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Title: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.09.05, 20:10:55
Acer has entered the mini notebook market to compete with Asus. The price and features were so good, I couldn't pass it up. It comes preloaded with Windows or Linux. I purchased one with Win-XP for $349.00 USD.
The model features a 1.6 atom processor, 120gig harddrive (Not SSD), No CD, 8.9 display at 1024x600, Realtek wired ethernet and an atheros ar5007 wireless. We seem to have support for everything but the wireless and camera. Any loading or modification of this device will require a technique similar to the EEE PC. Acer doesnot provide a recovery CD with the device or the ability to make one, I had to order the disk.

First observations.
1. I am unable to backup or create an image of the device using a bootable USB CD like the DFSEE or GPART live CD.
USB stack fails to load, although I can resize the Windows partition with the DFSEE CD. I'm afraid to touch it until the recovery disk arrives. Not being able to mount a USB Harddrive cramps my strategy to avoid an SD card approach to getting the eCS CD contents on the HD somehow to install, I hope to have more news after the CD from Acer arrives.

2. I was able to prove the eCS USB Stack will load by making a minimal SD boot via instructions on the DFSee site.
I can't make it to a command prompt, Due to Drive letter issues with the Acer having 2 partions on the device already. The Int13 handoff is failing and I need to see if I can log what is happening to the SD card for analysis. It happens so fast, Even speed reading won't help.
 

2. There is a 5.6 gig hidden partition in use by the Bios and some recovery functionality.

3. I'm thinking Yuri's method for the EEE 901 is going to be part of the solution.

4. Suggestions from this forum are welcome.       
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.09.14, 20:06:06
Well, I did manage to get eCS 2.0 rc5 installed. or for a better term "Cloned"
I created a d: drive logical partition on a desktop. installed bare eCS and imaged it to the device using dfsee under windows on the device. <sigh>

Notes so far, Device needed Panorama drivers with the intel widescreen drivers.
WIreless genmac driver from the eeepc worked with the same results as the eeepc has. Driver intermintently disconnects and reconnects.

Biggest problem at the moment is the PS/2 Port Synaptics TouchPad, Does not work with amouse or mouse.sys.
Under amouse shows in device manager as "unknown mouse" PS/2 port and mem settings are correct for a standard PS/2 mouse.

What makes it really frustrating is that under cd booted freedos and memboot, The touchpad works! I believe it is ACPI related somehow. No bios options to work with here...

Device works good with SMP. Currently using /SMP /APIC parms with ACPI, No change in mouse behavior either way. 

Hope to provide a review and article soon but want to solve the touchpad problems first.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: EugeneGorbunoff on 2008.09.15, 00:00:10
Please try boot with ACPI.PSD without switches,

send ACPI logs to ACPI bug-tracker
http://ecomstation.ru/projects/acpitools/?action=logs
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.09.15, 19:48:07
Thanks, I'll do that.
I did run into an interesting scenario,
I updated the atheros AR5007EG driver in genmac to the latest version along with the windows reg entries,
When I booted back from windows, the touchpad worked in eCS until I rebooted eCS.
APM shutdown fails with this device as well as ctrl-alt-del rebooting. You have to power off the device to restart eCS. Windows can reboot without a hang. I'm thinking I need to import the DSDT from windows or at least compare them to see if I could add an entry in ACPI.CFG to solve the problem.

Using Boot manager, Boot up windows, restart from windows, select eCS from BM and the touchpad works.
Since the device has to be powered off on an eCS shutdown, Some setting gets lost. Starting eCS from the freshly powered up device has no touchpad present.

Usually, the complaint is, devices in eCS don't work when warm booted from windows, This is the exact opposite!!

More to follow.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.09.16, 00:47:48
Yeah, I find sometimes similar behavior here. eCS and Windows, or even Linux and eCS or Windows will argue over how the ACPI configuration is set and sometimes things will either work or not depending upon who was last to write to the tables.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.09.20, 18:48:36
While working out the touchpad problems, (still on going) the wireless genmac driver from the eeenetpc.zip works but suffers the same issue eee users are complaining about. You get connected for about 30secs. And IP traffic ceases to function although the signal shows fine. A user or 2 in other forums have reported sucess by reordering the config.sys to have uniaud load after genmac. It didn't help. Does anybody know of a solution?
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: RobertM on 2008.09.20, 21:55:10
While working out the touchpad problems, (still on going) the wireless genmac driver from the eeenetpc.zip works but suffers the same issue eee users are complaining about. You get connected for about 30secs. And IP traffic ceases to function although the signal shows fine. A user or 2 in other forums have reported sucess by reordering the config.sys to have uniaud load after genmac. It didn't help. Does anybody know of a solution?

