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166
Hardware / Re: ASUS EEE 1008HA Seashell
« on: 2009.07.12, 19:52:19 »
Hi,

Video about it availiable here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f12cNJnhio


167
Events / New Video about eComStation on Netbooks published
« on: 2009.07.12, 00:09:26 »
Hi,

hope you enjoy! And hope that you might see why I would still like the use ecomstation on modern hardware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f12cNJnhio

Cheers

168
Hi,

Hardware: ASUS EEE1008HA, Details here:

http://en.ecomstation.ru/hardware.php?action=item&id=1726

I already flashed the latest BIOS availiable 0801.


169
Article Discussions / Thorolfs reply to Thomas II
« on: 2009.07.06, 18:46:34 »
To this message:

http://www.os2world.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,63/topic,1727.msg11729/#msg11729


Hi Thomas,

> I did not want to blame or insult anyone in person, certainly not
> Sigurd. Wink ...well, except for Thorolf perhaps, but that's another
> story related to WSE... anyway:
thanks for the flowers :-(

To make clear what he means, here is the public discussion about a side
note I wrote in the GenMAC-forum:

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.genmac.user/

It began on the 24.05.09 with my post to Peter:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.genmac.user/2332

And it ended the 24.05.09 with this post from Peter:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.genmac.user/2334


And this is what Christian wrote on the 13.06.09 (three weeks later!) to
me: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.genmac.user/2320/focus=2341

And the one from 13.06.09 from Thomas Klein:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.netlabs.genmac.user/2320/focus=2343


Even if my note was not that good, either you, nor Christian have any
right to bash me personaly and, by the way,  nobody would have taken any
notice from my post in the future any more!


Bye Thorolf

170
Article Discussions / Thorolfs reply to Christian and Thomas
« on: 2009.07.06, 18:42:27 »
Hi Thomas, hi Christian,


could you please stop discredit me in public forums?


I Know that Christian is being paid by Mensys to do press (and lobbying?),
so his "what do you want, everything is perfect"-position is
understandable, but I can't understand why others are not willing to read
the threads on OS2.org and stop bashing me just because I am criticizing
the past and current eCS development.


Did you have been in constant contact with Mensys over the last 8 month
and did you tried to get the eCS development back on any track?

Would you claim that Mensys has any working project management, or do you
realy think, as they do, that a project management is _not_ neccesary for
doing an eCS 2.0?

Would you say that the past and current development of eCS was successfull
and there is nothing to be changed?


Beside of Joachim, Roderick and Steven there are _only_ three people who
know anything about the current status of the eCS development and this are
Andreas, Jan and me - and belive me, what we know about it is even worse
than you ever can think about, it even can't be published in it's full
thruth :-(


For all others who are realy interested in the current status of the
development of eCS, there are two threads on OS2.org, unfortunately in
german and it is hard for me to translate them in english.

But _some_ translation, at least for undestanding what's going on, you
might get with http://translate.google.com/

Maybe Christian is willing to translate some of the posts too, his english
is _much_ better than mine and perhaps he finaly even would be able to
understand that there never where any bashing or agressivity comming from
us or from me, but on the contrary I have always tried to push the eCS
forward with constructive criticism.


To understand the current situation, the posts from Andreas, Jan and me
are important, but also the answers from Roderick an Joachim are
significant.


First thread is "ecomstation" from the 30.04.2009:
http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?list=121127

The answers from Roderick and Joachim are in english, some of our answers
too, so everybody might be able to read them!

The most important posts are:
http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=121167
DE -> EN:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=de&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.os2.org%2Fforum%2Fdiskussion%2F%3Fid%3D121167&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1

http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=121255
DE -> EN:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=de&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.os2.org%2Fforum%2Fdiskussion%2F%3Fid%3D121255&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1

http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=121274

The second thread is "30. Juni 2009" from 29.06.2009:
http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?list=122077

http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=122090
DE -> EN:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=de&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.os2.org%2Fforum%2Fdiskussion%2F%3Fid%3D122090%0D%0A&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1

http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=122118
DE -> EN:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=de&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.os2.org%2Fforum%2Fdiskussion%2F%3Fid%3D122118&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1

http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=122122
DE -> EN:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=de&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.os2.org%2Fforum%2Fdiskussion%2F%3Fid%3D122122&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1

http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=122167
DE -> EN:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=de&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.os2.org%2Fforum%2Fdiskussion%2F%3Fid%3D122167&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1

http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=122173
DE -> EN:
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=de&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.os2.org%2Fforum%2Fdiskussion%2F%3Fid%3D122173&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1&swap=1


If Jan or I find any time, we will translate some of our posts to english
too, but actually I think it is wasted time, because nothing will change.


Bye,

Thorolf

171
Article Discussions / Status Update on eComstation II
« on: 2009.07.06, 18:41:38 »
Hi,

the original thread seems to be unreachable, even if I follow the given hint. Thorolf asked me to publish two mails he sent me because he can not register here anymore.

So, this comments are not from me, I just copy and paste the given text.

