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Title: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.09, 20:18:53
Hi All

There is a Flash10 Preview available from the eCS Software Subscription Betazone so thought I'd download it and give it a try.

The short report is:-

Don't bother, it does not work.


The longer report is:-

Flash10 Preview.

The Warpin Installer should check where PROGRAMS is set - I was not impressed to find the software wanted to install to the Non-Existent [BootDrive]:\PROGRAMS location. Checking the Warpin Script used for the installation confirms that this package expects to find PROGRAMS on the BootDrive: TARGET="?:\PROGRAMS\FLASH10"

Other than the above Installation seemed to go fine so I started my browser, Seamonkey - Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090924 SeaMonkey/2.0pre

Result: Browser started and hung immediately, the mouse pointer disappeared and keyboard input was blocked. My only recourse was to press the system box Reset Button.

Overall I would say that Flash10 did a good job of crashing the system totally.

After the reboot I again tried to start the browser - and headed for another reboot.


Conclusion: Needs a bit more work... Maybe it will work on other systems/browser.


Regards

Pete
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.09, 21:53:35
Hi All

A little later the thought occurred to me: Maybe Flash10 did not work due to the amount of "clutter" that Flash7 carries with it - the Warpin install only renames 3 of those files.

I cleared Flash7 files out of my Plugins directory completely and reinstalled Flash10.

No problem starting the browser so am prepared to guess that the browser was crashing and taking the system with it due to some confusion between Flash10 and the remaining Flash7 files. This is something else that the Warpin packagers may want to look into.

Off to youtube to see how Flash10 works...

I picked on this vid clip to use as my 1st test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm9X04AGkyw&feature=topvideos

Playback was going well - both sound and video; Flash7 often delivered either/or and failing that would crash - until I clicked on my Mail/News client to see what had just arrived in my Inbox. Goodbye Seamonkey - simply disappeared, crashed and exited.

I restarted Seamonkey and used the Restore Session to get back to the youtube vid to see if it would play all the way through *if* I behaved and did not move mouse/keyboard. It crashed prior to the above point in playback but did not close the browser - hung the system instead.

I rebooted for a further attempt with the same result - reboot required. I do have a sneaking suspicion that Flash10 and Uniaud do not "get on" as well as they should - could be the build of Uniaud in use here but as it is the only working Uniaud for this system - as when the system hangs during Flash10 playback audio becomes a long squawking noise.

Well, while playing Flash10 looks and sounds good. Sadly it is not worth the hassle of having it installed here though.

Regards

Pete
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: melf on 2009.10.09, 22:38:33
As Pete say there is some hazzle with installation. Two of the packages had wrong install path - they pointed to a file instead of a directory and warpin refused to proceed. If these paths instead was changed to the plugin directory all proceeded well.

I had flash 5 and Warpin did not rename that dll , did it manually instead.

Then most of the flash sites worked very well. I don't have Petes problem with hangs and problems with mail client. I use Firefox and it crashes on this newspapers webb TV, http://www.gp.se/gptv , but so far no other place. For me this is a clear improvement of the unofficial flash 7.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: DougB on 2009.10.09, 22:56:00
I just tried it - thanks for pointing it out.

My experience is slightly different.

I agree that the WarpIn installer is sort of messed up (I never realized, that V:\FIREFOX\FIREFOX!L.EXE was a directory, that would need to be created to install plugins), but, if you override the defaults, and tell it to put stuff where it should be, it seems to install okay. It definitely should NOT simply assume that the boot drive contains a PROGRAMS directory. In fact, the eCS installer needs to be fixed, so it doesn't put it there either. I spend a LOT of time moving that stuff elsewhere (where I told it to put it in the first place). I also only use SET MOZILLA_HOME= which implies that it contains the plugins directory.

Anyway, back to the operation of FLASH 10. The first thing, that I tried it with, was a very simple FLASH picture. It worked.  Okay, on to bigger, and better (well, maybe not "better"), things. My initial attempt to access YouTube resulted in an immediate system hang. The mouse wouldn't even move. Reset button activated.

