 on the system (and technically, not even the image is from OS/2, as I suspect Windows does not understand OS/2 bootlogo format - meaning someone took an OS/2 bootlogo and converted it to the format that Windows uses for it's bootlogos).

Robert
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Rrm on 2008.04.17, 23:37:33
Well, i downloaded and installed bootskin, and when i started it, it already pointed to the os/2 warp image... I clicked the standard one, and it just shows the normal xp boot now :)
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: RobertM on 2008.04.18, 00:06:09
Quote from: Rrm on 2008.04.17, 23:37:33
Well, i downloaded and installed bootskin, and when i started it, it already pointed to the os/2 warp image... I clicked the standard one, and it just shows the normal xp boot now :)

Bingo!

Glad we all could be of help!

I'd still DEEP scan your machine for a virus or spyware or trojan... because someone - or something - changed your bootlogo (unless you happen to recall changing it in the past)... and you may wish to scan your external drive as well, just in case that was the source of the infection.

Robert
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Rrm on 2008.04.18, 17:18:13
Thanks, i sure will do. Thanks for the help guys, i really appreciate it :).
Incase anyone here wants to have a chat, feel free to contact me by mail or msn; philip_debruyne@hotmail.com :)
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.18, 17:42:29
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Thanks, i sure will do. Thanks for the help guys, i really appreciate it Smiley.
Incase anyone here wants to have a chat, feel free to contact me by mail or msn;

Hey "Rrm", Given that you have had that encounter with that OS/2 Splash Screen... (also, taking into consideration that at times certain "mysterious" things happen in a person's life for a specific purpose.  ;D ) How about you becoming an OS/2 Evangelist by joining the flock as in this way you are always in touch with the OS/2 Community!   ;) 
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Rrm on 2008.04.18, 20:36:44
lol sab you really make it look liek this is some kind of sect :P
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.18, 21:06:37
Quote from: Rrm on 2008.04.18, 20:36:44
lol sab you really make it look liek this is some kind of sect :P

No, not really "Rrm"; I was actually reading an online article about how some of all of this IT business we all currently in evolved:

QuoteWhen Gates and Allen invented the idea of selling software, they ran into criticism from both hackers and sober-sided businesspeople. Hackers understood that software was just information, and objected to the idea of selling it. These objections were partly moral. The hackers were coming out of the scientific and academic world where it is imperative to make the results of one's work freely available to the public. They were also partly practical; how can you sell something that can be easily copied? Businesspeople, who are polar opposites of hackers in so many ways, had objections of their own. Accustomed to selling toasters and insurance policies, they naturally had a difficult time understanding how a long collection of ones and zeroes could constitute a salable product.

Obviously Microsoft prevailed over these objections, and so did Apple. But the objections still exist. The most hackerish of all the hackers, the Ur-hacker as it were, was and is Richard Stallman, who became so annoyed with the evil practice of selling software that, in 1984 (the same year that the Macintosh went on sale) he went off and founded something called the Free Software Foundation, which commenced work on something called GNU. Gnu is an acronym for Gnu's Not Unix, but this is a joke in more ways than one, because GNU most certainly IS Unix,. Because of trademark concerns ("Unix" is trademarked by AT&T) they simply could not claim that it was Unix, and so, just to be extra safe, they claimed that it wasn't. Notwithstanding the incomparable talent and drive possessed by Mr. Stallman and other GNU adherents, their project to build a free Unix to compete against Microsoft and Apple's OSes was a little bit like trying to dig a subway system with a teaspoon. Until, that is, the advent of Linux, which I will get to later.

But the basic idea of re-creating an operating system from scratch was perfectly sound and completely doable. It has been done many times. It is inherent in the very nature of operating systems.

