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OS/2 - Technical => Hardware => Topic started by: OriAl on 2008.05.14, 02:58:47
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I added a four port USB 2.0 card to my system, which has two USB 1.1 ports. Will eCS handle USB 2.0? What do I need to add to config.sys for these ports? My first USB device will be an external drive.
Thanks,
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I added a four port USB 2.0 card to my system, which has two USB 1.1 ports. Will eCS handle USB 2.0? What do I need to add to config.sys for these ports? My first USB device will be an external drive.
Thanks,
Hi OriAl
If you have added a 4 port USB2 card you have 4 ports that can all be USB2/USB1 or a mixture thereof.
It is the controllers and the device attached that determine whether the port is handling USB1 or USB2.
Download, install and run http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/usbcfgb7a.zip
The very 1st page of USBcfg (configuration notebook) will show how many of what type of controllers are available on the system - the Controllers Available bit. You should set Controller Drivers Installed to exactly the same, check the rest of your USB configuration, Exit the configuration notebook and reboot.
As to whether any of the USB stuff will work the answer is Yes - if you have fairly recent USB and IDE (Danis506.add + Daniatap.flt + recent IBM IDE update) drivers. If you plan on using fat32 formatted USB drives you will need a recent fat32 driver installed.
You may want to have a look through the USBcfg Help to get a handle on some of the parameters used by USB drivers and the Help also contains an FAQ on Removable USB drives that you might find of use.
Regards
Pete
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Thanks.
Can those drives be formatted with a different file system, possibly with Dfsee?
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Thanks.
Can those drives be formatted with a different file system, possibly with Dfsee?
Yes they can. For those of us that share files between different operating systems, we prefer FAT32. DFSee can format FAT32 or use Windows to format.
eComStation itself can format the USB drive FAT, HPFS, or JFS.
If you go with FAT32, you will need to install the latest FAT32 driver
ftp://ftp.netlabs.org/pub/fat32/fat32_09121.wpi
David
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Can they be partitioned like internal drives, with different file systems on the various partitions?
I primarily want to use it to save backed-up disk images created by DFSEE.
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Hi OriAl
The answer is Yes, you can create several volumes on a USB drive.
I have not used several different filesystems on a multi-volume USB drive but would expect it to work.
You can use DFSee to format a volume, or several, with fat32 - not sure what other formats it performs offhand.
Regards
Pete
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Usbcfg didn't show all the ports I should have (should be six - two 1.1 on motherboard, 4 2.0 on new card.) It shows 1 EHCI, 0 OHCI, and 4 UHCI . Driver revision 10.162 for all. 2 UHCI drivers installed.
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Usbcfg didn't show all the ports I should have (should be six - two 1.1 on motherboard, 4 2.0 on new card.) It shows 1 EHCI, 0 OHCI, and 4 UHCI . Driver revision 10.162 for all. 2 UHCI drivers installed.
Hi OriAl
USBcfg shows absolutely Nothing about the number of Ports on a system.
You are getting confused between Ports - where you plug in a USB device - and Controllers.
As stated previously: -
If you have added a 4 port USB2 card you have 4 ports that can all be USB2/USB1 or a mixture thereof.
It is the controllers and the device attached that determine whether the port is handling USB1 or USB2.
Example: I have an Asus M2N mainboard.
This has 1 EHCI and 1 OHCI controller onboard.
I currently have 9 ports available for use; 4 on rear of system box, 3 on front and 5 built into my Dell 1707FP monitor - Yes, that comes to 12 but:-
1 rear port and 1 monitor port are used to hook up the monitor hub to the system box and 1 rear port is occupied fulltime by my trackball so I have not counted those 3 ports as available. I can add more if I want but 9 is probably more than enough for now :-)
Looking at your post I would guess that your addin USB card has 1 EHCI and, probably, 2 UHCI controllers with the other 2 UHCI controllers being on the mainboard?
Simple advice is to follow what the USBcfg hint says when you leave the mouse over the entryfield for the number of EHCI or UHCI controllers "Set to the same value as displayed by the Available Quantity". In your case:-
EHCI 1
UHCI 4
When you have made the above changes (and any other changes you want to make) and exited USBcfg you will find that after a reboot all the Controllers will be active.
Might be worth your time to have a read through the USBcfg Help - took me long enough to put it together ;-)
Have fun
Pete
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Thank you.
I had looked at the help file, and will look some more.
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The usbcfg help file is good. My brain still isn't.
The external drive arrived. It's 500 gig (way more than I need, but my computer-fixing friend bought it for me, and it was on sale. I can't do fixing, as I'm quadriplegic, with other health issues), formatted NTFS, with a few Win utilities on it. My friend plugged it into a port in the add-on card, which should be 2.0, as it's a USB 2.0 card. Can usbcfg or eCS tell me if it's seeing the drive as USB 2.0 or 1.1 (did I miss this in the help file?) eCS found the drive (can't read it), but DFSee in eCS doesn't see it, and I don't know what to do about that..
