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Title: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.12, 00:56:29
Well, what do you think renaming my FFMPEGCA GUI to "FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool" ?

Please make suggestions ...

Current build : V1.0.1
Link to the FFMPEGCA PDF file added on my web site (lucide or adobe)

Cheers
Remy    
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: IBManners on 2011.01.12, 16:40:42
Quote
Well, what do you think renaming my FFMPEGCA GUI to "FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool" ?

It is a bit more descriptive than 'FFMPEGCA GUI', so I'd go with anything thats more descriptive !

Cheers

Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.13, 22:15:11
Lets try :
"FFMPEGCA - Conversion and Audio Editings Video"

Et could be HAVMCT !
"High Audio Video Manipulation and Conversion Tool"

May be you can open a vote for the best name describing all nice options

Cheers
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: RobertM on 2011.01.14, 01:18:20
We can add a poll, perhaps after a few more suggestions?
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.14, 01:46:39
How to ?
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: abwillis on 2011.01.14, 18:09:30
If we are looking for descriptive names...
We could call it "Killer App" as it is a remarkable application.
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.14, 18:54:01
 ;) thanks

I found a better name. I'm doing some (c) verification before writting it here for your coments
but, it should contain "conversion and authoring"...

Cheers
Remy 
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.15, 17:32:20
Here it is:

    AVXCAT  for  Audio Video eXtended Conversion and Authoring Tool   (c)
 
Do not think it could have something to do with a "cat"   ;D

Do you like it ?
I'm preparing docs and FFMPEGCA to switch name...

Cheers
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: Ben on 2011.01.15, 19:16:32
How about "AV Tool/2"
or
                "MM Tool/2"
or
                "MMM"  as in Multi Media Manipulator
or
                "Show & Tell Tool"
or
                "Sound & Vision Master"
or
                "Cut & Convert/2"
or
                 "AV Director/2"
or
                "I'll Call It Whatever The Fook I Want To Call It Because I Created This Gaddam Audio & Video Manipulator/2"

Just a few suggestions for you to work upon... in case you haven't settled yet. 8)
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.15, 19:31:35
Thanks Ben for your suggestion...

I checked under internet for any name problems
suggestion 1, 2, 5,6 and 7 names already exist or very similar...
I'm checking other proposition...
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.16, 01:38:38
3/ MMM    (I didn't find it nice)
4/ Tell !     

Under the tool, I could use long name axcept one major field of the programs where it limits the size to a maximum 8 characters.

It looks like I'm back on AVXCAT
(I found it very easy to remember and starting with A, it will be at top of ordered tools list) 
     
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: Ben on 2011.01.16, 18:44:00
AVXCAT is a bit cryptic and tends to look a little be like a cached file name auto-generated by a program... whereas this thread implies a leaning towards something more user-friendly. However, I'm not unaware of the fact that most of the good names have been taken.

My personal favourite so far, is my last offer, (less the joke part), of "Audio Video Manipulator/2", which is self-defining.

If , (and that's a big "if"   :D ),  you want a few more options, I'll run another list when I get a moment.
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.16, 20:48:17
"Audio Video Manipulator/2" is very descriptive but it exceeds 8 character length...
Once contracted, it does AVM/2
It is like Audio Video eXtended Conversion and Euthoring Tool (very descritive) and after contraction it does : AVXCAT (this is how I created this name)

I've got a few email about AVXCAT with comments : "Seems not bad"
I asked around me and specially to women which find it nice. Use of duplicate characters into the name like "MM" was not well "seen" and one told me it is not as easy to pronounce...

Well, at this time, I only have one negative post about the name here. I would be interested with more comments from other users too and one important point is easy to remember. Thanks

Cheers
Remy      

  
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: Ben on 2011.01.16, 21:42:17
From your reply It seems like you have found your name.  :D

However, just FYI, "MMM" is pronounced as it is spelled... like something that tastes delicious! Like "hot chocolate and Drambuie" on a cold night after a meal of garlic-buttered, shrimp surrounded by a circlet of browned rice and finished off with a slab of Black Forest cake, drenched in an almond-rum sauce with a pretty and shapely, well-dressed, lady, (with long hair and lovely lashes), who simply cannot stop smiling at you!  MMMmmmmm!  :D
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.17, 03:05:51
MMMmmmmm!   ;)
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: melf on 2011.01.17, 12:36:37
Hi Remy,
I find the X in AVXCAT is a little disturbing. If the X was gone a near associated word for me is  "awesome cat", which very much describe your software! (and you could make a nice logo of it!) But then there is the V instead of W - and how to fix that?

Maybe A Warped Conversion and Authoring Tool
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.17, 18:27:16
Hi Mike,

W !

