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As I see it, standing on the sideline looking in, there appears to be no co-ordination of the effort to get a GA out!

The base OS is OS/2 - which works.
Daniela has solved most of the drive problems.
Most common network cards have drivers.
Paul has given us a uniaud driver for the most common audio chipsets.

What is left that is important?  ACPI and WiFi drivers.

So there are two areas to be worked on, ACPI and WiFi, to get a full working OS out of the door.  Where is the hold up?  Who is co-ordinating the effort? If no one then why not?

For both ACPI and WiFi there is a very reasonable amount of material available in the linux community, can much of this be applied to OS/2 like the uniaud project and others that Paul and others have ported for us?  Or has the development of these essential parts degenerated to an ego pumping exercise?  If this is the case then new developers should be found that will work in the project and see it to a successful conclusion.

Until the problems with ACPI and WiFi are solved all other tweeks should be relegated to secondary status to allow a working GA out to customers. 

As it stands OS/2, through the medium of eCS and its long delay, is being relegated to an also-ran hobby OS - which I resent.
Since way back when OS/2 v2.1 arrived I have encouraged others to use OS/2.  At the moment I am prevented from doing so because of the very limited availability of copies on places like eBay.

If Daniela, Paul and a few others can produce a wealth of drivers and programs in the time it has taken to get a part working ACPI layer ready - I must ask what is the problem? and will there ever be a GA of eCS?

The project co-ordinator need to come forward and give a truthful statement about what is going on before ALL credibility is lost, as I lost out on getting OS/2 into a small organisation today because I didn't have enough spare copies of OS/2 available.


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BookWorm,

If you want Warp 4.52, look for Warp 4 CP2.  Make sure you get the two CDs, the first is bootable and the second is the install.  It is possible to just use the second CD and floppy disks to install but the first on its own is useless.

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Setup & Installation / Re: OS/2 Warp 4 instalation crashes
« on: 2009.04.23, 01:26:39 »
Hi Bookworm,

Most of us started out as complete beginners with OS/2.

To solve your upgrade problems go to http://www.os2mt.tk and download OS2MT. It will check what you have and download what you meed to upgrade - including fixpacks, utilities, drivers, network, runtime and odd updates.

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Setup & Installation / Re: OS/2 Warp 4 instalation crashes
« on: 2009.04.22, 00:24:02 »
More information needed:  processor, memory, etc. and the trap screen.

I assume you are booting from disketts and not a bootable CD.  If that is the case there may be a bad diskette causing the problem but it is very hard to advise without all the information.  It would also be helpful if you said what boot screen.

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Hardware / Re: Fixing JFS problems
« on: 2009.04.19, 22:21:53 »
Hi Robert,

Nice to know I'm not alone in having problems :-)

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I was able to recover virtually every file using JResuer once I purchased a license.
That may be the secret but nowhere in the JRescuer 20070208 package is there any documentation let alone any mention of it not working if you don't have a license. I have since downloaded the 20061213 package and there is likewise no indication that a license is necessary for it to work.  Ho hum.

The actual downtime on our MCP2 machine was zero! When they found they couldn't access the disk, I just switched off that disk caddy, pulled the disk and put in the spare, switched the caddy back on and everything was back to normal - less two days edits.
I don't know if this is normal but with this machine we've always been able to this and as it is on 24/7 i'm very thankful it does.
All my attempted recovery took place on a spare machine I'm testing, a quad core AMD with five 1TB disks, four of them in a raid array.  I might even consider a JFS volume on the system disk - if I find it stable enough. 
Thanks for the cache and lazywrite settings, I'll try and see.

 

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Hardware / Re: Fixing JFS problems
« on: 2009.04.18, 21:08:44 »
Hi Doug,

You could be right, the machine is, with the exception of fixpacks, as it was created from ACP2.  As for the bad sector, a new disk is on order and the old one will be replaced as soon as it arrives.

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At least you had a good backup, which is really the only recovery for hardware problems (and other things) on a disk drive.

I couldn't agree more.  Here everything is backed up overnight every two days - maybe we'll do it every night when we get the new AMD quad core up and running to my satisfaction and I can assign a couple of 1TB drives to the task.