The next attempt, was back to the simple picture. It wouldn't display, but I also didn't get the message that I needed to download the FLASH player. Obviously, the crash caused something to not be saved. I re-installed, using the WarpIn installer. Now, the simple picture worked again. Okay, leave that page, and go back to it. The system froze, solid, as soon as it attempted to access the web site, never mind going to the page where the picture is.

Without doing any more, it is obvious that FLASH10, almost works properly, the first time you attempt to access any page that has FLASH content (I use FlashBlock, which seems to overcome the problem, until you try to play something). The second attempt will freeze the system. That may also include accessing a page that has more than one FLASH movie on it, that is not blocked by something like FlashBlock.

My system is an Asus M3A78-EM motherboard, with a quad core AMD Phenom processor, using eCS 2.0 RC7, SNAP 3.1.8, and UniAud 1.9.16. The picture, that worked, does not have sound, it is just a picture.

A worthy attempt, but I don't think it is appropriate to post something like that with instructions to NOT feedback problems (although I can understand why they wouldn't want feedback, since it doesn't really work anywhere near as good as what is implied in the README). Oh well, they will get feedback anyway, if they dare to read these comments.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2009.10.10, 00:18:13
... My SSS just ran out. Can someone field me this?
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.10, 02:29:32
Hi Doug

I just tried it - thanks for pointing it out.

My experience is slightly different.

I agree that the WarpIn installer is sort of messed up (I never realized, that V:\FIREFOX\FIREFOX!L.EXE was a directory, that would need to be created to install plugins), but, if you override the defaults, and tell it to put stuff where it should be, it seems to install okay. It definitely should NOT simply assume that the boot drive contains a PROGRAMS directory. In fact, the eCS installer needs to be fixed, so it doesn't put it there either. I spend a LOT of time moving that stuff elsewhere (where I told it to put it in the first place). I also only use SET MOZILLA_HOME= which implies that it contains the plugins directory.

..... snip


Could your rather strange directory name, V:\FIREFOX\FIREFOX!L.EXE, be the result of use of LIBPATHSTRICT somewhere in the way you start the browser? - the readme says soemthing about that causing problems. I ask because I did not see this particular silliness myself.

I guess maybe the Warpin Installer script involved may not check your MOZILLA_HOME to see if Plugins is located within that directory tree and that could have caused the problem.

Hopefully the next release of Flash10 will have most/all of the current installer "wrinkles" ironed out and actually work without crashing the system.


On a sidenote: The eCS Installer honours the path you supply for PROGRAMS - you get that directory listed in the config.sys file. The trouble is that all the apps installed at that time do not - they all have "hard coded" install paths!

I have had several years arguments with various eCS people about this. My view is probably the same as yours - Why the F**k ask a user to set the damned environment variable if all the bl**ding software then gets installed somewhere else? - excuse my frustrated-with-this-argument English.

I did however get Alex Taylor to see my point but my understanding at the moment is that some of the Installer will need rewriting to get that working. No timescale given; maybe eCS2.1 if we are lucky...


Regards

Pete
 
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2009.10.10, 05:42:26
2.1 is a joke right? How long did it take to go from 1.2mr to 2.0 RC7? Five years? We don't even have a GA release yet. Waiting until another 5 years or so to fix an installer issue is frigging retarded.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: DougB on 2009.10.10, 07:00:10
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Could your rather strange directory name, V:\FIREFOX\FIREFOX!L.EXE, be the result of use of LIBPATHSTRICT somewhere in the way you start the browser?

No, because I don't use the "L" in the file name. I didn't notice that earlier, it is obviously another screw up (or assumption) in the installer, or, the eCS installer put that into the INI file, incorrectly. I never use the "L" with Firefox, only with any other Mozilla derivatives (which I rarely use). I just checked my INI file, and the "L" is not in that either. I have no idea where that may have come from.