Awesome World Conversion and Authoring Tool

but, once X is changed to x, the rendering seems better

AVxCAT  



I jus saw that AWCAT is used by an ADHESIVE TEXTILES firm...
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: melf on 2011.01.17, 21:08:50
 ;D I like your interpretation! Too bad it's already taken.. yep AVxCAT  is better!
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.17, 22:51:49
Ok thanks,

I tried many other option but all nice an easy to remember are already taken !
Now with the lower case "x", it looks to be better and I decided to rename FFMPEGCA to AVxCAT  (c)
The program object will have its name on 2 lines:
                       AVxCAT
    A/V Conversion & Authoring Tool           

But its full name would be:  Audio/Video eXtended Conversion and Authoring Tool
Thanks
Cheers
Remy     
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: onlineuser2 on 2011.01.19, 11:36:01
Hi Remy,

Why not TOOLS instead of TOOL?

But consider that my poor English is not enough to understand the meaning flavours of the word/words.

Onlineuser2
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: warpcafe on 2011.01.19, 15:43:43
Hi,

sorry for being late. FWIW, why not...
"Audio and Video oriented Conversion and Authoring Desktop(-tools) for OS/2" ?

-> This abbreviates to...:   AVOCADO.

:)
Thomas
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.20, 02:53:31
Hi,

Why Tool instead of Tools ? (you use only one tool despite it calls more tools)

AVOCADO !  ( It sound nice and after a verification on internet, I found it is very much used !)

I already did changes into the program and switched to AVxCAT now.
It should be ready in a few days after more test. Currently, I did a few correction and added some small enhancements.

Here is what's comming next:

1.0.2 - FFMPEGCA v1.0.2 name changed to "AVxCAT v1.0.0"
      - New updated WPI package which creates now an AVxCAT folder on the desktop
        including the program and a doc folder. Last install step allow you to get required and/or
        optionnal products used by AVxCAT
      - AVxCAT uses a unique pipe name at start time based on "seconds"
        (allow multiple instance be started and processing files)      
      - Added "Add files" and "Add directories" into RMB too
      - Added --jsync start parameter to allow default -map syncro change using video join option
      - Changed initial start preset path detection
      - Added --apre --spre Uparms detection and process.
      - Added limited FFplay.exe support
      - Updated docs    
      - Corrected join size popupmsg and changed its color to a lighter yellow
      - Corrected a bug on AAC selection when using Dave's FFMPEG
      - Added support for AMR (only mono, 8000Hz and below 13kbps valid) for futur ffmpeg !
      - Corrected some automatic option agains FFMPEG version
      - Corrected a possible wrong ffmpeg version identification
      - Corrected a possible ffmpeg immediate stop  when extra log is always enabled
      - Other minor corrections          

During migration, just rename ffmpegca.ini to avxcat.ini... That's all
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.22, 12:04:48
My site updated -> Now AVxCAT available
Best regards
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: abwillis on 2011.01.23, 22:31:03
My site updated -> Now AVxCAT available
Best regards
Remy

Now that the name no longer points to it being a gui for ffmpeg... maybe adding some other options such as using Timidity to convert midi files (to get from midi to mp3 may require 2 conversions but would be handy to have AVxCAT handle that) and maybe something like voix (VoiX voice suppressor - currently in hobbes incoming).

Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.24, 00:15:26
I'll check both tools possibilities.... And tell you next

Best regards
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.24, 09:31:29
A quick voix test...

(i)Lowpass: 200.0 Hz, Highpass: 8000.0 Hz
(!)Press [Ctrl+C] to exit
(i)Process: .....25%.....50%.....75%.....100%
Killed by SIGFPE
pid=0x0049 ppid=0x0044 tid=0x0001 slot=0x0086 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
C:\PROGRAMS\VOIX_1_0_0_BETA5\VOIX.EXE
VOIX 0:00001da7
cs:eip=005b:00011da7      ss:esp=0053:02037b90      ebp=0212ff50
 ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00010297
eax=00000000 ebx=00000587 ecx=00000002 edx=00004586 edi=02037c08 esi=02057c08
Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.

Hum !
May be it uses some SSE function not fully implemented into SMP kernel...  ::)   
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: abwillis on 2011.01.24, 16:37:56
A quick voix test...

