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#1
Quote from: Ben on 2008.09.03, 20:20:27
Sander.

This is an International forum.

A significant portion of the people that read and post here, have English as a second language.

Ben,

Given the content and context of his "examples" (as incoherent as they were), that was clearly not the case.  Either that or he was trying awfully hard to mislead and indicate otherwise.

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I cannot speak for everybody here, but I can make room for anyone that's trying. And if I have to put a little effort anywhere, it would be my pleasure to spend it trying to understand them, and consider it time well spent.


Well, I sincerely believe that in fact, you do not speak for everyone here.  You can go back 15 years (google and the OS/2 World archives are your friends) and not find a single example on Usenet or elsewhere in which I did otherwise.  A great many of those conversations were with "English as a second language" folks.  I think if you go back through this thread from the beginning, you may come to a different conclusion.  If not, well that's OK too.  :-)

This is EXACTLY why I left Usenet and why I post so little here these days.  Honest attempts to actually contribute to a thread by helping someone solve a posted OS/2 problem are diluted by a Tim Martin type who will then hijack the thread for the sake of their own moronic ego, or point out the obsolescence of OS/2 and offer a Windows (sub Mac or Linux) product as the solution, when in fact there is an excellent OS/2 solution available.     

If I have drawn any conclusion from this thread, sadly it is that my time and effort is better spent in other pursuits.  I won't make that mistake again.  To be clear, this is my last post.










#2
SAB, your replies are hilarious, only not in a good way.  I suspect you are quite young, and unaware of the realities of the subject matter you are attempting to address.  You obviously have no idea how uninformed and clueless your analogies are, let alone your misuse of grammar and  the English language.  I feel like I am having a battle of wits with an unarmed person (or Tim Martin), and at this point, frankly it's pointless.  I think your last 2 replies speaks volumes, and I will let them stand on their own merits, or more notably, their lack thereof. 

P.S.  Clearly you are also completely unaware that Lotus Symphony is merely Open Office 2.x with extra fonts and a little IBM window dressing. 
#3
SAB, are you seriously back in this thread with THAT??

First, DUDE, it's 2008!  No one in their right mind uses a spreadsheet to "run" their business.  A spreadsheet is a tool.

Second, DUDE, it's 2008!  No technology is safe from obsolescence.  If you're REALLY this fixated on obsolescence, what on G-d's green earth are you doing in an OS/2 forum?  Do you REALLY view OS/2 or it's eCS distribution as "safe" from obsolescence?

Third, DUDE, it's 2008!  In case you've been living under a rock, Microsoft won the war.  If we are talking about de facto standards in the business world, the Excel file format (by virtue of it's ubiquity if nothing else) is it.  Last time I checked, current versions of Excel do not run under OS/2 natively.  That is what filters are all about, and with the latest updates, I have no problem using Lotus 123 for viewing, sharing, or saving files in Excel format.  I use spread sheets a LOT as a financial tool.  This may astound you, but newer is not always better.  There are professionals using 123 simply because they prefer it.  That includes the manager of my local Washington Mutual Bank (though the bank is standardized on Excel), and my accountant, both of whom I have shared spreadsheets with.  My broker uses Excel.  I have no problem converting his files, or editing and returning them to him in Excel format.  Furthermore, businesses (especially big business) do not routinely upgrade software just because there is a new version out, unless there is a business advantage to the upgrade.  Software is not a hobby in the business world.

Lastly, IMO I can be more productive with Lotus 123 (especially under OS/2), and still prefer it, certainly over the Open Office 2.x equivalent, which I do use under Linux.  In Windows, I use Lotus 123 for the reasons stated above, and because I store all of my Lotus documents on that partition, I can work seamlessly on the same document from OS/2 as well.   

#4
Unfortunately (and it's a damn shame), anything even approaching modern audio editing is a futile endeavor with the tools currently available for OS/2.  I wish we at least had a port of (opensource/freeware) Audacity. 