Though I dont have a solution, perhaps I have a suggestion... have you tried REM'ing out the Uniaud drivers and seeing if the NIC still behaves the same? And, is there a way to change the IRQs/addresses that either the NIC or sound card use (perhaps it's a shared resource issue that either GenMac or UniAud isn't handling properly)?

Rob
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: EugeneGorbunoff on 2008.09.21, 10:40:46

Did you tried /CD switch for ACPI.PSD?

send ACPI logs to ACPI bug-tracker
http://ecomstation.ru/projects/acpitools/?action=logs
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.09.25, 11:51:54
Well, I did manage to get eCS 2.0 rc5 installed. or for a better term "Cloned"
I created a d: drive logical partition on a desktop. installed bare eCS and imaged it to the device using dfsee under windows on the device. <sigh>

Hi, Mr Jinx

I also bought an Aspire one but haven't succeded in installing eCS, intead I screwed up my reovery partition..! Well I swept all away and installed another copy of XP, that worked well in the end. I saw you're planning to right a review later, but could ýou just describe in steps your install method? Do you think it would be possible to clone the whole  ecs CD image to a bootable partition and boot it from there?
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.09.25, 17:29:52
That is exactly what I did.
1. I used the Dfsee boot CD to squeeze the factory windows partition to 50 gig on the Acer. That was the most Dfsee would allow.
2. I left the Acer recovery Partition intact. Turned it off in the Bios. (D2D Recovery)
3. On a spare desktop, I created a JFS bootable D: partition (20gig). I forced Genmac with another atheros driver and also the realtek RTL 8169 driver for wired. Installed Panorama. Completed the ecs install. On the first reboot of the desktop, I added the Widescreen activator and adjusted the USB statements for the Acer.
4. I booted the desktop back to the C: Partition. (Also eCS) and connected a USB fat32 formatted harddrive.
5. used Dfsee on the Desktop to capture the D: partition image.
6. unmounted the USB HD and connected it to my Win XP booted Acer One.
7. Using DFsee under windows, I Created the Boot manager partition and a 20gig OS/2 logical HPFS partition.
8. I set dfsee to work on the newly created 20 gig partition and forced JFS from the DFsee options.
9. Restored the eCS image from the USB HD under Windows and DFsee to the New 20 gig partition.
10. Once restored, I add Both WinXP and eCS to the BM menu and booted to eCS.
11. Installed the Wireless atheros driver from the eeenetpc.zip.
12. Traded the RTL8169 driver that comes with eCS. for a newer build 1.13a links on www.os2warp.be.
13. upgraded ACPI from 3.09 to 3.10 and enabled SMP.
Issues:

Touchpad only works on occasion. The newer RTL8169  claims to support the RTL8103. It loads but never connects to media. The eCS supplied driver bombs.
The wireless AR5007 driver is intermittent, Boot up device, Works for about 30secs. and quits, If you leave the device setting for a long period of time booted, It will start working with no rhyme or reason.

I'm holding back on the article until the wireless and touchpad can be figured out.   

I have tried a myriad of ACPI switches, But it seems to work best with /SMP /APIC.   
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.09.25, 18:22:22
many thanks! I will see if I can do something similar.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.09.27, 18:38:20
Touchpad problem solved (Sort of...)

I didn't look closely at the "Special keys" on this laptop, It turns out <Acer Fn> F7 toggles the touchpad on and off.
By default it is turned off by the bios post of the device and when booting OS/2. I certainly want to change this. Now to figure out if I can push a code to the keyboard buffer via startup.cmd. There are some Linux users posting tricks they used to map and modify these keys. But for now, I can at least boot up and use the <Acer Fn> F7 combo to get the touchpad working.

