here's a comercially nuetral link for ya all...
http://www.os2warp.be/index2.php?name=feedbackusbsite .. VIZ.for hardware reporting...
Ok, steering_smearing, I am having a tough time keeping up with this posts' thread_ing, its like a finer and finer tipped needle which I have to jump through, to get the gist - I too am missing the point? -well I guess; I thought the steering was about just go somewhere like Mensys if you like OS/2, they are running the monkey and organ grinder show now not us, not IBM, and I thought all along we here on this Forum at least were kinda leaning toward a non profit kind of thing, open source or whatever, you can always make money if collaboration is non-cryptic, [open standards for HW/SW] as MS did it with open sourcing hardware,

IBM did not take that track and therefore I believe that is why IBM lost out, although it was in their best interest to keep the PS/2 and its early OS/2 migration strategy " closed " for licensing purposes, it was not in the best interest of MS to do that(follow a closed standard for hardware, which is why so many more devs partnered with MS for the purposes of making TwindoZe run with so many devices, furthermore are we talking home use or banks? I can not see open source for banking even though Imatix has done some of this, an open source OS/2 software package is probubly not going to happen unless we all demand it in the open market, when we do, and so very loudly-IBM will have to come around for fullfilling the needs of a market if its a BIG market; I cant gloat over no code, I can understand steering up to the limit of my dissatisfaction, buy a big machine and IBM will go out of their way to support your enterprize, buy a desktop, move to china...so OS/2 has to be patched when its sold old by todays device standard, Vista
has no fixpacks and can never be totally fixed, I still get the BSOD when I have to use it; esp with IE8; I was hoping for a simple_machine with a simple_OS someday supported by a developer community in tune with the needs of its following, visa vie "can u say Lnx" ...something that looked alot like my warp machine: NO hangs, no mysterious invalid memory over runs, no drivers to update all of the time and no darn expensive upgrades every other year that seem to carry on all the dead code from the past on with it and no more throwing out all my hardware every two years because some kuke says I have to...I love the Virtualization model aforemetioned, but as far as being a purist, following IBM not Linus, if you follow the money, as most do, I guess I am stuck with ECs, I hate giving money to MS continually becoming more disillusioned having done the migration toward a BalmerNirvana...meanwhile the [real] unanswered question remains with regard to the big fork in the road though vague as it seems...so where/what am I supposed to migrate to IBM?
Painful being a purist isnt it?
MZ