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Applications / Re: Firefox-8.0b6.en-US.os2
« on: 2011.11.13, 16:34:15 »
simply click right mouse button somewhere on page to open menu - and select "view page source"

Not that really exciting at all, if they are about to create another super, hyper, this-time-snap-technology-powered- VESA generic driver - it will still suck in comparision to old accelerated snap modes.
What makes me excited is gl/2 project and 3d acceleration. Will it ever materialize?.
But of course it will make happy all those who need to have any video mode on modern hardware.
But maybe I'm wrong, and mensys is going to add 2d accelerated modes for some new chips?

Open Bounties / Re: Porting AbiWord
« on: 2011.05.18, 11:22:18 »
Hi guys!

Snap is dead, panorama is crapp. What else did gradd gave us? (please, please don't mention here any ancient drivers for ancient video cards like matrox - it's 2011 - and I won't collect garbage to assemble my next pc.... but rather will go to shop to buy some 3d accelerator instead (there are nice 3d games out there, fullHD videos and support for gpu acceleration in major browsers as you might know already...)
So give me one reason to vote for gradd.
The solution proposed by Demetrious - 3d accelerated driver for os/2 - may give us some cool possibilities -  3d api, compositing manager, alpha compostiting (you know - even smartphones have it now) - so new look and performance to os/2.
So, again - give me one reason to bother with gradd? Nostalgia? Dos sessions? Win-OS/2 sessions? (rotfl)


i really wonder about your posts more and more. are those really worth the typing you do?
if you want to contribute, they buy such a device try to install and report back.

just my 2 cents

Actually I find posts by BigWarpGuy quite interesting. Interesting enough to open links he's attaching. AND his questions are quite substancial - If eCS can be installed on such devices. So It's up to us if we want to respond - basing on our hardware knowledge - whether it can be installed or not. No less, no more.

So BigWarpGuy - keep sending your posts - there is at least ONE FOOL to READ THEM ;) (well, ME ;) )



As for add-ons It all depends on which one we are talking about.
At the moment I'm using some with ff 4.0b8pre. Namely : Download Statusbar, NoScript, Forecastfox Weather 2.0.2,
Tree Style Tab 0.10.2010091901. They work as expected. However it might require some altering in xpi - install.rdf - just to change em:maxVersion="4.0b8pre" - so instead of just installing it - download it - change maxVersion to what you need and - in most cases it does the trick. If it doesn't - look for update - it won't take long before all important addons will ff4 compatible.

Applications / Re: Firefox won't start
« on: 2010.07.02, 20:40:07 »
One of the biggest problems with my system it's that Firefox won't start,,, ever.

I have done all the checks to make sure the libpath it's correct, that I only have one Firefox level. I erased all copies of libcxxx.dll, leaving only v. 063, only in <drive>:\ecs\dll

Still nothing. I replaced the old firefox for the latest one,,, and I use Firefox!.exe and Firefox.exe. It leaves nothing in the POPUP log.

I'm so tired of trying and I'm open to alternatives. Maybe a fresh start, from scratch,,,testing each step

Thanks in advance.

PS. This is not the only strange problem I have with the system

Could you be more specific please? Which version of Firefox. Plus some details about system - os, graphics, ifs used... etc.

From my experience on many builds of mozzilla apps - I had some builds which never run - no matter what I did - recently some seamonkey build. But those "never running" were really rare. Most of the problems with those wich I was finally able to run - was with old profiles or some leftovers from previous builds.
So installing from scratch is never bad idea.
I Hope your case won't need OS reinstall - it's always a lot of work.
One more thing - I'd suggest to use newest version available - today it's 3.7a6 (soon to turn into 4.0...) - it's quite snappier than 3.6 series, less glitches, and smaller memory footprint (just my impression)
Once again - more details on firefox version and box config needed. 


Hardware / Re: ATI x1950 Pro AGP Video Card
« on: 2010.06.17, 17:18:16 »

Let's start from mplayer options: (newest build of mplayer - as I do like keep it up to date...)


It is supposed to be in x:\HOME\DEFAULT\.MPLAYER\config - and for me it does the trick - mplayer is working via snapoverlay.

For KMP - kmp.cfg should contain -video snap or -video wo. Or one can specify driver in command line options : kmp.exe -video snap

Both players need snapwrap.dll to be present in executable directory or somewhere in libpath.

Of course you can use both - snap and warp overlays - but only one at the time. So If you mplayer uses snap you can't run kmp with warp overlay at the same time.
I have not used warpvision for ages but it used snapoverlay also.

As for ati x850 card - snap readme.txt - it is definitely among supported graphics chips for overlays. Unfortunately I don't have such card to test it for you.

(here is my config for mplayer:
# Settings for stream/file caching
# Setting for Browser User Agent response

Hardware / Re: ATI x1950 Pro AGP Video Card
« on: 2010.06.17, 11:56:32 »
Greggory wrote:
(...)You may want to consider the ATI 9800 series, because they work with Warp Overlay and the ATI x850 AGP does not (I have one installed now) and ATI cards have a bug with SNAP overlay.  For me there is a huge difference when using Warp Overlay with the ATI 9200-9800 series.(...)