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I guess maybe the Warpin Installer script involved may not check your MOZILLA_HOME to see if Plugins is located within that directory tree and that could have caused the problem.

Apparently, that is correct. That does need to be fixed. At least the installer allows the proper locations to be entered, but someone who doesn't know how that all works, is going to have a problem.

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On a sidenote: The eCS Installer honours the path you supply for PROGRAMS - you get that directory listed in the config.sys file. The trouble is that all the apps installed at that time do not - they all have "hard coded" install paths!

The installer does NOT honour the path given for PROGRAMS. Neither does anything else (that I have seen), unless you change the default path in the WarpIn installer (which only applies after install, and only to programs installed by WarpIn). The path is placed in CONFIG.SYS, but I have yet to see anything honour it. That is a problem that really does need to be fixed. Of course, it also means that a user will need to be able to do a complete disk setup, so that the desired target will actually exist, before it attempts to use it.

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I did however get Alex Taylor to see my point but my understanding at the moment is that some of the Installer will need rewriting to get that working.

I think that Alex has too many things to do, and no control, at all, over what the overall installer actually does. I can understand needing a rewrite, to make that work, but I do wish they would quit rewriting the parts that were working. RC7 is a major step backward, in more than one way. Unfortunately, it seems that there are either not enough people working on that stuff, or, there are too many. It also seems that a certain amount of quality control would help, but that is probably covered by those who try it out.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2009.10.10, 07:38:18
If I am not mistaken, the !L is required to do the RUN!.exe magic to allow two different mozilla products to have DLLs in memory at once.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: CDRWSel on 2009.10.10, 11:40:03
Not working here, always crashes as soon a link has flash in it.    :( 
(regedit checked anf ok - only one instance of firefox running)
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: buca on 2009.10.10, 11:43:18
Hi, I tied this preview and installs fine, no problems for me.

I saw this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbLHqxG3QNg and compare with Windows and in our ECS/OS2 the video "shows flasing green color frames" than in windows don't shows.

May be a graphic driver issue or may be a flash issue?

Others works very well.

Dani

UPDATE!!! -------------

Sorry, I had a 64K colors configuration, changed it to a 16M colors works perfectly.

Thank to all

UPDATE AGAIN!!!

Testing so much. Same problem than CDRWSel says. Ending saw a falsh clicking on a link firefox hangs.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: DougB on 2009.10.10, 18:09:37
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If I am not mistaken, the !L is required to do the RUN!.exe magic to allow two different mozilla products to have DLLs in memory at once.

Not quite right. The "L" is required on all but one of the Mozilla derivatives. Apparently, a flaw in the logic allows that to work. Since there are a few potential reasons to not use LIBPATHSTRICT with Firefox, it is best to leave that one without the "L", and add it any others that you may wish to run concurrently. The details are in the docs for RUN!
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: DougB on 2009.10.11, 19:26:22
I tried FLASH10 on my Thinkpad T43 (1871-W8M). It works great, with no problems so far (except the known installer problems). This machine is running eCS 2.0 Silver, with ACPI 3.16 (/SMP /APIC - no, it is not a multiple processor, but it works best with these parameters), FF 3.5.2, and UniAud 1.9.16.

I need to go back, and try FLASH10 in my quad core machine, using only one processor.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: DougB on 2009.10.11, 19:51:17
ALLRIGHT! Yes, FLASH10 works pretty good, with all but one CPU turned off. It did just quit  while playing some YouTube  movies, but it didn't kill the system. So, the major problems seem to be SMP related.

Anybody know what needs to be done to set FLASH10 to run in only one CPU, using EXECMODE.EXE? I just used MPCPUMON.EXE to turn off all but one CPU, but that isn't ideal.

Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: buca on 2009.10.11, 20:33:24
Yes, I tried the DougB suggestion and the links works this time.