Operating systems are not strictly necessary. There is no reason why a sufficiently dedicated coder could not start from nothing with every project and write fresh code to handle such basic, low-level operations as controlling the read/write heads on the disk drives and lighting up pixels on the screen. The very first computers had to be programmed in this way. But since nearly every program needs to carry out those same basic operations, this approach would lead to vast duplication of effort....

http://www.spack.org/wiki/InTheBeginningWasTheCommandLine#head-d4d5dad233cad266c7022ada924f21ef959c8127


Remembering also that it was stated by none other than Bill Gates as saying that:
Quotethe OS/2 Operating System was a better Operating System than Windows

and, I am just curious to know why a "smart dude" like you appear to be would want to have anything to do with Windows and not something like OS/2.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.04.18, 23:05:56
That was said many years ago, and certainly was true in the Win 3.x era, but it really isnt very true at all now. Unless you mean that OS/2 has the power to be antiquated, in which case, yes, OS/2 is still better at being antiquated than Windows.
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.18, 23:38:55
Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.04.18, 23:05:56
That was said many years ago, and certainly was true in the Win 3.x era, but it really isnt very true at all now. Unless you mean that OS/2 has the power to be antiquated, in which case, yes, OS/2 is still better at being antiquated than Windows.

Actually, I could not disagree with you more; and, that is not if the OS/2 World Foundation has its way; re: the most recent Petition Letter to IBM.  ::)  ???

BTW, take a look at this site and tell me how far away are we from the CASSINI Distribution?  8)

QuoteUpdate your OS/2 installation CD-ROM with fixpaks!

http://xenia.sote.hu/~kadzsol/rexx/sajat/updcd.htm


The next frontier for OS/2 - eComStation Users (Rolls Royce Owners  ;D ) - Automatic Updates as fast as they can come! 8)


Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.04.19, 03:50:12
Sab, I have hopes for OS/2 and IBM loosening its death-grip on OS/2, but I honestly can't say I believe it is going to happen. I don't want to be a spoil-sport or a killjoy, but things just aren't looking good in that way.
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.04.19, 05:24:27
Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.04.19, 03:50:12
Sab, I have hopes for OS/2 and IBM loosening its death-grip on OS/2, but I honestly can't say I believe it is going to happen. I don't want to be a spoil-sport or a killjoy, but things just aren't looking good in that way.

Hi Saijin_Naib, Your sentiments are well understood; but, some of us are on certain missions and there is something that you have got to appreciate; and, that is: what if IBM's OS/2 programmers were not really the best-of-breed and also understood that they were not going to be the ultimate users of the Operating System and Applications that they were working on... one other thing - remember that "necessity is the mother of all inventions" (at least, so I here they say). That DOS, OS/2, Windows, Windows 95, NT, eComStation et cetera et cetera..... morphed out of something else it is incomprehensible that 20 or so years from now it should/will be still called OS/2. You have got to remember "Saijin_Naib" that "companies" may go out of business but "ideas" live on; and, it is in this context/light that the perpetual development of OS/2 idea is seen. Let me ask you this - how can you be a farmer who do not sow the seeds for the food crops and expect to see food on the family table in addition to be able to help meet the import needs of countries around the world. Now, substitute "seeds for food crops" for "OS/2 based Information Technologies (IT)" and that is the degree of confidence in this region of the world that OS/2 will Live Long and it's users will Prosper! Now, where does IBM fit into the picture if the world is to be fed.

Finally, tell me what is the profession of your best friend (who has to be convinced) at the time of a financial and economic crisis! ???  ::) ;D


Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...
Post by: RobertM on 2008.04.19, 23:07:26
GANG: Please create new topics for discussion or debates about the merits or lack thereof of various operating systems... this thread was a request for assistance (and should have remained such) - it was not a debate about operating systems or the choice thereof.

Keeping these threads on topic will help assist others in finding the help they need without having to wade through numerous off-topic posts.

Thanks,
Robert
Title: Re: Weird stuff happening...back to Rrm's real problem:
Post by: ModZilla on 2008.09.01, 06:02:40
if it were my hp id burn it in efigy, uh, sorry just kidding, instead id flash BIOS and that will make your system give up the ghost from dead IBM os...giving up any real OS/2 bitmap image...would not really warp for me :o