As far as video editing goes, I have tried the OS/2 CLI tools, and although they are very much appreciated, by comparison, I have to agree with the GUI crowd.  I can work MUCH faster, more comfortably, and better with the GUI tools available on other OS's. 

IMO, OS/2 multimedia is VERY sorely in need of modern (hopefully opensource) tools.  Full state of the art home theater seems a distant dream.     
#5
Obiwan, I am mailing you some notes relative to your CONFIG.SYS, as well as some other things to bring you up to date.  Please check the config notes against your own CONFIG.SYS. 

One way or the other, this should be fixable, and the latest 123 along with the latest updates is much nicer than the ("old") original OS/2 version.  It also gives you the updated Excel filters, should you need to view, share, or modify a spreadsheet.  That has been an important feature for me at times.  Hang in there.  :-)
#6
I would have thought that the re-install would have taken care of any corrupt Lotus .IR files.  As a practical matter, CDRWSel's suggestion of keeping a good copy of the IR files as a backup is wise, although through all the versions, and years I have used SS, I have only needed to use my backup once.  YMMV. 

Obiwan, if you look at those IR files, are any of them 0 byte, or 32 bytes in size?

x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\L14SOM.IR
x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSRXO20.IR
x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSCTO39.IR
x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTSOMO10.IR
x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\LTOLSO20.IR
x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\WPSC2.IR
x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\ORGANIZE.IR
x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\APPROACH.IR
x:\LOTUSW4\ETC\FLG.IR

Also while your at it, check your bootdrive x:\OS2\ETC for the same.

X:\os2\ETC\REXX.IR
X:\os2\ETC\WPDSERV.IR
X:\os2\ETC\WPSH.IR
X:\os2\ETC\SOM.IR

For help with bringing SmartSuite up to it's current level, you might want to edit your profile to allow your email address to be shown.  :-)
#7
Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.09.01, 21:37:31
Re:

QuoteUsing your fathers analogy, he probably would also recommend that the OP move to XP or Vista, since while Symphony runs just fine on those OS's, TTBOMK, no one has been able to get Symphony to run reliably on OS/2 or eCS using Odin or IRT.

This is also what was written:

QuoteBesides, it would be neat (borrowing a phrase from my good friend - BigWarpGuy) if IBM Lotus Symphony 1.1 can run on OS/2-eCS 2.0.  ;D 8) ;D

And, this time on the "m-o-d-e-r-n-i-z-e-d  p-l-a-y-g-r-o-u-n-d-s" around the world it is going to be all about the "s-o-n-g" (Lotus Symphony 1-2-3)  ;D and not the "s-i-n-g-e-r".   8)

Did you miss this part?


NO.  I directly answered it with "TTBOMK, no one has been able to get Symphony to run reliably on OS/2 or eCS using Odin or IRT"  let alone integrating with either.  My point remains the same.  Additionally, I recommend you stay away from any 100 meter races.
#8
Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.09.01, 18:40:51
Quote from: isycoed on 2008.09.01, 17:15:48
The current release is FP3


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So, how long ago was this; and, just how does it match up with the latest release of
Lotus Symphony.



It was 1943 when fish still rode bicycles, which offers about as much help with your question, as your reply to the OP.

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So, in a world of standardized office productivity suites why not convert all the  Lotus 1-2-3 Files if they do exist and move on to the "modernized playground equipment" that is IBM Lotus Symphony.  ???


Using your fathers analogy, he probably would also recommend that the OP move to XP or Vista, since while Symphony runs just fine on those OS's, TTBOMK, no one has been able to get Symphony to run reliably on OS/2 or eCS using Odin or IRT. 

Obiwan, I have never seen your specific problem come up before, and couldn't find a reference to it in the OS/2 Lotus NG.  If Ivan's suggestion does not help, check your x:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT directory to be certain that LTUIR22.DLL is indeed there.  Then check LIBPATH to be sure that all of the Lotus statements are there, and specifically x:\LOTUSW4\COMPNENT.  Please let us know if the problem is resolved.
#9
The "duplicate" files in the sub directory of the Zip are not duplicates, but an alternate version designed for TCP/IP 4.0. 