On the wireless network issue,

Linux users are complaining that the chassis switch to turn the Wi-Fi off and on fails to turn back on the Wi-Fi when using NDISWrapper. (Their Genmac equivalent)  On Genmac, after the Wireless stops functioning moving the switch off and on again restores the connection. Still for a limited time, but at least a clue as to what might be happening. There is also an issue with the Wi-Fi LED not working. Some linux source for the LED function is available and claims to be tied into power management and the problem somehow.

Here is the list of issues I have collected so far.

1. Touchpad not enabled by default. (Use <Acer Fn> F7 after each boot )

2. Wireless Atheros AR5007EG using the TeamOS2 EEEpc wireless driver, cannot reliably maintain network connections.

3. The wired Realtek RTL8102E does not load with the RTL810x driver. Will load with the Realtek rtl8169 v1.13 OS/2 driver but can't make a connection. (No media activity).

4. Uniaud HDA is required for sound, But Unimix does not appear to query the mixer correctly and sound is only available through the built in speakers, Phone jack does not work. (I have corrected this issue on many Dell devices using the unimix commandline . I am able to query the mixer features but using commands to change the register values fail. )

5. The device doesn't run WinXP very fast, On eCS the disk access seems kind of slow for SATA. Not sure what settings I could use with DANI506 to speed it up a little? My first SATA device. ???

6. I use a lot of SDL based applications and the performance of Panorama with SDL or vica-versa needs more work. (Using patched SDL version),

7. ACPI 3.09 shipped with eCS2.0 Beta5 does not support shutdown or warm rebooting correctly, 3.10 fixes most of that.

8. Must use APIC mode with ACPI or majority of drivers bomb.

9. External SDcard slots(2) use a host controller we don't support. (JMicron SD Host Controller) Unlike the EEEpc, You can't boot from either SD card slot via the bios. Have to use a USB SD card reader.

10. FreeDos and linux CD boot disks seem to have issues loading the USB stack on this device. I was able to build a bootable Memstick with OS/2. But other than basic commandline functions, It was so slow, It was unusable.

11. USB camera doesn't work.. (No big surprise there)

I still like having a Mini HD over an SS HD at this time, But there is a few things still needed for this device before I will stamp my "Ready for eCS" sticker on it.   
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.10.01, 17:48:42
Hi mr Jinx!

A little review of my efforts with Acer one: In the end I have closely followed your installation process. Exception is that I did a direct clone instead of restoring an image. After some tweeking in getting bootmanager to boot and some problems with eCS bootsector I managed to get a boot menu and boot to XP and eCS. But the luck was short. Soon after the eCS logo it interrupts with message "OS2 is unable to manage your harddrive. Correct the error ...." Thats it. Have you had the problem?

(I could also mention that I know have a new Acer one, the hardrive on the other one just collapsed after 4 days, so the company I bought it from exchanged it. I hope that isn't symptomatic.)
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.10.01, 23:54:16
Were you getting a black screen with no bios?

I blew the Bios out of mine 3 times. I returned the laptop the first time. When it happened to a 2nd device, I searched the internet and found the same thing was happening to linux users. To recover your device. Download the bios file from Acer V3114 is the current version. Copy the file on a freshly formated USB memory stick. Plug it in with device turned off. Hold down Ctrl-Esc on the keyboard, While turning on the power switch. the power light will start blinking. release the keyboard keys, and push the power button one more time. The USB stick will start blinking as the BIOS is being flashed. once it stops you power off and on the device and the Acer screen should re appear. You want to upgrade to the V3114 bios. It fixes a lot of things. Since reaching that level, I have not lost the bios since.

On your unable to operate problem, There was a reason I had to use the force JFS mode. Let me step through some things tonight and I'll see if I can improve the directions a little.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.10.02, 08:27:51
Black screen with no bios, exactly. Nothing happened. That was a good tip to recover the bios, thanks for that.

Yes I forced JFS also (though I didn't understand it) , I will remake it again and see if I succeed. Again ,thanks for your very helpful comments!

An UPDATE:

Success finally. I remade a HPFS-partition and then just cloned my bootable JFS to it, without the forcing-step. That worked. I had to fix my bootsector with dfsee (I owe to Jan van Wiijk to buy dfsee. Without it I had been lost!) but that is maybee due to my specific partition, I don't know.