[Kim Haverblad: I've added link to the original thread]

172
Hi,

ACPI 3.15 and 3.16 for me have unfortunately been steps backwards. (I would like to stress FOR ME because I know from at least one person who reported to have benefit from version 3.16).

I got back to 3.14 because the new versions did not allow to power off my Netbook while 3.14 did. :-(

Cheers

173
Hardware / Re: ASUS EEE 1008HA Seashell
« on: 2009.07.01, 11:57:39 »
Sorry, no success so far.

Regarding WLAN I have now something different in mind, if it will work I will report.

174
Article Discussions / Re: Status update on eComStation 2.0
« on: 2009.06.30, 16:44:53 »
Hello Christian,

to a certain degree you are right, for sure, I am double minded, that is true.

- Yes , I am sometimes very dissappointed, not to say frustrated
- and Yes, sometimes I am quite in a kind of High spirits

Why?:

- Frustrated: because of the NONE Information given by Mensys, all the problems, discussed for years now, never changed, never got the point, never showed something like a plan behind it, -  especially all those days when it comes that announced deadlines have passed away without any information, proofed several times. And I hope you do not think I want to behave like the people you have in mind, want to destroy something or just complaining. No - I am at least a customer who payed once (and again) for something promised that actually did not happen.

And I think it is not fair to say criticism is not fair because this damages the people who still do a lot for this project. Shouldn`t it be allowed to do so? To tell your opinion?

For me I always tried my best with my limited possibilities to at least participate in this development, to push something, to announce something, to make some advertisement, therefore I made the videos, spook at Warpstock about Netbooks and made the Howto's to that. That have been the times where I have been in

- high spirits: Yes - eComStation can be installed and runs on Netbooks! Yes - it runs on the Lenovo Thinkpad SL 300! Yes - it is possible to run Windows 7 in Virtualbox under eComStation! Yes, the first draft of eComStation/netbook videos have been seen by about 5.000 viewers!  Yes - the OS/2 thread at ASUSEEEUSER.com have been hit more than 25.000 times (more than MacOS or Solaris...)!

Hope, this explains the rollercoaster I am driving here with eComStation.

Yes - you are right - deep in my mind I do not want to miss OS/2 - eComStation, I can not say why, it was the first operating system I ever owned, the first on my first PC. Due to the fact to have only Windows users around it has always mean something special (not in terms like something better) to use this Operating System. And it makes so much fun to fix problems with other users, with this community here, meet new people like Ed Durrant, Robert Lalla, and so on and so on.

But when it comes to Mensys - this outrages me! And this outrages me even more, when I think of all those people like you and a lot of others who do so much for this project, as I told you at os2.org as well.

So, please, do not take this as something counterproductive, I do not want to persuade anyone to anything or to start a "revolution", I just want to say : Thats pretty steep to treat customers like this!

And I know, this will change nothing, but after all this years, because of still having a great relation to this operating system, it would be to easy for me just to say goodbye.

To many have just gone.

Hi Thomas (warpcafe),

sorry, because of my limited english it took some time for me to answer to Christian, therefore I missed the meanwhile incoming.

Just to stress this - if it is adressed to me:

- I do not take part in coding or something like this because my programming skills are close to 0,00% (told before in other threads). To learn to program I simply do not have the time, I have to work and have a wife and three children. These are much more important to me. And that is the reason why a already paid for Mensys, and not only once!

- I do not have any problem about my "role in the OS/2 world", for me I do not play or have one, if it is so, sorry, I never realized it. And for me there is no need to play it. As told before: if one of my children becomes ill - that is the kind of problems wich are important to me

And that Mensys brings the stuff, no one else is able or willing to do: Yes - that is what I as a customer can demand when I payed for it, isn't it? That seems to me logical and usual in business.

Why is it a problem to tell that I am not satisfied with that what is provided from Mensys?

And you are right: what is the REAL change in this situation? NOTHING.


175
Article Discussions / Re: Status update on eComStation 2.0
« on: 2009.06.30, 11:57:28 »
Hi,

my position is a result of the experience I made over the last two years. And especially a result of the statement Thorolf gave. If it takes 5 years to try to keep ACPI in touch with the hardware and on the other hand so many developer do "pass away" - how long will it take to come someday to a level where eComStation will support the ACTUAL hardware in a stable way?

Yes, I know, there is a lot of Hardware around, if you can find it and build your own machine it might or will work, but:

- you may try to do this if you need a netbook as I wrote before.
- as I wrote already in 2006 (!) : " I do not need an eComStation promised for 2007 that will run on hardware from 2004!". And now, already three more years passed away.

I feel really sorry for all those developers who spent their spare time to push this forward without the result they deserve.

Sigurd


176
Article Discussions / Status update on eComStation 2.0
« on: 2009.06.30, 08:17:38 »
http://www.os2world.com/content/view/19019/1/
Quote
Posted by Martin Iturbide - Tuesday, 30 June 2009


The followi. .. .