Good! at this time. Waiting for the release.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Joachim on 2009.10.12, 16:06:42

The Warpin Installer should check where PROGRAMS is set - I was not impressed to find the software wanted to install to the Non-Existent [BootDrive]:\PROGRAMS location. Checking the Warpin Script used for the installation confirms that this package expects to find PROGRAMS on the BootDrive: TARGET="?:\PROGRAMS\FLASH10"

The package was refreshed today, if you (re)download it will now respect the PROGRAMS environment variable.
It also fixes the problem of the incorrect target directory, referencing the browser executable.

Result: Browser started and hung immediately, the mouse pointer disappeared and keyboard input was blocked. My only recourse was to press the system box Reset Button.

This is almost certainly the LIBPATHSTRICT problem. Try to start the browser directly, without the 'L' option from Rich Walsh.
This is a known restriction which will be lifted in a future release.

Regards,

Joachim Benjamins
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.12, 18:44:14
Hi Joachim



Result: Browser started and hung immediately, the mouse pointer disappeared and keyboard input was blocked. My only recourse was to press the system box Reset Button.

This is almost certainly the LIBPATHSTRICT problem. Try to start the browser directly, without the 'L' option from Rich Walsh.
This is a known restriction which will be lifted in a future release.

Regards,

Joachim Benjamins

The above is incorrect as LIBPATHSTRICT is *not* in use as it is *not* needed to run Seamonkey browser/mail/news/Whatever all at the same time.

The problem seems to be the amount of "debris" that accompanies a Flash7 installation. Removing *all* Flash7 related files from the plugins directory and reinstalling resolved that - see my 2nd post in this thread.

However, Flash10 did not then work very well, crashing browser and/or operating system after a short period of playback - between seconds and a few minutes - again, see my 2nd post in this thread.


I'll give the updated package a try and see if it now installs OK and if that improves playback so that the system does not crash at least.

Regards

Pete



Note: Only restored missing quote tag -Rob
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: DougB on 2009.10.12, 19:37:09
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The package was refreshed today, if you (re)download it will now respect the PROGRAMS environment variable.
It also fixes the problem of the incorrect target directory, referencing the browser executable.

Well, it does follow the PROGRAMS environment variable, but it still doesn't follow the Mozilla scheme to find Plugins. If I remember correctly, it looks for:
SET MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=
SET MOZILLA_HOME=
and finally:
the firefox install directory. IN THAT ORDER. The LAST place that you want to put something like Pugins, is in the firefox install directory. They tend to get lost, when the user removes the install directory, to do an update. If there are Plugins in there, it is necessary to move them elsewhere, remove the install directory, install the new firefox, then put the Plugins back. The FLASH10 installer needs to look in the MOZILLA_HOME directory, and use that, before it goes putting Plugins into the install directory.

I expect that SeaMonkey looks in the same places, and has the same problems with having Plugins put into the install directory.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.13, 00:04:53
Hi Joachim

I installed the later package and started the browser - then pressed the Reset button on the system box; No change there.

After the reboot the browser did start - is there any reason installing Flash10 requires a reboot? - without problems.

Flash10 works much the same as before ie very prone to crashing browser and/or system during playback.

Any idea if Flash10 is in any way optimised to use any particular uniaud build?

Regards

Pete
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.13, 00:58:34
Hi Joachim

Just to add that after a Flash10 induced system crash and reboot I could not start my browser without the system crashing - repeatable for 3 attempts.

After the 5th reboot I uninstalled Flash10 - No problem then starting the browser.

Hopefully the next release will work a lot better  :-)

Pete
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: jep on 2009.10.13, 08:07:08
Hi,

do you use Firefox 3.x?
    then see below

did you select to restore the session and the opened tabs/windows as you restarted?
If so, one (or more pages) contain the problematic flash animation.

//Jan-Erik

Flash 10 work great on some sites for me, but use a lot of CPU on others, but I have reports from colleagues here at work that that is the case in Win as well. The great part is that firefox is now easier to kill in such situations and the option to "restore session" help a lot when one want to explore new sites.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.13, 16:57:51
hi jep

The browser crashed during startup - it does not get to display the  "restore session" page.

