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Setup & Installation / Re: Troubles installing Warp 4
« on: 2008.05.23, 18:15:14 »
2ddan:
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I've never actually managed to install plain Warp 4 on a
partition larger than 4G.
On the second attempt, i thought that it might not be supporting large partitions, so i made one 500 meg partition, only one on the whole hdd. The same - no result.

About new installation floppies - thank you, i'll try them a bit later. No problem if those programs are os/2 programs - Server 4.5 is still installed :)
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OR more simply, make a 2G partition at the start of your 10G drive.
As i said, i tried 2 Gb 1 Gb 500 Mb part's.
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But apparently it's REAL old-fashioned installation fun that
you're after, huh?)
Sure ;)
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You don't specify whether you're trying with Warp 4 to install on a FAT
As I told earlier, installation program doesn't let me. I choose "advanced installation", then it says about small partition (tried empty hdd, 2, 1, 0.5 partitions, unformatted and formatted as FAT with PC-DOS).
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>>> SINCE YOU HAVE 4.5, YOU'RE BETTER OFF USING IT! Has all the function of
Warp 4, but as its name says, is CONVENIENT. There are some gotchas unique to
it, but no real drawbacks for DOS use, and it's far easier to put on larger
drives.
I'd like to, but i have only warp 4 legal copy, i can experiment with others, but i can't use them permanently on work.
And, 4.5 hangs on the boot (registers list is shown on the boot) when i install network card driver. Without it OS/2 works. And in 4.5 Server it doesn't see FAT partitions...I have made these with DOS Fdisk, formatted properly, there's info, etc. But OS/2 doesn't recognize them as FAT partitions (volumes). Otherwise, partitions set up with OS/2 LVM and formatted as FAT with OS/2 aren't recognised by DOS'es.
As I called this situation, "OS/2 and DOS treat 'FAT partition' different ways" :)

2Radek:
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(1) If you can then start with a clean disk (no partitions at all) and do everything from OS/2. Set the disk to LBA mode (you will see the LBA addressable 8 GB of the HD, you will see more later, after installing a better HD driver).
That's what i've tried from the second installation till 39'th.
Warp says that it created partitions, after reboot - volumes&HPFS, after reboot it reports the same "too small partition" about his self-made partitions again. On the right, where it reports size of partitions, it says that it created 20 Gb part. on 10 Gb hdd :) I have tried Large, CHS, LBA each time. No effect.
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(2) I am not sure whether PC DOS FDISK has made something wrong with your MBR. (I am speaking about the "non DOS" pratitions with wrong size.) In the end, PC DOS is not the same as MS DOS so that I cannot exclude it. I had the best experience with DOS 5 (MS DOS) FDISK. Delete all partitions with this FDISK. Ignore senseless partition sizes, the FDISK does not understand well big partitions but it is able to delete them flawelessly Smiley
I tried those PC-dos made partitions with Windows and MS-DOS. Those are correct FAT ones. PC-DOS handles big partitions well.(7.0ver).
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(3) Another problem can be PnP. Disable PnP during installation.
You mean, "Plug and Play" setting in BIOS setup? I disabled it in the very beginning.
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(4) Next problem can be the CD ROM driver. Let us suppose you can read CD (from the installer).
CD media is accesible from MS-DOS; I have tried EVERYTHING :)
I have changed some CD-ROM's either.
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(5) Start the installation, select "Advanced Installation" and you get OS/2 FDISK. Create a 2 GB partition at the start of the disk, make it bootable, save changes and quit. This will cause restart. Next time, you select your partition for installation.
AGAIN. I have chosen advanced installation. It shows me LVM, not fdisk in Warp 4. In Server 4.5 it does the same, but i have no problems with install there! Except network card.
In Warp 4 it says about small partition just after "advanced" choosing. And it reports there wrong sizes. When it creates part's himself, after reboot, he says the same.
6-7: I have np with it in 4.5. In warp 4 i doesn't get to these steps, it gets stuck before.
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Note that the diskette producing program on the Warp 4 CD is a DOS program.
So...?
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herefore, you can put your CD into some machine, prepare 3 diskettes, open a DOS session, and run instcd (or cdinst - I don't know right now) from the root dir of your CD. Note that the machine must have a standard, ATAPI diskette drive, not a USB one or some extra drive, which needs a special driver.
In Warp 4 it doesn't work, I had to write images myself. I am sure that i've wrote correct images - their names are in BAT file instcd.
I have completely standard IBM-compatible machine.
2ddan
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The network driver hang is puzzling
I'm amazed myself :)
I am sure that i have Etherlink III card and that i have chosen this one during installation.
But it just hangs during boot :( Maybe i'll manage to make screenshots later..
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The network driver hang is puzzling
Yes i did. I even laughed after "Cannot remove "No network card as there's protocols associated with it"  :)
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2saborion2:
Thank you for info.

To all:
Hardware is not corrupted - Windows and Linux installed just well. As 4.5 before i added NC :)
I am newbie in OS/2 - it was my second attempt to install it ( i mean 'attempt' generaly; this time i have installed it more than 30 times :-$)
But i have a lot of experience with MS-DOS&Win so i think i'll manage with your help :)



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Setup & Installation / Re: Troubles installing Warp 4
« on: 2008.05.23, 13:04:11 »
Thank you for reply. I began writing my reply at home; but i am at work now, later i'll copypaste it.

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Setup & Installation / Troubles installing Warp 4
« on: 2008.05.22, 22:31:35 »
Hi, All!
Recently I've decided to try, what kind of system is OS/2 :)
Really, i had to install it to run old DOS program in graphics mode.
So, i took package, WARP4 and started installation.
Computer is something like 300 MHz Intel, 10 Gb hdd, CD+FDD, Etherlink III networking card.
I wrote 3 floppies, and that's where weird stuff started. Standard OS/2 image recording program didn't work, so I had to use WinImage instead. I booted up (oh, God, i have fed that computer with series of 3 floppies 50 times that day, w/o exagerating). When installation process started, it said that os/2 need at least 175 Mb and that there's no such a big partitition. But there was 2 FAT32 partititions, both greater than a Gb!
I have erased everithyng with PC-DOS FDISK and made 1 big partitition,(1st attempt) 1 500 Mb p. (2nd attempt). No result. It keeps saying "partitition too small". And it writes on the right that it's 20Gb!!!! And Non-DOS!
I tried different BIOS address settings - CHS, Large, LBA. No result. I've erased all partititions, let him to make himself as he wants. Installer said, that it created all needed partititions. Reboot. And again. There's no at least 175 Mb partitition.
So, i didn't manage to install it.
I've made floppies several times, i've changed FDD, HDD, CD-ROM. No effect.
Then, I took other distriburive, OS/2 Server 4.5 for...
It installed correctly, but, after reboot, it hanged(cpu state list or reg's appeared, with a string like "error in doscall1.dll" or something like this.
I reinstalled it again, with no network adapters (i mean, hardware present, but driver not installed). It worked correctly. 1280*1024. That's a pleasure on a 20" LCD :)
Then I installed network adapter, rebooted and it hanged again the same way :)
(those times I used integrated network adapter). After this, I've installed EtherLinkIII, but the same is happening.
Furthermore, it doesn't see my MS-DOS partititions!!! I have made some with FDISK, formatted them, they're holding info, accesible, etc, but OS/2 doesn't see them.
Partititions made with OS/2 LVM seen in DOS as Non-DOS.
What to do?
I want to install OS/2 server so much :)
And, at last, is it possible to purchase latest os/2 native release? I mean, os/2. not ecs?


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