(i)Lowpass: 200.0 Hz, Highpass: 8000.0 Hz
(!)Press [Ctrl+C] to exit
(i)Process: .....25%.....50%.....75%.....100%
Killed by SIGFPE

Voix is apparently doing some floating point calls... There is a bug in some OS/2 subsystem(s) (I don't recall which) that causes some floating point errors (as I recall, it was due to the compiler that was used for some parts of OS/2).  Floating point calls need to be wrapped... This was a problem for Cairo on OS/2 and I also found that it had to be done in QT4 and I ended up adding those updates to QT3 when I was building Typefaster.  I don't know of anything that a user can do to fix the issue, only a code change to my knowledge will fix it.
Here is a blurb on it:
http://svn.netlabs.org/qt4/ticket/133
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: abwillis on 2011.01.24, 17:44:55
That link didn't talk as much about it as I thought... there is another link out there but I don't recall where.  Anyhow, I tried to apply the fix to voix and sent a copy to you.  As it did not have a problem here initially I can't tell for certain if I applied it correctly but it didn't cause it to start crashing here at least.
Here is the comments from the Cairo code.
/* Some OS/2 PM API calls modify the FPU Control Word,
* but forget to restore it.
*
* This can result in XCPT_FLOAT_INVALID_OPCODE exceptions,
* so to be sure, we disable Invalid Opcode FPU exception
* before using FPU stuffs.
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: abwillis on 2011.01.24, 18:06:42
Here is a link to a better description of what I think is happening:
http://svn.netlabs.org/qt4/ticket/105
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.26, 01:15:39
Hi !

I'm testing timidity to create a wav file. It works but the created file is uncompatible with ffmpeg !
Any idea about why and what happens ?

Command used:
'C:\PROGRAMS\TiMidity\timidity.exe -Ow1SM -s 44100 "C:\programs\TiMidity\midi\malaguena.mid" -o "M:\test.raw.wav" '

File can be played under OS/2

and then:
ffmpeg.exe -y -i "M:\test.raw.wav" -ar 44100 -acodec adpcm_ima_wav -vol 256 -ac 2 "C:\home\default\.avxcat\malaguena.wav"

Of course, I tried a reduced syntax to:
'C:\PROGRAMS\TiMidity\timidity.exe -Ow "C:\programs\TiMidity\midi\malaguena.mid" -o  "M:\test.wav" '
But I've got the same result.


ffmpeg result:
  ...
  Input #0, wav, from 'M:\test.raw.wav':
  Duration: 00:03:08.84, bitrate: 705 kb/s
    Stream #0.0: Audio: pcm_s16le, 44100 Hz, 1 channels, s16, 705 kb/s
C:\programs\TiMidity\midi\malaguena.mid: Invalid data found when processing input

Thanks
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: abwillis on 2011.01.27, 01:20:58
I have only done one file but I converted the midi file to wav with timidity and then used AVxCAT to convert to MP3. 
I used:
timidity -Ow -o output.wav input.mid

Are you able to play the midi with Timidity?  I had to install the pat files.
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.27, 09:46:37
I did new test this morning after my pc was rebooted and the conversion is ok now.
May be I did something wrong  ::)

Currently, I added timidity support into my local test build.
To make it easy to use, I load a config file under avxcat dir with timidity parms (except those required)
This may allow add parms to load an external timidity config file or add "s 44100" etc...
The single (I hope) command used may allow to convert midi into any other audio codec with ffmpeg help    
It looks promising but I have to resolve one "needed missing information" I asked timidity author about howto get it...   (midi estimated time without any conversion process)

Those been interested buy a test build as soon it is ready could send me an email with subject (avxcat - timidity test).

Kind regards
Remy      
    
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.01.28, 00:37:45
Ok, timidity problem resolved.
My first tests work very well. Nice

MID => any supported ffmpeg audio/video codec
 
If some of you are interested into testing this build, i can send the updated parts.
Please send me a "PM" personnal message under OS2WORLD and I'll send you the exe file + additional timidity.cat which may be used by avxcat only

Kind regards,
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: alstaszko on 2011.02.03, 22:28:18
AVxCAT:

"required build of ID3V3 (by Andy Willis)"

from

http://remydodin.levillage.org/avxcat.html

Where do I get it?

Andy Staszko


Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: RobertM on 2011.02.03, 22:44:43
AVxCAT:

"required build of ID3V3 (by Andy Willis)"

from

http://remydodin.levillage.org/avxcat.html

Where do I get it?

Andy Staszko

Hi Andy,

Right here:
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/apps/mmedia/sound/util/id3v2-0.1.12-os2.zip

Oddly, Hobbes' search tool does not seem to show it on the quick search.

Best,
Robert
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.03, 22:47:18
you have a direct llink on my web site " D3V2 0.1.12 (NEW) or up program for id3 V2 tags (required) "
It is hyperlink ( click on it )

Or,

At end of AVxCAT installation, a web page opens with all hyperlink to any required or optional products as well as gcc dll if needed !
http:// remydodin.levillage.org/avxcat_other.html

Regards,
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: alstaszko on 2011.02.04, 10:45:25
I just did.

No "hand" appears over any the the text relating to the version
produced by Andy Willis.