First thing - why use warpoverlay while there is snapoverlay? The only few apps using warpoverlay were (iirc) warpvision (dead now), desktop painter, mplayer and kmp... - except desktop painter - all can work with snapoverlay.
Second thing - I'm using ati 9600 pro (agp) with snapoverlay without any issues. So if there is bug with snapoverlay and ATI cards - then it must be really minor bug ;) So really don't know if ATI x850 (agp) series will worse choice than ATI 9800 series.
Third thing - panorama driver is shitty. If you don't have to - don't use it.

Applications / Re: Testing HTML 5 firefox 3.6 eCS
« on: 2010.06.01, 12:33:32 »
Thanks for that Diver :) Do you happen to know what else we would need for a native Chrome Port?

Hi Saijin!! I'm afraid we can't expect google to port chrome to os/2 in near future ;) But still we can count on chromium - wich is foss variant of chrome ;)

Applications / Re: Testing HTML 5 firefox 3.6 eCS
« on: 2010.05.31, 16:56:37 »

WebM includes:
    * VP8, a high-quality video codec we are releasing today under a BSD-style, royalty-free license
    * Vorbis, an already open source and broadly implemented audio codec
    * a container format based on a subset of the Matroska media container

WebM has nothing to do with webkit.

Anyway, good to hear someone is implementing webm into os/2 mozilla ports.

Article Discussions / Re: QBittorrent version 1.4.5
« on: 2010.03.01, 14:56:07 »
Hi Silvan!
Great port - thank you!!!
At least torrent client for os/2 with encryption option - a must have for some mean ISPs. So I don't need utorrent, under winxp in virtualbox, anymore....
However there is small glitch in window title - it says QBittorent instead of QBittorrent - so one "r" is missing. Nothing bad though.
As about "zombie process"... isn't it about minimizing to tray instead of closing/exiting qt program? (in bittorrent setup there is 'minimizing to tray' and 'close to tray options').

Hardware / Re: Printing under eCS
« on: 2010.02.27, 20:10:45 »
hplip did the trick
my hp officejet 5510 all in one printer - is working now with ecups
big thanks Paul!

Applications / Re: mplayer sound options
« on: 2010.02.16, 08:03:45 »

10-01-19 11:31     14.051.286     61 a---    pmmplayer.exe - is that on hobbes?
10-01-14 14:10         12.524      0 a---     readme.kor - not needed as I don't read Korean
10-02-15 22:00          1.075      0 a---  tt   no idea what this is
10-01-19 11:23          <DIR>      0 a---  subs   or this

Hi Pete!

As for pmmplayer - it's ordinary mplayer with exe header changed so it does not produce debug window.
Here is receipt for:

  First of all, you need MARKEXE.EXE of ToolKit 4.5. If you have it, do the

    copy mplayer.exe pmmplayer.exe
    markexe windowapi pmmplayer.exe

  Or, you can use 'emxbind.exe' instead of 'markexe.exe' as the following.

    emxbind -e -p pmmplayer.exe

Quite useful when mplayer is default system video player - to keep it silent with no extra debug window.

Other files and dirs in mplayer dir are meaningless here. Your install is the same as mine.
Given the fact you have very right hardware for mplayer with snapoverlay - I've found it very perplexing ;) - why no success?
As for warpoverlay - I've no idea if it does serve X800. Last time I've used it - support was somewhat limited in comparison to  snapoverlay. Anyway, bad to hear you are still out of luck. And I give up....


Applications / Re: mplayer sound options
« on: 2010.02.15, 23:31:11 »

Maybe I should start a new discussion called mplayer video options...

Well, "Mplayer for dummies..." sounds more accurate here.

Here is content of my "amazingly working as expected" mplayer dir:

Directory of D:\PROGRAMS\mplayer

10-02-15 22:00          <DIR>      0 ----  .
10-02-12  8:31          <DIR>      0 ----  ..
04-07-17 11:39        367.112      0 ----  arial.ttf
10-01-11  9:13         34.236      0 a---  AUTHORS
10-01-11  9:13        132.403      0 a---  Changelog
08-08-07 15:25          <DIR>      0 a---  codecs
10-01-11  9:13          7.081      0 a---  Copyright
08-10-01 16:32        192.251    124 a---  dvdcss.dll
09-05-31 16:04         18.332      0 a---  LICENSE
10-01-14 13:33     13.973.497     61 a---  mencoder.exe
10-01-14 13:32     14.051.286     61 a---  mplayer.exe
09-02-08  5:19         74.162      0 a---  npmp.dll
10-01-19 11:31     14.051.286     61 a---  pmmplayer.exe
09-02-08  5:52          8.054      0 a---  README
10-01-14 14:10         12.866      0 a---  readme.eng
10-01-14 14:10         12.524      0 a---  readme.kor
10-01-16 15:09        106.017     54 a---  snapwrap.dll
10-01-19 11:23          <DIR>      0 a---  subs
10-02-15 22:00          1.075      0 a---  tt
       19 file(s)  43.042.182 bytes used