Wlan works of course in the "half-minute way" . Sometimes I get another half minute by using the reconfigure option in xwlan, but that doesn't seem consistent. Anyway its good to be back to eCS as my older laptop died for good the other week. Compared to XP on the same computer the experience is greater speed and more accuracy. No unnessecary waiting.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.10.05, 11:10:27
I uninstalled bootmanager and installed air-boot. That worked well and gave me possibility to add another primary partition. Now using ACPI 3.11 /SMP /APIC mode. Only annoying thing is the wlan driver.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.10.05, 18:25:47
I would like to use Airboot as well. I have Window partition as a primary (C:)and eCS as a logical extended (D:).
I have 17gig free for a 3rd partition. There is a special build of Mac OSX for the Acer. I wanted to install GOS. Either product poses bootmanager issues and I seem to recall Airboot is constrained. GRUB has to be removed from GOS. I'm not even sure what issues are involved with OSX.
This leads me back to the wireless issue again. To use the acer with Max OSX, the wireless mini pciE atheros card has to be changed out for another card.  Intel cards are not seen by the Acer bios. It is recommended to use a broadcom card made by Dell. It turns out that card is well supported by Genmac and can be had on eBay for $30 US or less.

You have to open the Acer to change it.  No access cover. There are good detailed instructions on www.aspireoneuser.com. There is one person that has fitted their unit with a touchscreen, GPS, 3G modem, Bluetooth and replaced the atheros card. Amazing they got all that stuff in the little chassis. 
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.10.05, 18:28:19
Isn't it cool to see the mods that people can do? There are similar mods for the Cloudbook/G Netbook but I'm still waiting to get one.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.10.09, 20:42:51
Wlan function is really strange.

As said before the contact is intermittent, it's about 30 s to a minute and then out. But I still have an IP-number and I'm still able to wiew "hot spots" in the surroundings. I also seem to be able to view computers on my home network via the NET VIEW command, bur I can't access them.

How do one explain this? Can I receive signals, but not send or what?
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: EugeneGorbunoff on 2008.10.09, 22:43:16
please try to change parameters related to APM (suspend, .., power economy) in windows .inf file,
I don't know which variables are responsible for this. Some users adjust power of signal, etc:
http://ecomstation.ru/projects/genmac/genmac.faq
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.10.10, 09:30:58
Thanks for your input Eugene!  As a non technician this file offers "too much". There seem to be myriads of possible entries, so I really don't know what to do.  The extendedChanMode , mentioned in the FAQ does not exist there.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.10.11, 21:03:42
Well, Just to let everyone know, I have thrown in the towel on the atheros AR5007EG wireless mini pcie card for a variety of reasons.
1. I have tried about 9 variations of the Atheros drivers in Genmac unsupported mode. Either they don't work or exhibit the same problem of 30 sec connectivity.
2. I'm going to add Mac OSX on this device in the remaining 17gig freespace I have. In order to use MAC OSX on the Acer, The Atheros card needs to go bye-bye. It is replaced by a Dell 1390 mini pcie wireless card that is a Broadcom 4311 chipset with a pci id of [14E4:4318] happily supported by Genmac.  ;D I got one on eBay this morning for $15 USD and included free shipping.

3. Acer does not make it friendly to replace the card, Fortunately I'm well versed in laptop repair and the www.aspireoneuser.com site provides great instructions for doing this.

Melf, Check out this link, http://www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3193 (http://www.aspireoneuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3193)
and the forums in general to see the # of complaints on all platforms concerning the Atheros card. It may really be an issue of Acer's BIOS more than the quality of the card...

It is supposed to get here in 3 days. I'll post the results.
If we had drivers for the USB touchscreen and USB Bluetooth, I'd order those right now and do the whole device in one shot.

I am researching the CPU ram as there are stories it can be upgraded to 2gig.

There is also a guy in Mexico that has a mod to turn the Aspire one into a full tablet PC. The finished product looked so good, Acer needs to be thinking about it!
 
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.10.13, 01:21:07
Well, good louck with your rebuilding of your Acer! I will not try  it..