No, I'm using Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090924 SeaMonkey/2.0pre

Regards

Pete
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: djcaetano on 2009.10.13, 21:15:36
   
  I know it is stated that Flash10 will work only on eCS 1.2 or up, but anyone knows what
prevents it from running on OS/2 4.52 with latest fixes?
  I tried to install it here (since I was not able to install eCS 2.0RC in this machine yet)
and Mozilla simply ignores it (I placed all files on \plugins directory). "about:plugins"
just do not show any flash entry.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: lpino on 2009.10.13, 22:01:04
   
  I know it is stated that Flash10 will work only on eCS 1.2 or up, but anyone knows what
prevents it from running on OS/2 4.52 with latest fixes?
  I tried to install it here (since I was not able to install eCS 2.0RC in this machine yet)
and Mozilla simply ignores it (I placed all files on \plugins directory). "about:plugins"
just do not show any flash entry.

ODIN maybe?
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: djcaetano on 2009.10.13, 22:39:58
ODIN maybe?

   Hi Leonardo!

   I noticed that ODIN DLLs are placed at \FLASH10 directory; I added this
directory to libpath (using BEGINLIBPATH directive, on the CMD I use
to run FireFox). Nothing. I even tried do copy all DLLs of \FLASH10
directory to \plugins directory. No luck.

   Should I test adding \FLASH10 on my regular config.sys' LIBPATH?

   Regards!
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: ivan on 2009.10.13, 22:54:33
So this is a bastardised windows plugin with all the attendant problems this will bring.

I question this apparent obsession with converting  windows utilities for use with OS/2 when Innotek is no longer doing the conversion.  Why not use the Linux equivalent since Paul has shown that various Linux utilities can work very well with OS/2.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: fbakan on 2009.10.13, 23:55:38
   
  I know it is stated that Flash10 will work only on eCS 1.2 or up, but anyone knows what
prevents it from running on OS/2 4.52 with latest fixes?
Marketing decision. Development costs money.
Perhaps Mensys makes the final version available to other users too, where upgrading ecs 1.1
to 1.2 or 2.0 makes no sense, like in my case on my old but gold t23 hardware.
I would appreciate this and would be willing to spend some money for flash 10.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.14, 03:45:45
Hi djcaetano

The install script checks for "OS2_4x" and I cannot see any other OS check in the script so it should install OK - Did it?

Could this be something to do with the LIBPATHSTRICT problem mentioned in the readme? - Does your CMD file set that variable?

No entries in config.sys are required; the flash10 plugin finds the support files via Registry entries created during the install.

Regards

Pete

Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2009.10.14, 04:03:44
Hi Ivan

So this is a bastardised windows plugin with all the attendant problems this will bring.

I question this apparent obsession with converting  windows utilities for use with OS/2 when Innotek is no longer doing the conversion.  Why not use the Linux equivalent since Paul has shown that various Linux utilities can work very well with OS/2.



Yes, it is "a bastardised windows plugin" - but there is no source code available to work with in order to create a real OS/2 version; unless you are thinking of gnash which is not really upto Flash7 standard.

If I remember the original posts about the possibility of a Flash9/10 plugin correctly Roderick (Mensys) said something about Adobe granting a licence to modify the win32 Flash9/10 plugin to work with OS/2 systems. I doubt Adobe would want to give the source code out so that a real OS/2 version could be built; maybe that will change sometime in the future - but don't hold your breath  :-)

That basically left Mensys with no option but to go the "bastardised windows plugin" route.

I'm not really sure about your " question this apparent obsession with converting  windows utilities for use with OS/2" statement... Any particular packages in mind? I ask because I seem to have spent a bit of time over the past few years testing stuff ported from linux to OS/2 - CUPS, Uniaud, mplayer, smplayer, and a few other things that escape me currently - but this Flash10 plugin is the 1st "win32 port" I've tested for awhile now.