Here is D:\HOME\DEFAULT\.MPLAYER>config :

# Settings for stream/file caching
# Setting for Browser User Agent response

(note: some options are hashed as occasionally used)

My hardware:
video - radeon 9600 pro driven by snap
audio - sblive 5.1 driven by sandeers 0.8.2 beta driver (smp ready, bundled with ecs2xx)

And here is piece from snap readme:


Supported Graphics Chips for Overlays

The following is a list of graphics chipsets that have support for
hardware video overlays.  Video overlays allow video players to use
the graphics card for processing of video data, which decreases CPU
utilization and improves the quality of video when stretched.  Use
of this feature requires a video player with explicit support for it.

. ATI Rage IIC, Rage Pro, Rage LT Pro, Rage XL, Rage Mobility, Rage 128
. ATI Rage 128 Pro, Rage 128 Ultra, Rage Mobility 128, Rage Mobility 128-D4x
. ATI Radeon 7000, Radeon 7200, Radeon 7500, Radeon 8500, Radeon 8500DV
. ATI Mobility Radeon, Mobility Radeon 7000 IGP, Mobility Radeon 7500
. ATI Mobility Radeon 9000, Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP, Radeon 9000 Series
. ATI Radeon 9100 Pro IGP, Radeon 9100, Mobility Radeon 9200
. ATI Radeon 9200 Series, Radeon 9500, Radeon 9500 Pro, Radeon 9550
. ATI Mobility Radeon 9550, Mobility Radeon 9600, Radeon 9600 Series
. ATI Radeon 9600 XT, Radeon 9700 Pro, Mobility Radeon 9800, Radeon 9800
. ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, Radeon 9800 XT, Mobility Radeon X300, Radeon X550
. ATI Mobility Radeon X600, Radeon X300 Series, Radeon X600 Series
. ATI Mobility Radeon X800, Radeon IGP 320M / 340M, Radeon XPress 200
. ATI Mobility Radeon XPress 200, FireMV 2200, Radeon X700 Series
. ATI Radeon X800 Series, Radeon X850 Series
. Intel i845G, i865G, i915G/GV, i915GM/GMS, i945G, i945GM
. S3 SuperSavage/IXC
(another good reason to not use anything other than radeon with snap)

And really, no other magic here.
If you still find anything perplexing here - I give up.


btw. Dive output is shitty.

Hardware / Re: nVidia GeForce 6600 and SNAP
« on: 2010.02.09, 19:22:18 »

Raiko, were you able to get this to work in DVI mode with an LCD monitor?


Just to save your time - here is a piece from snap readme

Supported Flat Panel Graphics Chips

The following is a list of graphics chipsets that are working with digital
flat panels.  Other chipsets will work with flat panels in analog mode.
Please note that if you can't see anything on the display when you boot your
machine, SciTech SNAP Graphics can't fix this, as it is a hardware problem.
Unless otherwise noted, the flat panel interface used is DVI.  Also note
that digital flat panel monitors do not support refresh rate control,
although they may emulate it when running in analog mode.  Currently, modes
available on digital flat panels are limited to those provided by the video
BIOS, which in most cases does not go higher than 1280x1024.  The only
exception to this is the ATI Radeon chipsets, which now feature native
panel programming.

. ATI 3D Rage LT Pro (DFP), Rage XL (DFP), Rage 128 Pro, Rage 128 Ultra
. ATI Radeon 7000, Radeon 7200, Radeon 7500, Radeon 8500, Radeon 8500DV
. ATI Radeon 9000 Series, Radeon 9100, Radeon 9200 Series, Radeon 9500
. ATI Radeon 9500 Pro, Radeon 9550, Radeon 9600 Series, Radeon 9600 XT
. ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, Radeon 9800, Radeon 9800 Pro, Radeon 9800 XT
. ATI Radeon X300 Series, Radeon X550, Radeon X600 Series, FireMV 2200
. ATI Radeon X700 Series, Radeon X800 Series, Radeon X850 Series
. Intel i845G, i865G, i915G/GV, i945G
. Matrox MGA-G200 (DFP), MGA-G400, MGA-G450, MGA-G550, MGA-P650, MGA-P750
. Matrox Parhelia
. VIA CLE266
. VESA VBE 2.0, VBE 3.0

So it looks nvidia's are not working with snap via digital output. Sorry. That's why I stick to radeons.
As for adding mode:

gamode.exe is in use here

gamode 2048 1152 32    ;   added mode for my 23'' samsung with nonstandard resolution 2048 x 1152 - and yes it's working via dvi from the installation phase.

With nonstandard (for video bios) resolution you may experience problems with older nvidias cards also on windoze while using dvi - simply it might turn out you won't be able to set native resolutions - especially higher ones. Radeons were known to allow native panel resolution programing, thus better choice for dvi and snap.

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