I saw you had problems with your sound from headphones. That works here with latest uniaud from Paul.  Another finding is that atheroscard consistently gives me another 30 s if using reconfigure  on wlan. That may be a clue for others with same problem, I  don't know.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.10.21, 21:46:34
I received the new Dell 1390 card on Saturday and installed it Sunday. Much to my surprise, The FCC ID said 4318 but in reality it is a 4311 chipset that was not supported by genmac until yesterday when I first got "Unsupported" mode working and now have it working in supported mode! It is so nice to have working internet connectivity!
Putting the card in was not fun, The thin film connectors for the touchpad and the keyboard require tweezers and good vision or you will never get them back in place.
I learned so much from figuring out the genmac structure, I am now working on the RTL 8103E (Wired) driver.
None of the Realtek drivers for OS/2 seem to work with it. The driver loads but never talks through the port.

If I get this going, It is only down to the USB camera. ANd this device is 100% supported by eCS.

I would like to see if SCITECH could be made to work somehow. This device supports dual head and under Panorama can't be switched to the external VGA. I'm sure creating a 1024x600 mode should be easy . It's getting Scitech to understand the TFT display operates at 1024x600 that is the problem. I use a lot of SDL apps and I find Panorama acts up with some of them in some strange ways.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: ddan on 2008.10.21, 22:14:44
"None of the Realtek drivers for OS/2 seem to work with it. The driver loads but never talks through the port."

This sounds typical of crossed interrupts; it's the behavior I got with an audio card that was recognized but wouldn't actually play until I re-arranged interrupts (probably by turning off unused COM port in BIOS). Think I'm safe saying that if the driver loads then it recognizes the corresponding hardware present. The SCSI ASC.ADD thread has an ongoing flail about interrupts; seems to be a growing problem for OS/2.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: morc on 2008.10.29, 10:12:47
Yesterday i tried to install ecs 2.0 RC5 via usb-cdrom.

1st try did not work. Bootet from CD but after Bootscreen "Please insert ecomstation CD".
I found Melfs hint http://bugs.ecomstation.nl/view.php?id=2202 (http://bugs.ecomstation.nl/view.php?id=2202) and tried with modified config sys (put basedev=usbd.sys /I13 top of config.sys). Installing phase 1 worked fine  :); but after reboot phase 2 didn't find the source (only hard disk was available) :(. As i have two partitions on the laptop i rebootet from the cd renamed the 2nd partitoon to "ECS_CDRUN" (i don't know if this is necessary) and copied the hole cd via xcopy an this partition. After rebooting from hdd i choosed this partition when installer asked for source and phase 2 finished without problems.  ;D

Actually i have no sound, no network and touchpad isn' working either. (i didn't install any addidtional drivers yet)
I try this evening.


 
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.10.29, 13:00:00
For sound, use Paul Smedleys latest uniaud. It works very well. Touchpad , you have to press Fn-F7 twice. Of som reason it starts locked. Wlan is (intermittenty) working with patched genmac, see earlier postings on Acer one.

eCS runs very smooth on this machine!
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.10.30, 04:13:18
Paul Smedley has 2 builds of uniaud, Be sure to use the HDA version or you will still have no sound.
The I13 switch has to be removed from config.sys before the 2nd phase. It boots from HD and the USB drivers from eCS can take over at that point. At the end of phase 1, before the reboot, you can choose management console and edit it from there. saving the need to copy the CD contents. Pay attention to my previous posts on this subject. I ended up using a hardware workaround to solve the wireless problems if you don't mind $15 and trading the internal mini pcie card. I'll share private drivers i have working if you go that route. Windows and Mac OSX are happier too. :D 
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.10.30, 09:50:05
Do you think that a program like Unetbootin could be adapted to make bootable USB drives from the eCS ISO files?

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net

It makes bootable Linux on USB flash such an easy process, eCS would benefit much from this.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: BigWarpGuy on 2008.10.31, 00:16:02
Do you think that a program like Unetbootin could be adapted to make bootable USB drives from the eCS ISO files?

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net

It makes bootable Linux on USB flash such an easy process, eCS would benefit much from this.

It would be neat if some one could port it to OS/2-eCS.  ;D Perhaps one could create a bounty for it?  ???
I tried it and it works well with Linux. Would it be difficult to use the source to create a native OS/2-eCS program?  ???