Thank you, as always.
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Try running USBdock from programs->utils, it should tell you about the device.
Assign the drive a letter using minilvm or lvmgui (run->) and then re-attach it. That solved my issue with my cell-phone not being mounted.
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I'll try that, but I presume it still won't be readable, being NTFS.
Actually, eCS gave it a drive letter (O:), though my last partition is M:
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Hi OriAl
There is a NTFS driver for eCS - but do not bother with it as it is not any use.
Your best bet is to delete the existing partition(s), create new Volume(s) and then format it (them) with a usable file system.
If you need to share the drive between different operating systems then I guess the best answer is fat32 but I think that would require multiple volumes as there is a disk size limit - I think. Check the FAQ in the USBcfg help for some guidance there.
If you do not need compatibility between operating systems then just create 1 large volume and format it using JFS.
Regards
Pete
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I need it with multiple OSes, probably. despite my limited knowledge of all of them (OS/2 is my best, and I know I'm not that knowledgeable.). I definitely need a Fat32 partition, as the DFSEE CD reads that, and I want to create disk images as backups. So I was thinking leave part as NTFS, and create a FAT32 and a JFS partition. Or can I just boot to XP, and format the whole thing Fat32?
I see the Fat32 driver is a wpi. It's fairly easy to install?
Will eCS work with a Belkin USB hub?
Thank you,
Alan
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Hi OriAl
There is a size limit for fat32 partitions which varies a bit according to which version of Windows is in use but I do not think any of them go as high as 500Gb. You should check up on that limit before deciding what file systems and partition sizes to use.
Yes, the fat32 wpi package is easy to install.
A USB hub is purely hardware so there is no reason for any USB capable operating system to not work with it.
Regards
Pete
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Windows will not let you create a FAT32 partition over 32gb in 2k/XP, however, you can read any size fat32 volume you wish. Use Win9x or Linux to create the FAT32 volume to whatever size you wish, or use a large fat32 volume tool like here:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2006/09/20/large-external-usb-hard-drive-fat32-format-utility/
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I still can't get DFSee to find the external drive, so I can't use DFSee to format it. Usbcfg did list one removable drive in config.sys. It's plugged into the 2.0 controller, so I hope it's seen as a 2.0 device.
I also couldn't find usbdock in utilities.
If I add a hub, I suppose I run usbcfg again? Or that won't change the number of controllers (which is still 1 usb 2.0 ehci and 4 usb 1.1 uhci, though I thought it would be one or two 1.1 from the motherboard, and one 2.0 controller from the add-on card.)
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Hi
When you attach the drive can LVM see it at all? - run LVM in a command window with physical view displayed.
No, the drive is plugged into a port and *if* the device is a USB2 device then it comes under the control of a USB2 controller.
USBDock can be downloaded from the ecomstation betazone - you may already have USB Resource Manager installed; try running that from the Resource Manager page in USBcfg with the drive attached.
A hub is... a hub. It does not need any drivers or reconfiguration.
If you have USB controllers enabled on mainboard and a plugin card then USBcfg will show the total of each type of controller available without worrying about where they physically live.
You can always remove the addin card, boot the system and run USBcfg to see what controllers are available without that addin card then you can work out what is on the addin card - probably 1 * USB2 and 2 * USB1 controllers :-)
Regards
Pete
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More than likely the drive has to be made a compatibility volume. This can be done by going to
Local System > System Setup > Logical Volume Manager
Once you have started the LVM, do the following:
Click OK to any incorrect partitioning. This is nothing.
Next select from the menu
Volume > Create Volume > Create Non-bootable volumen > Create Compatibility Volume
Save.
If all goes when, you removeable disk will be recognized.
David
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I couldn't find usbdock in the betazone on the eCS site. Resource manager didn't run from usbcfg.
I brought up LVM. It found the drive, D3, listed as O: (my last partition is M:). I tried to follow the instructions here, and give it the name "External", but I don't think it took (and I hope I didn't mess anything up.)
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DFSEE sees the drive as DUMMY, with no MBR.
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I couldn't find usbdock in the betazone on the eCS site. Resource manager didn't run from usbcfg.
I brought up LVM. It found the drive, D3, listed as O: (my last partition is M:). I tried to follow the instructions here, and give it the name "External", but I don't think it took (and I hope I didn't mess anything up.)
It is in the betazone listed under files in the upper left corner. However, the betazone only shows all the files found in the beta zone when accessed from the Mensys web site.
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I can't seem to access the betazone from the Mensys site.