Regards

Pete
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2009.10.14, 04:17:08
So this is a bastardised windows plugin with all the attendant problems this will bring.

I question this apparent obsession with converting  windows utilities for use with OS/2 when Innotek is no longer doing the conversion.  Why not use the Linux equivalent since Paul has shown that various Linux utilities can work very well with OS/2.


In this case, Flash is proprietary code - so there is no open-source to port, so a odin type wrapper is really the best solution...
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: ivan on 2009.10.14, 09:47:18
Thanks for that bit of information Paul.  I've never looked at Flash very much - in fact I tend to steer clear of sites with Flash in them.  I also use flash block which means pages load faster.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: RobertM on 2009.10.14, 20:11:42

I'm not really sure about your " question this apparent obsession with converting  windows utilities for use with OS/2" statement... Any particular packages in mind? I ask because I seem to have spent a bit of time over the past few years testing stuff ported from linux to OS/2 - CUPS, Uniaud, mplayer, smplayer, and a few other things that escape me currently - but this Flash10 plugin is the 1st "win32 port" I've tested for awhile now.


Regards

Pete


Not commenting on the merits or drawbacks of the Win32 Odinized code, but another biggie that comes to mind is Firefox and/or OpenOffice (if memory serves as to which sources are being used for them).


Now commenting on the merits and drawbacks - at least to some extent. I'd prefer an Odinized app/plugin over none. Currently, that is the only or best (business sense, programming resources, etc) method for some apps. If I had a choice, which would I pick? Doesn't matter... I dont have that choice.  ;D  ;)

Best,
Rob
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Saijin_Naib on 2009.10.14, 20:36:57
WINE works great so I don't see the problem with wrappers. So long as they work well there shouldn't be an issue. It comes down to having ideological issues with it being a Windows app which are always so inferior to OS/2 apps  ::)
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: RobertM on 2009.10.15, 14:31:17
WINE works great so I don't see the problem with wrappers. So long as they work well there shouldn't be an issue. It comes down to having ideological issues with it being a Windows app which are always so inferior to OS/2 apps  ::)

Sadly, WINE is mostly irrelevant to this. As for Windows apps "which are always so inferior to OS/2 apps" I can only point out Describe, which had multithreaded almost everything on a scale that is still not duplicatable on Windows (or at least still hasn't been) even though hardware power has increased so dramatically, and most machines sold nowadays are dual core.

I for one miss autosaves of large documents not slowing my machine to a crawl, background printing that is truly background printing (without the need for the best, top of the line hardware) and of course the object oriented nature of Describe. For that, I gladly dealt with it's "ugly" interface.

The same goes for FaxWorks Pro - and any OS/2 app that is REXX enabled and aware. So, in that respect, yes they are better. In other respects (such as the lack of specific software), OS/2 has a way to go. A fully implemented WINE/ODIN would be nice to fill that gap. In the meantime, I'll be happy with the venerable VirtualPC or VirtualBox.

Best,
Rob
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: djcaetano on 2009.10.16, 15:45:25

  Anyway, ODINized or not,

  I was not able to make FireFox 3.5 to "see" Flash 10 plugin. I set everything I could,
I uninstalled and reinstalled it... (no errors during install) but Firefox simply do not
show it on "about:plugins" and whenever I open a flash page, the browser says me
to download a plugin.
  (Just to keep it fresh: this test was made on OS/2 4.52 with all official and public fixes
applied).

  So, anyone using OS/2 4.52 and with software subscription, don't even bother
downloading Flash 10.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: diver on 2009.10.16, 20:42:40
it can't work on anything beside ecs, as it ask for the registry key via a api. so no registry key no flash.

to be honest it's possible to overcome this, but no i won't telly anyone how to do it.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: djcaetano on 2009.10.17, 06:30:15
it can't work on anything beside ecs, as it ask for the registry key via a api. so no registry key no flash.
to be honest it's possible to overcome this, but no i won't telly anyone how to do it.