 8)
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.10.31, 00:53:16
It's how I have installed Xubuntu on my Cloudbook. I'd really like to be able to do the same for eCS. I would post a bounty but I'm rather short on money and I don't want to put more out there until atleast my first bounty is picked up.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.11.02, 03:50:17
I just had to post something, All 4 of the netbooks being discussed are now at the top of the OS/2 world forum list!
Mensys should see these are definetly  popular for eCS! Priority support please.  ;D
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2008.11.02, 08:19:45
Absolutely. I vote for support for the VIA CPU/chipset as well. I'm so happy with my C7-M it's not even funny. It gets the same battery life as the 5200mah eeePC with a 2200mah battery (even though it has a HDD and not an SSD). That's pretty win :)
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.11.10, 09:35:30
I don't know if I shall call this a solution to the wlan problem, but at least a partial one. From the aspireone user forum I got a link to latest driver, 7.6.1.106. I'va also updated my bios to the latest v 3305. Well doing that gets this behaviour: Wlan works about 2 minutes, the drops out for 30 s, then come back and works for 2 minutes and so on. That makes it possible to download thongs without watching all the time and it makes it possible to use a local network and stay connected.  Not the best, but better than before.

Driver is here: http://www.badongo.com/file/11852092  . Download button is to the right - you have to enter a code first.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.11.13, 03:20:59
It's great to hear you got a little further. I have tried that version previously. Even a few minutes is better than what we were getting.
I had previously reported the 1.3 version of the Realtek 8169 driver for OS/2 loaded wiith the onboard RTL 810x NIC but failed to communicate. If you add EARLYMEMINIT=TRUE to the config.sys the driver works! eCS 2.0 rc5 ships with the 1.2 version of the driver. Get the 1.3 version from www.os2warp.be, Thanks to the poster in the "Loading Fat32 driver hoses my NIC" posting, for the insight. I had rem'd uniaud to you name it and I never would have tried removing the fat32 driver or adding this entry.
I don't have my Atheros wireless card installed any more. However it would be interesting to see if EARLYMEMINIT=TRUE helps with that as well.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.11.13, 09:04:08
I did try EARLYMINIT=TRUE after reading the same posting, but that doesn't affect the atheros card, sorry! But it was really good news to hear that this could make the wired connection to work. Looking att the aspireone user board it seems like more people now got the atheros working even if problems seems to have been many with that card.

UPDATE: Wired connection works here too! Great Mr Jinx.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: Sigurd on 2008.11.13, 10:20:30
Hi melf,

I really appriciate all the great efforts you make to get eCS run with this netbook! This information here I got from Ed Durrant regarding his new HOWTO on eCS with the ASUS EEE 701/900 that uses the same WLAN as you already know.

I will just copy this part of his mail:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes and it's up on Hobbes in a zip file with the modified driver hacks
at the moment. .....

....The WiFi works very well indeed, I simply DO NOT get the drop out after
30 seconds that you and others have experienced.
I don't know what is
different ? In the next write-up I'll probably need to add that the
cabled ethernet connection ("Lan1") needs to be enabled and configured
with static IP and DNS settings in TCPCFG2 as using just my instructions
the port is not enabled (not sure why, but it's no "biggie").

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hope, this gives you some new hope  ;) and wish you the best to reach the goal!!

Sigurd

Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.11.13, 14:49:05
Hi Sigurd,
well that bring some kind off hope definitely. Thanks for the kind words, I just want to make it work and really rely on guys like you, Ed and Mr Jinx here :-) . Acer one is such a "sweet" machine, it works so fast and smoth in eCs compared to winXP. The last problem is in fact the atheros card - and it is frustrating. The touchpad coming up in a locked manner is no big thing. Shouldn't it be possible to write som script that switches the pad on at start up?
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: morc on 2008.11.13, 15:10:25
These are interesting news. Thanks to everybody for the efforts
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: Sigurd on 2008.11.19, 08:24:19
Hi,

at Warpstock Düsseldorf the RC 6 has been shown. This has included support for the ASUS 701/900 models regarding WLAN. You can choose the Adapter during Install process. I was able to see the driver work WITHOUT any timeout/Interruption on a 701.

I do not know but it seems to be a different one to the "patched" we used before.

In addition there is an option (following the workaround given with RC5) to install RC6 direct from USB CD Drive. This can be choosen during the "Installation with own values" menue.

So these problems should be solved as soon as the RC6 is availiable via Mensys.

