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#1
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2011.06.02, 12:29:24

The lack of OpenGL makes a port impossible.

Apparently, X3D suffers from the same problem: http://www.web3d.org/ .
#2
The new NIST atlas of special functions has an online component that requires either VRML or X3D working with your browser. I don't know if that means plugin or helper -- they don't specify it where I looked.

Is there any chance of getting something ported to use with some version of Firefox that would meet NIST's requirements of either VRML or X3D ?

If I were to pay for a port, is there a ball-park figure for the cost?

I originally planned to sponsor a bounty, but the lack of response to my SAGE bounty and the reluctance of the admin here to have unlikely bounties multiplying endlessly has led me to this attempt.

All responses appreciated: any kind will tell me something I don't know.
#3
Sage 4.7 was released on 23 May 2011. It is available at

           http://www.sagemath.org/download.html

* About Sage (http://www.sagemath.org)

Sage is developed by volunteers and combines over 90 open source packages.
It is available for download from www.sagemath.org and its mirrors in
source or binary form. If you have any questions and/or problems,
please report them to any of these Google groups:

  * sage-support: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support
  * sage-devel: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel

You can also drop by in #sagemath on freenode. Please report build and
doctest results to the Google group

  * sage-release: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-release
#4
Is there any place on the SAGE site to ask why they insist on rebuilding things already built, over and over again if I understand you and Andy correctly? And why one can't use the already-existing libraries one has? Is it "OpenSource correct" to change things so much that they have to be rebuilt without changing the name and/or version number?

If I understand correctly, it seems one %$#@ of a backward way to go about doing things.  While it may be for mathematicians, it doesn't sound like one had anything to do with designing it. Research math is a lot of reusing things as much as possible before creating new ones; reuse in new and clever ways, sure -- but not reinventing the wheel every time you need something that even resembles one!

If this sounds too naive, it's probably because I'm not a programmer of any sort. I'm a mathematician who just wants more choice in computer-aided math apps, and who insists they run on OS/2-eCS.
#5
If it becomes a bounty, I'll contribute USD 100.

The US National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST, formerly NBS) recently made the first update of the classic Handbook of Special Functions by Abramowitz and Stegun since its original publication in 1952. It now comes as a printed book, as before, and also as a Web Site requiring either VRML or X3D to manipulate the graphs.

The Handbook has been the bible for generations of engineers and other users of applied mathematics. The new Web edition provides all users with a completely interactive interface that was never possible with printed handbooks.
#6
SAGE is now at version 4.4.4 as of 2010-06-24.

In case anyone is interested, I've been trying to increase the bounty by USD 100 for months now. If and when PayPal, my browser, and my credit card begin to cooperate with each other, I'll do it.

For me, PayPal is just a big PITA. The only success I've ever had with it was the initial USD 200 bounty, which occurred only because I borrowed a Windows XP box to do it. PayPal has never worked for me via OS/2-eCS.

So, is anyone interested in this bounty? How high does the bounty need to be before anyone might become interested? Or should I put my money somewhere else and forget about SAGE?
#7
SAGE has recently been updated: v3.2.3 (2009-01-08).

This bounty is higher than most, so I'm wondering.  Is there some peculiarity about a port of SAGE that makes it exceedingly difficult?  If the bounty were higher, would that get a port done sooner?  Or would it matter at all?

Do any porters have any interest whatsoever in doing this port?
#8
general SAGE URL: <http://www.sagemath.org/>

Complete Source Code  (With All Dependencies!): <http://www.sagemath.org/dist/src/index.html>

Quotes from the SAGE Web site:

Use an Open Source Alternative
By using SAGE you help to support a viable open source alternative to Magma, Maple, Mathematica, and MATLAB. SAGE includes many high-quality open source math packages.

Use a Standard Programming Language
You work with SAGE using the highly regarded scripting language Python instead of an obscure language designed for a particular mathematics program. You can write programs that combine serious mathematics with anything else.

Create Notebooks with your Web Browser
Use SAGE from your web browser, which connects either to a program running on your computer, or a program running elsewhere. With the SAGE notebook you can create embedded graphics, beautifully typeset mathematical expressions, add and delete input, and start up and interrupt multiple calculations.

I'm sponsoring the bounty.