Sorry,

but this is to late, I fear. While the "Time syncronisation with Bulgaria" is fixed these things here happen as Thorolf Godawa tells here http://de.os2.org/forum/diskussion/?id=122090 (sorry, it has to be translated into English):

- Dani stopped Development of DANI Dirvers
- Willibald Meyer does not see any sense any more in further Development of GENMAC
- Peter Weilbacher does not have the time to get his Mozilla Envirement running

Other German Developers already switched to MAC or starting to find an alternative.

For me the lack of support of WLAN and LAN Hardware is the KO criteria. There is no support for modern chipsets, especially those launched since the last year (like Intel 5100 and so on).

I know that Mensys told before to have resources to keep all these things going on, but I have to be honestly and polite - I hope this becomes true.

The current status of eComStation in my opinion allows to install on hardware with an support of the most important things (Graphics, USB, LAN, WLAN) only if it is about two years old. And this will become rapidly worse. Otherwise you have to break warranties while dissambling components (espacially for notebooks and netbooks) and may destroy parts of the hardware (as happend to me unfortunately) or you have to ask for a special supplier.....

I really feel sorry for this and did have patience (I guess really a lot patience) and paid quite some money for it over the past 5 years but provided with these news it is now time for me.

Sigurd


177
Did you try specifying "overwrite" yes to end the installation and just before the reboot, change the *bdp file with the modified one ? 

Yes, unfortunately the same result. I wonder the new file is smaller than the unfixed one, some 100 byte. May I have destroyed something while inserting as Andy guessed?

Seems that I get the high CPU load as soon as I use the modified bpd file, it seems not to depend on gaoption noncert. Still UNIVBE 3.0

Log File attached




178
Hi,
I would only zap the existing line and change
27A2 to 27A6   

Hi,

thats what I just tried (Suprising to me I had to "insert" a 54 to get a hex 36 shown as a 6....). I then installed SNAP again, it asked me if it should overwrite the graphics.bpd file, but I denied. But after a reboot I still had VESA VBE 3.0 loaded.

Next I tried via Commandline: gaoption noncert on  - the only result was that the system went up to 99% CPU load, even after a reboot.

At least one thing went fine:  with   gamode 1024 600 8 (and again 16) I was able to add the 1024X600 resolution to SNAP, and this worked.

It is a pitty with the vendor ID in graphics.bpd

I have to investigate more, I may did something wrong

Sigurd

179
Hi,

@ cdrwsel: Thanks for this, it is in deed 8086:27A6

@ Radek: Thanks to you as well. Downloaded a Hex Editor and started it, load the file - BUT: here comes the problem: Because of having programming skills close to 0% I do not know exactly how to add this line. I even do not know wich keys I have to press to get the caracter I do want to have.

Perhaps there is someone outside who is able to add this line for me in the graphic.bpd?

I guess, if this is going to work, this would dramatically increase the usability and value for all "eComStation on Netbook" users!


180
Here are SNAP Intel supported chipset:
...
0 10EA:2000 igs.drv.Mar.19.2000.17.37.36        ; InteGraphics CyberPro 2000
0 10EA:2010 igs.drv.Mar.19.2000.17.37.36        ; InteGraphics CyberPro 2010
0 8086:7121 i810.drv.Jun.20.2002.18.18.00       ; Intel i810
0 8086:7123 i810.drv.Jun.20.2002.18.18.00       ; Intel i810/DC100
0 8086:7125 i810.drv.Jun.20.2002.18.18.00       ; Intel i810e
0 8086:1132 i810.drv.Jun.20.2002.18.18.00       ; Intel i815
0 8086:2562 i845.drv.Jul.31.2006.14.58.46       ; Intel i845G/GL/GV
0 8086:3582 i845.drv.Jul.02.2004.12.12.13       ; Intel i852/i855 GM/GME
0 8086:2572 i845.drv.Jul.31.2006.14.58.46       ; Intel i865G/GL/GV
0 8086:2582 i845.drv.Jul.31.2006.14.58.46       ; Intel i915G/GV
0 8086:2592 i845.drv.Jul.31.2006.14.58.46       ; Intel i915GM/GMS
0 8086:2772 i845.drv.Jul.31.2006.14.58.46       ; Intel i945G
0 8086:27A2 i845.drv.Jul.31.2006.14.58.46       ; Intel i945GM
0 8086:7800 intel.drv.Feb.13.2001.16.35.28      ; Intel i740
0 003D:00D1 intel.drv.Feb.13.2001.16.35.28      ; Intel i740 PCI
...
You'll find it into "graphic.bpd" file which is under /os2/drivers/SNAP after installation
Probably the installation will work but reboot will not.
My suggestion would be to try zapping this file for the i945GM entry due Intel id for i945GM/950 is : 27A6 (and not 27A2) resulting into a line like that:
0 8086:27A6 i845.drv.Jul.31.2006.14.58.46       ; Intel i945GM/950 
(this is a supposition only  ::) )
 
Found PCI database : http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendors.php?sort=id

Hi,

thanks for this!

What program should I use to open the .bpd file because the systemeditor refuse to load ("This file is bigger than 1 MB" and so on)

Thanks again

Sigurd

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