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Title: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: miturbide on 2008.06.21, 17:19:45
http://www.os2world.com/content/view/18127/79/ (http://www.os2world.com/content/view/18127/79/)

I think this is a positive news. Now we don't have any legal problem on porting Java to OS/2-eCS. But now we have the time/money/developers problems to port it.

Any comments ?
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: El Vato on 2008.06.21, 18:22:10
http://www.os2world.com/content/view/18127/79/ (http://www.os2world.com/content/view/18127/79/)

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Any comments ?


Yes, I like Fedora 9 and OpenJDK 64-Bit  :) (http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dwwhsvt_18crmvjxg2)

(http://Fedora9_OpenJDK_64-Bit.jpg)
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: lpino on 2008.06.21, 18:55:08
http://www.os2world.com/content/view/18127/79/ (http://www.os2world.com/content/view/18127/79/)

I think this is a positive news. Now we don't have any legal problem on porting Java to OS/2-eCS. But now we have the time/money/developers problems to port it.

Any comments ?


Hola Martin..

Just this comment: https://java7os2.dev.java.net/

;)

See ya
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.06.21, 21:45:31
Haha! Excellent Leondard. How far along is this project of yours? Keep up the work!
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: cytan on 2008.06.21, 23:03:22
http://www.os2world.com/content/view/18127/79/ (http://www.os2world.com/content/view/18127/79/)

I think this is a positive news. Now we don't have any legal problem on porting Java to OS/2-eCS. But now we have the time/money/developers problems to port it.

Any comments ?


Hola Martin..

Just this comment: https://java7os2.dev.java.net/

;)

See ya

Hi,
   It'll be great if JAVA 7 becomes a reality. Is this port currently active? I think JAVA is critical for OS/2. Note that there is a bounty for this port.

cytan
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.06.22, 03:19:39
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It'll be great if JAVA 7 becomes a reality. Is this port currently active? I think JAVA is critical for OS/2. Note that there is a bounty for this port.

cytan


This is very exciting indeed; and, the above (I believe) should have been "it would be so................. nice when JAVA 7 becomes a reality" and not "if JAVA 7 becomes a reality"  ;D ::) ;D

Does anyone remember the JAVA/OS Project (JAVA and OS/2) between "IBM" and "SUN Microsystems" that was around a few years ago?

As the saying goes.... "Better late than never"  8)

Fantastic news/development indeed.

Kindest regards.

SAB

 
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: Robert Deed on 2008.06.22, 18:03:57

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It'll be great if JAVA 7 becomes a reality. Istly active? I think JAVA is critical for OS/2. Note that there is a bounty for this port.

cytan


Java/os had nothing to do with OS/2. It was a unix based embedded os with an integrated java runtime and java based desktop and applications. IBM's only contribution to this were some of the performance tweaks they made in the OS/2 and AIX java runtime. At the time Ibm had the best performing runtime out. That didn't change until 1.3 when IBM lost interest in their runtime because OS/2 support was ending and AIX was being officially supported by sun. As far as I know what killed off Java/os was the performance advantage of compiled apps in embedded devices. Too much memory usage and the fast pace of java
development at the time

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This is very exciting indeed; and, the above (I believe) should have been "it would be so................. nice when JAVA 7 becomes a reality" and not "if JAVA 7 becomes a reality"  ;D ::) ;D

Does anyone remember the JAVA/OS Project (JAVA and OS/2) between "IBM" and "SUN Microsystems" that was around a few years ago?

As the saying goes.... "Better late than never"  8)

Fantastic news/development indeed.

Kindest regards.

SAB

 
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Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: lpino on 2008.06.22, 22:33:18
Haha! Excellent Leondard. How far along is this project of yours? Keep up the work!

Well, I would'n take credit for this. I just spilled the beans, I'm in no way connected to the project, but I'm glad someone is.

Thanks

Leonardo
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.06.23, 00:26:31
Oh okay. So would your SWT work be able to be joined with this new Java port project?
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.06.23, 21:30:24
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`Java Is Finally Free and Open`

So, how long before one is able to have (IBM's Lotus Notes 8.0, Lotus SameTime 8.0 and Lotus Symphony 1.0) run on OS/2, all needing SWT to be able to do this?.

