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General Discussion / Re: Downgrade from Vista to XP?
« on: 2008.04.01, 05:28:18 »
Re: "even if IBM didn't develop those enhancements". Case in point - there was an wholesale transfer by IBM of the Journaling File System (JFS) (specifically developed for OS/2) to the Linux Operating System. Also, with regards to "Linux as an OS existed before IBM did research to develop AIX". As history will show... if fact "AIX Version 1, introduced in 1986 for the IBM 6150 RT workstation, was based on UNIX System V Releases 1 and 2. In developing AIX, IBM and INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation (whom IBM contracted) also incorporated source code from 4.2 and 4.3BSD UNIX.

Among other variants, IBM later produced AIX Version 3 (also known as AIX/6000), based on System V Release 3, for their IBM POWER-based RS/6000 platform. Since 1990, AIX has served as the primary operating system for the RS/6000 series (now called System p by IBM).

AIX Version 4, introduced in 1994, added symmetric multiprocessing with the introduction of the first RS/6000 SMP servers. AIX Version 4 continued to evolve though the 1990s culminating with AIX 4.3.3 in 1999...." and was not developed after "Linux as an OS existed before IBM did research to develop AIX" as you appear to be saying.

You may wish to try this link for additional information on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIX_operating_system


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General Discussion / Re: Downgrade from Vista to XP?
« on: 2008.03.31, 23:48:11 »
Can this be really true; "I'm guessing that IBM fell in love with Linux because it cost them nothing to acquire an OS that was largely functional, arguably "superior" to anything else available, and constantly worked on, for free, by thousands of other programmers that IBM is under no obligation to compensate in any way, other than to make a mention of them in some GPL text somewhere...." And, I am quite sure that others can back me up on this statement. IBM, as far as it can be remembered poured millions of dollars into the development of Linux (fought a law suit against the Microsoft reportedly backed SCO....) and have even "donated' Source-Codes (in a way similarly to what the OS/2 World Foundation was asking IBM to do for the OS/2 Community). Let us see what others have to say about this.  ???

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General Discussion / Re: Downgrade from Vista to XP?
« on: 2008.03.31, 23:07:43 »
You know "Saijin_Naib"; sometimes one ought to wonder why was it that IBM fell in love with "Linux" but then again one has to remember that "Chicago" (like Vista appears to be like) did not arrive; and, as I go into retirement in the next few years after waiting (like many others including IBM) for the last thirty or there about on Windows I would like to look back and be happy that a page could have been taken from Lou Gerstner's book. So, if that is the "vulnerability" that you are talking about "Saijin_Naib"; thankfully, there are eComStation, VOYAGER (and possibly CASSINI) on the horizon.  ;D ;D ;D

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General Discussion / Re: Downgrade from Vista to XP?
« on: 2008.03.31, 22:47:00 »
That "kimhav" started out with the following; "I guess that I'm not the only one that runs several OS both at work and home and yes, this is an OS2 based site... but I'm kind of curious regarding this topic..."; but, Gee Whiz... and, not being in any way jealous... the feeling is that this discussion has escalated into a Windows-only forum and I am curious to know if more things OS/2 should not be discussed rather than so much focus on "VISTA"!  ::)  ::) ::)

"kimhav", Thanks for the info on which this site runs. Is it possible to obtain some specifics to enable us to do the same (have our sites "developed" and "run" under the OS/2 Platform).

Here are the the parked URLs:

http://www.OrionEnterprises.com

      and

http://www.OrionResourcesIntl.com

Thank you in advance.


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Rexx / Re: Parse XML
« on: 2008.03.31, 00:47:08 »
Additionally to; "But, without any access the Operating System's API (re: OS's WF Petition Letter to IBM) and with particular reference to "a separate application (including those of "Composite and Collaborative Applications") with full GUI..." how sure are all of these possible?

Here is why "without access to the OS/2 Operating System's API's this might not be quite possible according to this IBM Lotus Development Corporation's 1998 communication; "Re: Concerning the issues with 1-2-3 that are talked about in the documentation you gave me, most of the issues are related to converting files between older and newer versions of product and converting documents between Lotus and Microsoft. Anytime a file is saved backwards or saved with an older file format than the format the file was created under, such as saving a 1-2-3 , 97 file for Windows 95 into a WK1 format for DOS, then naturally we are expected to loose certain features due to technology and features that are present now that were not present 8 - 10 years ago. Similarly, if we try to convert a file from Lotus into Excel or Excel into Lotus, due to differences in the products not every feature will be converted perfectly with the file filters that are available. Both Lotus and Microsoft create similar spreadsheet programs; however, there are several differences in both programs and these differences will remain to distinguish the products apart. We do try to design conversion filters that will allow as much of the file formats as possible to be exchanged and converted without disrupting the actual file design and format.

In one of your letters you made mention of the @IRR and @ERR functions in the 1-2-3 product. By design the @IRR (notably "absent" in Open Office) (will calculate the Internal Rate of Return; where the @ERR is used in conjunction with other formulas, posted was an "ERR" showing an error was received in the calculations). (As far as I can see in the program I cannot find an @ERR function that will allow us to calculate an Economic Rate of Return)".  :-X


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Rexx / Re: Parse XML
« on: 2008.03.30, 22:33:39 »
You said; "Well, you could either seamless integrate into the wps or if you'd like as a separate application with full GUI...". But, without any access the Operating System's API (re: OS's WF Petition Letter to IBM) and with particular reference to "a separate application (including those of "Composite and Collaborative Applications") with full GUI..." how sure are all of these possible?