  Cool. Since my official and registered eCS refuses to install on my machine,
no Flash for me. Really nice. Hehe. :P

  I do understand the reasons why Serenity add this type of check, but it is
a bit frustrating when you just can't install the required OS. :P
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: IBManners on 2009.10.17, 10:34:35
I'm also feeling a bit p!ssed about this.

I do my best to support eComStation, its intergration, upgrades, and other apps from various people only to find out that if I want to use some of what I do my best to support, that I'll have to do something like install eComStation, then get rid of everything I don't really want or need.

I'm happy with my current system, it works fine, its setup the way I want it including all the latest drivers etc so it seems stupid to have to 'upgrade' to eCS.

All rather pointless as I'll figure out what I need from eCS installed under VPC and then add the required changes to my working OS/2 anyway, all this does is create more work for people like myself when I have better things to do.

Cheers
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: osw on 2009.10.17, 12:38:06
Hi!
Perhaps it will be interesting for you.
Once I saw "somewhere on os/2 related site" (sorry, I can't recall where exactly it was) an article about adding key ecs components and features to existing acp2 - what was supposed to give ecs - server like version
I had not read it actually as I was happy with my acp2 then - later I switched to ecs 2 and never have really tried this way of conversion but like I said first - perhaps it will be somewhat interesting or usefull for you.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Robert Deed on 2010.09.12, 07:27:19
it can't work on anything beside ecs, as it ask for the registry key via a api. so no registry key no flash.
to be honest it's possible to overcome this, but no i won't telly anyone how to do it.

  Cool. Since my official and registered eCS refuses to install on my machine,
no Flash for me. Really nice. Hehe. :P

  I do understand the reasons why Serenity add this type of check, but it is
a bit frustrating when you just can't install the required OS. :P

Lol.. way to bump an old post..  Flash 10 can't run on my legit ecs 2.0 :p  Says I don't have a registered copy.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2010.09.18, 13:48:12
Hi Robert

That is something to do with flash10 preview checking to see if it is running on eCS1.1/1.2 - or an eCS2.0RC? build. You need to search the ecs newsgroups for the workaround, something to do with needing an ecsreg?.txt file from ecs1.1/1.2.

Regards

Pete

 
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Rob Claessen on 2010.09.18, 13:55:55
Hi,

Cris posted this workaround as a tip in his blog : http://ecstnt.blogspot.com/2010/08/flash-10-on-ecs-20.html
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Robert Deed on 2010.09.22, 00:54:50
Hi,

Cris posted this workaround as a tip in his blog : http://ecstnt.blogspot.com/2010/08/flash-10-on-ecs-20.html

I'll just wait for an updated release.
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2011.04.09, 21:10:10
Hi

Having just installed eCS2.0GA on the Wifes system I have just run into the problem of Flash10 not finding the correct ecsreg.ini file.

I found this (older) thread and visited http://ecstnt.blogspot.com/2010/08/flash-10-on-ecs-20.html

Looks simple enough so I made a copy of the existing ecsreg.ini and copied the ecsreg.ini from an eCS2.0RC6a installation that Flash10 works fine on to the eCS2.0GA installation.

I then fired up Seamonkey and discovered that changing the ecsreg.ini file achieves nothing... Flash10 is still stating that the copy of eCS is unregistered.

No, I do not have eCS Subscription - and no intention of getting 1 -  so cannot download a later build of Flash10 that has this problem resolved.

Any other possible cures for this problem?

Regards

Pete
Title: Re: Flash10 Preview not working here
Post by: Pete on 2011.04.09, 21:36:22
Hi All

The problem went away when I copied ecsreg11.ini from ecs2.0RC6a to eCS2.0GA

Looks like both ecsreg*.ini files are required from eCS1.2 for this early build of Flash10 to work on eCS2.0GA
.

Regards

Pete