From what I read the bootable JFS is only available with eCs, which we don't have, and I'm a long way from being convinced to change over when all we might be interested in are the addons.  Now if they were available separately, that would be a different story ...
 

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Hardware / Re: Fixing JFS problems
« on: 2009.04.18, 16:49:15 »
Thanks everyone. 

Because this is on a production machine I formatted the drive restored from backup then moved everything, with the exception of two 3GB vdi files, over to an HPFS volume.  It turns out there were only two files that had to be updated and we had records of the edits.

Looking at the lack of tools to deal with problems on JFS volumes (work on JRescuer seems to have stopped and DFSEE is not geared up for it, though I may be doing Jan a disservice by saying that as he may have extra JFS problem solving in the works), I think the community is heading for problems (bootable JFS) but time will tell.



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Hardware / Re: Fixing JFS problems
« on: 2009.04.17, 22:27:35 »
Which is more important: file security or speed?

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Hardware / Re: Fixing JFS problems
« on: 2009.04.17, 16:34:23 »
Thanks Criguada and Jep.  Yes I did try JRescuer.  All it produced was a long list of file names which when piped to a text file shows everything that should be there but no way could I get it to copy those files to anywhere else.

It looks as if I'll have to bite the bullet and reformat, at least it only two days worth of edits to re-do.  Then I'll remind myself that JFS is only useful for files larger than 2GB.

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Hardware / Re: Fixing JFS problems
« on: 2009.04.17, 14:34:41 »
Hi Radek,

Thanks for your suggestions, that was the first thing I tried.  I know exactly what sector, thanks to DFSEE, but it appears there is no way of getting anything from that volume unless it can be mounted.  At least with HPFS you stand a very good chance of recovering most, if not all, of what is on the volume.

I can't help wondering what is going to happen when some ones boot volume clags out and there are no tools to fix it.  Yes I know there is DFSEE and Jan has done a wonderful job on it... but.

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Hardware / Fixing JFS problems
« on: 2009.04.17, 11:01:04 »
Does anyone know a reliable way of fixing problems with a JFS volume?

I have a disk, formatted JFS, that has developed a bad sector.  It will not mount and chkdsk /f aborts at the disk size stage.

If necessary I will just reformat and loose the few files since the last backup.

Even though I use only OS/2 I would hope there is something for recovering JFS volumes out there especially since there is the much touted bootable JFS for eCs.

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Hardware / Re: Exceptions
« on: 2009.04.17, 10:39:20 »
Hi Phil,

I don't know much about eCs, don't have it here, but with OS/2 a trap 0005 is a BOUND RANGE EXCEEDED - contact software support.

The question is, have you added any programs or changed anything that might cause the trap, also have you tried rebootong and if so what was the result?

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Tommy, I think you may be right in thinking there is a fault on the motherboard or it nay just be the way the IDE controller sees the hard disk.  The older motherboards had various ways of setting up hard disks (LBA, large, etc.).  If there is a difference between the two motherboards then you have problems because this motherboard can not see the drive layout.

If this is the case then you will have to FDISK and Format the drive on that motherboard, then the simple expedient of ziping up your install from a drive that works, burning it to CD and then unziping it on to the prepared drive (requires a third floppy disk with unzip and system files on it. You boot to a command prompt, swap to the third disk and use unzip).

Just remember, there comes a time when it is wise to cut your losses and give up trying to get it to work.  I do know the frustration of something not working when it should. A friend brought in his computer because it had stopped working, could I fix it? I spent three weeks, on and off, on it only to tell him in the end it would not work as he had overheated it and most of the problems were intermittent.

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Tommy, the simple thing to try is to go to a command prompt by booting from your floppies. this should give you an A:> prompt.  Then with the first (bootable) floppy in the drive type SYSINSTX C: followed by hitting enter.  This will put the necessary boot information on your hard disk FAT partition.

If it still does not boot after that then I think you will have to through a fresh install unless Robert has any other ideas.

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Sorry Robert.  the install disks are created with LOADDSKF because they are DOS readable.  The other disks are created with  XDFCOPY!


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