This build is also not from KO Myung-Hun, but from Sava.  He has taken KO Myung-Hun's source from dev-SVN-r26012-OS2-3.3.5 and created a build to improve playback quality with lower powered machines.
#10
Quote from: BigWarpGuy on 2008.05.20, 22:16:16
With cable modems and DSL connections and other high speed internet connections, how many people still have an analog modem that the FAX software would connect to? Most can send it as an attachment to an e-mail.  ;D

Fax is an essential tool for much of the business world.  Try doing non-local financial, or real estate deals without fax.  Without fax you wouldn't get far in distribution, or most sales catagories either. 

Here we use the Brother MFC-8660DN networked multi function duplex laser Print, Copy, Scan, 33.6 Fax. Most small business use similar multi function machines.  The sad thing is that while all of the features are available to Windows, Mac, and all versions of Linux, they are NOT available for OS/2.   While the printer works under OS/2, and it works fine as a stand alone fax, and copier, it can not fax or scan directly from OS/2.

I would LOVE to see a fax solution for multi function machines like this. 
#11
Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.05.07, 08:56:27
HAH! I finally did something (albeit small) useful. I figured out how to hybridize the Innotek Java 1.42 and the Windows 1.50 JRE so you dont need any fancy Program Objects and so it can be used as the system Java :)

Uh, not exactly original.  Andy Willis posted this several days ago.  That's what I was referring to in my post above, "the ability to use the Innotek wrapper is a MUCH appreciated, elegant solution."
#12
Thus far, in my experience, Java 1.5.0_07 has been less prone to crashing and/or corrupting the WPS. 

As to Pete's comment about Limewire being "a little slow in responding to mouse clicks", I am definitely NOT seeing that here.  I am running the very latest version, Limewire 4.16.7 Pro, and it is quite responsive.  In fact, I see no difference running it under OS/2, XP, or Vista, with the exception of a slower launch time under OS/2. 

As far as there being little "response to Java 1.5 running on OS/2", keep in mind that when things "just work" with OS/2, there has always been little response in forums".  Most activity is generated in the, no solution, looking for a solution, or working on a solution phase.  Certainly, the discovery of this version of Java 1.5 working with OS/2 was an important find.  Likewise, the ability to use the Innotek wrapper is a MUCH appreciated, elegant solution. 
#13
Paul, I REALLY did not mean it THAT way, as you will see when you read my second e-mail, which was sent to the address I would normally send you mail.  My first mail response (with the attachment) was sent to an address I had never used (or don't recall), since that was the address you had used, and I simply handled it as a reply.  Since it was an .edu address, it occurred to me that the attachment may have caused it to be blocked/filtered.

I believe ALL of us understand your time constraints, based on past references to your "real" life.  :-)  With all you have done to help keep OS/2 viable despite those time constraints, your effort has been nothing short of heroic, and VERY much appreciated by everyone.

Regards,
Sander

#14
Hi Paul,

I have tried to follow up (2 additional e-mails) with you on your last release, including sending the files you requested, and my observations of mixed (from the recent releases) UNIAUD32.SYS & UNIAUD16.SYS combinations and more.  I have not received any relplies beyond your original, so I have no idea if you have viewed any, or all of that input.  If for some reason you did not receive my mail, let me know and I will send them again.
#15
Applications / Re: DBExpert
2008.03.29, 08:44:15
Quote from: Robert Deed on 2008.03.28, 21:23:21
Since the owners passing, what has happened to Sundial?  I know that his widow wanted to find someone to maintain the software, has that happened? 

It would have seemed that if the intent was to keep the software around (not worry about making money from it) that it would have made sense to put the source on hobbes or donate it to netlabs.

After only recently losing her husband, I seriously doubt that donating source code is her priority at this time, or anytime in the near future, if at all.