Also, there having been a "bounty" for a port of Lotus Notes 8.0 to OS/2... Who will thus be in a position to claim this bounty! 

Thanks.

SAB

Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: Blonde Guy on 2008.06.26, 17:42:14
I'd like to join the development group. I've got a join request going at https://java7os2.dev.java.net/
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.06.26, 20:10:29
Hey "Blonde Guy",

Re:

I'd like to join the development group. I've got a join request going at https://java7os2.dev.java.net/


Do you know exactly who are the folks (company...) behind the
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Java 7 Os/2 port

Just being curious as I am also very, very much interested/having vested interest...  ::) in joining the development group.  ;)

Additionally, it would be nice if this project can be completed in time for Warpstock 2008!  ;D

Thank you very much.

Kindest regards

SAB
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: magog on 2008.07.09, 23:17:04
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`Java Is Finally Free and Open`

So, how long before one is able to have (IBM's Lotus Notes 8.0, Lotus SameTime 8.0 and Lotus Symphony 1.0) run on OS/2, all needing SWT to be able to do this?.

Also, there having been a "bounty" for a port of Lotus Notes 8.0 to OS/2... Who will thus be in a position to claim this bounty!

It might even work with SWTSwing which I used to run Eclipse, Azureus and some other apps on OS/2 that require SWT.
The big stopper so far was our old Java Runtime (1.4.1 or 1.4.2 at best) as the newer apps all require at least Java 1.5+!
I only did some short tests with the Java 1.5.07 that some have running but my experience wasn't very good (so far).
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: abwillis on 2008.07.10, 01:48:13
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`Java Is Finally Free and Open`

So, how long before one is able to have (IBM's Lotus Notes 8.0, Lotus SameTime 8.0 and Lotus Symphony 1.0) run on OS/2, all needing SWT to be able to do this?.

Also, there having been a "bounty" for a port of Lotus Notes 8.0 to OS/2... Who will thus be in a position to claim this bounty!

It might even work with SWTSwing which I used to run Eclipse, Azureus and some other apps on OS/2 that require SWT.
The big stopper so far was our old Java Runtime (1.4.1 or 1.4.2 at best) as the newer apps all require at least Java 1.5+!
I only did some short tests with the Java 1.5.07 that some have running but my experience wasn't very good (so far).

I couldn't get it to work with Lotus Sametime which will be similar to Notes in its operation in that regard.  The problem seems to be that it uses IBM Java instead of Sun's Java.  This means that SWT and a SUN port may or may not get Notes running (haven't gotten around to installing it and checking as the download I was attempting failed).
Andy
Andy
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: saborion2 on 2008.07.10, 02:44:59
Hi Andy,

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I couldn't get it to work with Lotus Sametime which will be similar to Notes in its operation in that regard. The problem seems to be that it uses IBM Java instead of Sun's Java. This means that SWT and a SUN port may or may not get Notes running (haven't gotten around to installing it and checking as the download I was attempting failed).
Andy


I find your post most interesting as I am eager myself to get IBM's Lotus Notes, Lotus SameTime, Lotus Symphony...  running on OS/2-eComStation. Perhaps, it is the appropriate time to suggest that the OS/2 World Foundation (on behalf of OS/2 users) take up these issues with IBM (perhaps, Mensys BV also) since according to them the Source-Codes for OS/2 (unlike is the case with JAVA) cannot be released to the community.

Just my two cents.  ;)

Kindest regards,

SAB

Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: herwigb on 2008.07.10, 06:47:04
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Additionally, it would be nice if this project can be completed in time for Warpstock 2008!

ROFLAO, that's a good one.
Title: Re: `Java Is Finally Free and Open`
Post by: Blonde Guy on 2008.07.10, 16:58:06
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Additionally, it would be nice if this project can be completed in time for Warpstock 2008!

ROFLAO, that's a good one.

Would you believe the project might be started in time for Warpstock 2008?

I didn't think so.