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Rexx / Re: Parse XML
« on: 2008.03.30, 21:46:14 »
Quite; "Note: this is the OS/2 release in which REXX became part of the base operating system. It had previously been included in the IBM OS/2 Extended Edition 1.2 only". It was in this context that the question with regards to "historical considerations" was asked. Now, the feeling is - just how easy and simple it would/could be if the "REXX Tools" like the one now being spoken about can be integrated into any existing OS/2 Operating System thus leaving OS/2 users to focus on the real "tasks" (Spread Sheet function *API* calls...) at hand.  ;D


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Rexx / Re: Parse XML
« on: 2008.03.30, 21:01:12 »
Here is another question: Can the "REXX Tool" that you have created ((or a similarly created one) be used to extract embedded data in the context of "Spread Sheet" scenarios.? Also, to what extent have historical considerations been given to the fact that "REXX became part of the base operating system. It (having ) previously been included in the IBM OS/2 Extended Edition 1.2 only.

Re: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/awdtools/rexx/library/rexxos2.html


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Rexx / Re: Parse XML
« on: 2008.03.30, 19:34:51 »
Hey "jep"! It is very nice to see there are folks like you out there who can and are handling the REXX Language (just did a few introductory and that all for me for now as the preference was at the micro-computing end...  ;D) Anyway I am just being curious since you have said; "I've created a tool in rexx to extract data embedded into a special kind of XML-files.
You can see the functions below that you can use as guides for further discussions
You can also give us examples of the xml parser .dll's for OS/2 and rexx that's available and where and how to use them in various situations..." What are the compelling reasons for someone or a company to "embed data into a special kind of XML-files" when there is (a) an already established and approved International Organization for Standardization (ISO) Format Standard; re: Open Document Format (ODF) Standards; and, (b) the Microsoft's OOXML proposals are also under consideration by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO).  :-X


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General Discussion / Re: Downgrade from Vista to XP?
« on: 2008.03.30, 17:44:10 »
Hello OS/2's W F Ambassador Plenipotentiary ("kimhav"); While we are on the topic of Microsoft's "Vista" re: "When buying new systems today for Lenovo one is forced to accept an installation of Vista - at least one could earlier order ThinkPads with XP instead of Vista - even if the price was around 165 USD higher (at least here in Sweden)..." what immediately comes to mind is that previous to the acquisition of IBM's PC Company by Lenovo one could have easily (somewhat) obtained an IBM PC System that runs the OS/2 Warp Operating System. The questions are: how easy is it today for someone to obtain an Lenovo PC System that would run the OS/2 Operating System; and, if Lenovo continues to support the OS/2 Operating System in the way that it in the case of IBM. Also, will representation be made on behalf of the OS/2 World Foundation for companies such as Lenovo, HP, Intel et cetera et cetera.... for the addition of OEM support for the OS/2 Operating System.

Thank you.


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Off Topic discussions / Re: My Smart Fortwo Pure
« on: 2008.03.30, 03:01:18 »
"What the hell does that even mean, and what does that have to do with anything?" Now "Saijin_Naib"; are you trying to spoil a rather nice gaff or what. FYI at about 17-18 years old I had a stint at machining a few spare parts for a Rolls Royce that was presented to a training institution which I attended as an apprentice this alone should give an indication of the appreciation of babies like the "Smart Fortwo"; and, the "numbers" and "spread sheet" mention have much to do with the "economics" (energy saving...) of the ownership of a vehicle such as "Smart Fortwo". It may be quite understandable if "numbers crunching" is one of your favorite daily activities.  8). Hey "BigWarpGuy"; just to let you know that I have taken the liberty of forwarding "the link" to a few former colleagues of mine in Canada and South America. Here is what the email said in part; "This does not look like the PMTC's Rolls Royce but I really think that I am going to make my reservation". Quite sure you understand the feeling. ;D. Once again a really nice post and thanks for sharing.  ;)


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Off Topic discussions / Re: My Smart Fortwo Pure
« on: 2008.03.29, 22:42:45 »
Got to tell ya "BigWarpGuy" and was curious to know what the heck was "Smart Fortwo" and thought that it could have even one of those "tricks" to get one to click on a link; but, as it turned out you are having to say this now; "I did not realize there would be so many replies to my post. I was just bragging about my little car.  Grin" For sure, I just can't wait to have a go at the "numbers" on a "Spread Sheet" running on OS/2 so that we can have the/some actual figures to show and not rely on other people's assumptions. All in all I think that "Smart Fortwo" is really cool; and, many thanks for the info on it. Now, there are two products on the marketing radar screen - "Cassini", and "Smart Fortwo"   ;D ;) ;D


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Internet / Re: A Browser For OS/2 Warp Connect v.3
« on: 2008.03.29, 17:36:45 »
Re: "But according to the "Warpzilla" home page the Mozilla products are for Warp 4 and Ecomstation (ECS)". Why not simply upgrade to to OS/2 Warp 4, OS/2 Warp 4.52 or eComStation and get it over with?

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Off Topic discussions / Re: My Smart Fortwo Pure
« on: 2008.03.29, 17:31:52 »
Phew...., Guess I had to remember to breathe reading that one; anyway, re: "However, most of these are economic drivers (and my own consciousness) more so then a reaction to the "green" campaign...." Got to tell you dude I will be focusing on the Computerized (Model) for Financial, Economic and Technical Analyses and Reporting (COMFETAR) under OS/2 like a laser beam in these times.  ;)

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Off Topic discussions / Re: My Smart Fortwo Pure
« on: 2008.03.29, 16:06:06 »
Great; but, did you miss the "will there be enough affordable "food" for all when they arrive at the restaurant?  Lips sealed" part in view of the rising world market prices are the demand for rising oil prices continue to influence this; that, along with the cost of air travel.....  :-X  Might be a good thing also if there is an "embedded" version of OS/2 aboard to aid with "navigation".  ;)

 

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