Cheers

Sigurd
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.11.19, 10:02:52
That sounds certainly promising,thanks for the news!
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: MrJinx on 2008.11.19, 16:08:47
That's good news!

I think the Acer's issue with the Atheros card is relative to something in their bios power management routines, 30 secs is a strange # as well as no wifi light. the other tip was when I installed the Dell broadcom card, The wifi light comes on bright during bios post and then goes slightly dimmer once the genmac driver hits. The bios doesn't know how to control that card so it keeps power applied and doesn't try to manage it.

Using the atheros is a better option for battery life if we could figure out where in the ACPI table to poke a value to keep the wifi light on. I don't think the Asus machines attempt to manage the card through the bios but in the OS only.

With that said, Let's hope the patched version overcomes the problem.


Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.11.30, 22:46:19
Quoting a posting at news.ecomstation.com by Bill Silverstein, http://news.ecomstation.com/article.php?id=9699&group=ecomstation.support.hardware#9699

"http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/news/20081129/sam-leffler-releases-hal-source
 (http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/news/20081129/sam-leffler-releases-hal-source)
The HAL source for the Atheros chipset has been released. This may be useful in building an OS/2 version of the driver as opposed to struggling with a wrapper."

Could this be useful in genmac wrapper as well?
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2008.12.07, 17:36:51
Hi,

at Warpstock Düsseldorf the RC 6 has been shown. This has included support for the ASUS 701/900 models regarding WLAN. You can choose the Adapter during Install process. I was able to see the driver work WITHOUT any timeout/Interruption on a 701.

I do not know but it seems to be a different one to the "patched" we used before.

In addition there is an option (following the workaround given with RC5) to install RC6 direct from USB CD Drive. This can be choosen during the "Installation with own values" menue.

So these problems should be solved as soon as the RC6 is availiable via Mensys.

Cheers

Sigurd


Unfortunately there is no new driver for eeepc or acer one. As I can see it's the same as before. Installation via usb cd-drive does not work for me either. I got error drive 00 code=08, error drive 01 code=08 and then OS2!! SYS 02025, and 02027.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2009.01.07, 10:50:39
Now I've given up the atheros wlan card. I bought an intel 3945 abg mini pcie [8086:4222] for my Acer One. To exchange it was in fact easy - took me ten minutes, when prepared with this instructiv video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xKSpW3q0GY&feature=related . It shows how to change RAM, but on the way you also see the wlan-card.

At first it didn't seem to work. Installing was fine, card detected and so on but no signal. I could detect other networks around but they were weaker than normal. Tried different drivers, but no luck - just problems. So I happenend to come near my router and there it was a signal and the card worked! So I red around a bit and saw some problems with xwlan 3.x and  this card. Installed xwlan 2.13 instead - and yeah it works great - full signal strenght. Bad thing is you lose the possibility to use WPA. But the great function overrides this.

UPDATE:
I seem to have been just to positive. There is dropouts also with this card!! There is a longer "uptime" than with atheros but also a longer "down" time.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2009.01.07, 13:00:28
Some optimism again!

The dropouts in this cards case seems to depend just on the fact that I was in a place with known bad contact. Now in a place with known good contact there is no dropout. Though it seems like xwlan 2.13 overestimates signalstrenght with this card and reports higher strenght then there is - the reason why I thought it was dropouts.

With xwlan 3.x on the other hand the strenght showed very low in a known good area - and also worked as low - easily loosing connection.

Writing this now connected 20 minutes without problems.
Title: Re: Acer Aspire One Netbook Laptop
Post by: melf on 2009.01.08, 09:32:12
 Now problems with intel3945 abg solved! I made a reg-dump from winXP and transfered corresponding values to the genmac regfile. Now xwlan 3.10 works as expected and give me connection values that is realistic. xwlan 2.13 on the other hand still give to high values. If someone else have use of the regfile I exchanged against the one delivered with genmac I will upload it here. Observe that the ssid-value is my own - I really don't know if it matters whats there as xwlan take care of this. I don't know either wich value of those I changed - which was quite a few - are really relevant. Any way now everything works spendid!

http://elfonnet.nu/gnxlnlj/netw3x32.reg (http://elfonnet.nu/gnxlnlj/netw3x32.reg)