Andy Staszko
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.04, 11:56:52
I use firefox and have the "hand" when going over the link !
Each link is color identified too (blue)

Best regards,
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: alstaszko on 2011.02.04, 13:12:17
The text that refers to the ID3V3 tagging utility:

"Note: Téléchargez la nouvelle version de ID3V2 (par Andy Willis) - Download the new required build of ID3V3 (by Andy Willis)"

is not a link.

I am using Firefox 3.6.13

I have all the rest from following the links for "Required programs (mandatory)"

Andy Staszko
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.04, 14:28:25
Hi, this is a "note" followed by major links !!
  
Under this text you'll have :

Historique des modifications - ChangeLog: changelog.Readme

Programmes requis - Required programs (mandatory)
# eCS V2 (suggested level)
# Warpin 1.0.19 (install tool)
# FFMPEG (required)
# Priority from FM2UTILS package (strongly suggested)
# ogginfo, ogg.dll, vorbis.dll from package (required)
# ID3V2 0.1.12 (NEW) or up program for id3 V2 tags (required)     <<<<< Here it is !
# rxu.dll from package (required)
# Some other dll's already included into the WPI package

So, you did right
(I updated my site "note" to point to below text link)
Cheers
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: alstaszko on 2011.02.04, 15:12:19
"Here it is !" is referring to ID3V2.

The note refers to ID3V3.

Perhaps the note is incorrect with respect to the version number.

Andy Staszko.
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.04, 17:18:37
"Here it is !" is referring to ID3V2.

The note refers to ID3V3.

Perhaps the note is incorrect with respect to the version number.

Andy Staszko.


Hi Yes !

I apology, it is a typo error and should be ID3V2 like in the french text... I corrected it now.
Thanks having carefully read information (better as I wrote it)

Cheers
Remy
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: alstaszko on 2011.02.04, 17:24:53
Remy,

How do we go about reporting bugs in the GUI?

Here's just a couple:
1. Output target directory is severly limited in text length.
2. In the dialog for adding files (video so far - I haven't used the audio yet),
    there is no mechanism for multiple selection or selecting all for addition.

Andy Staszko
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.04, 21:34:17
Remy,

How do we go about reporting bugs in the GUI?

Here's just a couple:
1. Output target directory is severly limited in text length.
2. In the dialog for adding files (video so far - I haven't used the audio yet),
    there is no mechanism for multiple selection or selecting all for addition.

Andy Staszko

To report bugs:
Use help -> write to the author option

1/ Righ, it has a default value of 32. I just changed it. Thanks.
2/ Multiple selection was always there since the first ffmpegca build !
    I always use it. You can use keyboard method or slide the mouse with the button pressed above files to select .... (drag/drop between internal filemanager and process list works too)
    The only case where multiple selection is not allowed is when adding directories

Could you please test this build (target length path is corrected)
http:// remydodin.levillage.org/outils /AVXCAT_S-1_1_1.wpi

note: remove blanks in the linkname
  
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: alstaszko on 2011.02.05, 00:31:53
Your'e right about multiple selections using keyboard, but not with the mouse.

I'll give the new one a try tomorrow - it's a bit late right now.

Andy Staszko
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.05, 02:13:01
The selection seen in the picture was done using the mouse.

I use most mouse then keyboard  ;)

Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: alstaszko on 2011.02.05, 09:19:47
all mouse selection methods now work.

The target directory works fine.

Just one thing:
after files have been selected and are in the selection window, it would be
nice it they could be moved around (up/down either singly or multiple) to
change the "join" order.

Andy Staszko
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.05, 11:49:37
"it would be nice it they could be moved around (up/down either singly or multiple) to
change the "join" order."

I already think about it but this needs a lots of other work due it is not only move up/down the visible entry but any user added options as well as added metadatas etc...  which are specific to each files have to be moved with them. I expect having it ready into a future build

Currently, just add files to be joined in the order you would have them in the process list.
Cheers
Remy
   
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.05, 22:00:39
I have only done one file but I converted the midi file to wav with timidity and then used AVxCAT to convert to MP3. 
I used:
timidity -Ow -o output.wav input.mid

Are you able to play the midi with Timidity?  I had to install the pat files.

Yes too.
Title: Re: FFMPEGCA Media Processing/Creation Tool
Post by: CDRWSel on 2011.02.08, 02:24:34
Hello Andy,

Could you please give a try and this v1.1.2 test (1.1.2c) ?
 http:// remydodin.levillage.org /outils/AVXCAT_S-1_1_2.wpi

- Corrected an invalid IDtags display when opening edit tags after conveting files
- ffrunca no more needed
- Added move selected entry (one line) up or down in the process list
- Changed log message when end user cancels process
- Reduced "Stop" needed time when initiated by the end user

Kind regards
Remy